flame angel?

Shane52 · 02/11/2014, 05:05 PM

Ive seen flame angels in reef aquariums, but Ive read that they are not reef safe? Any truth to this? I have a tank that has lps, sps, zoas, zenia, and a couple of clams.

HiImSean · 02/11/2014, 05:07 PM

Every fish is different and you will always run a risk of it nipping or completely eating corals. If you search you will find dozens of threads with peoples flame angel eating corals and dozens where they are model citizens.

plowro8 · 02/11/2014, 05:07 PM

Some will aggressively nip at corals and some don't at all. They are very strange in that regard. IME they are susceptible to disease, though.

downbeach · 02/11/2014, 05:09 PM

They are one of my favorite fish, and had them in a FOWLR tank, but when I started adding corals I found that the four I tried during that time had/developed a taste for something in my tank, the last one was clam mantle. So, it's a crap shoot at best.

redwhiteandblue · 02/11/2014, 05:09 PM

mine goes a long time without messing with anything, but about once a month or two, i ll catch him doing some pruning. if you have concerns with them, i recommend a fish with a better track record. very unpredictable.

Shane52 · 02/11/2014, 05:12 PM

any angels that dont nip or fish quite this beautiful?

downbeach · 02/11/2014, 06:18 PM

Take a look at the Genicanthus Genus.

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...hcs3/index.php

r-balljunkie · 02/11/2014, 08:35 PM

i've kept a flame for some time, no problem.

not exactly a model citizen, likes to chase other fish around, but leaves all the corals alone.

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aquaenthusiast · 02/11/2014, 11:49 PM

search for the flame angel thread here on reefcentral, tons of info, there are also, I think 4 different kinds of flame angels that live in different regions , so it can be difficult to get a model citizen sometimes

whosurcaddie · 02/12/2014, 12:04 AM

Mine doesn't touch any of my corals but picks at the rock nonstop. Like others have said its a crap shoot.

Reefer54 · 02/12/2014, 12:06 AM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1661153

titled: the angel thread to end all angel threads. its a good read.

Reefer54 · 02/12/2014, 12:12 AM

and for what its worth, i got lucky when i brought home my coral beauty. a great addition that leaves everything alone except brine and pellet

robotman · 02/12/2014, 01:27 AM

my flame is a model citizen.

Fish_Freek · 02/12/2014, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robotman

my flame is a model citizen.

Had mine about a year in my reef with softies, LPS and SPS and no problem nipping at corals. Chasing smaller fish is another subject....personally, not sure id have a reef tank without an angel in it....love'em!!

slgcmg · 02/12/2014, 11:28 AM

As far as other angels, I have had good luck with my coral beauty. He's a Fiji one so he is much more colorful then the traditional purple you see

thegrun · 02/12/2014, 11:47 AM

I just lost mine a few of months ago (it went carpet surfing) that had been a model citizen for five years. I would consider them at best a 50% chance of being reef safe.

Hoopz87 · 02/12/2014, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whosurcaddie

Mine doesn't touch any of my corals but picks at the rock nonstop. Like others have said its a crap shoot.

Agreed Mine does the exact same never touched corals n such tho.

TrainedToReef · 02/12/2014, 04:47 PM

Beautiful fish wish I could have one thousands of dollars in corals or one fish that could destroy them think i won't take a chance sadly

reefer roman · 02/12/2014, 11:11 PM

I had one for over a year with no problems. Kept him well fed and didn't bother a thing.

FernandoReef · 02/12/2014, 11:18 PM

I have kept a flame for a long time and never had a problem.

02/11/2014, 05:05 PM	#1
Shane52 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 71	flame angel? Ive seen flame angels in reef aquariums, but Ive read that they are not reef safe? Any truth to this? I have a tank that has lps, sps, zoas, zenia, and a couple of clams.

02/11/2014, 05:09 PM	#5
redwhiteandblue Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 259	mine goes a long time without messing with anything, but about once a month or two, i ll catch him doing some pruning. if you have concerns with them, i recommend a fish with a better track record. very unpredictable. __________________ 180 mixed reef since 2011....work in progress 55 in wall Fowlr

02/11/2014, 08:35 PM	#8
r-balljunkie Registered Reefer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Doha, Qatar Posts: 2,059	i've kept a flame for some time, no problem. not exactly a model citizen, likes to chase other fish around, but leaves all the corals alone. c __________________ ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ 58G Oceanic Illuminata rimless with GH overflow , Mazarra LED x 3, Tunze 6095 x 2, Eheim 1260, BM-180 skimmer, TLF reactors, Apex LT .

02/12/2014, 12:06 AM	#11
Reefer54 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Avon Posts: 1,087	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1661153 titled: the angel thread to end all angel threads. its a good read. __________________ R54 Current Tank Info: 36 x 36 x 25 Cube, mixed reef, A360WE x 3, A350N x 1, 40GB sump, RDSB, Remote LR Cryptic, 2 WP-40's, ummm....

02/12/2014, 12:12 AM	#12
Reefer54 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Avon Posts: 1,087	and for what its worth, i got lucky when i brought home my coral beauty. a great addition that leaves everything alone except brine and pellet __________________ R54 Current Tank Info: 36 x 36 x 25 Cube, mixed reef, A360WE x 3, A350N x 1, 40GB sump, RDSB, Remote LR Cryptic, 2 WP-40's, ummm....

02/11/2014, 05:07 PM	#2
HiImSean Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Acworth, GA Posts: 834	Every fish is different and you will always run a risk of it nipping or completely eating corals. If you search you will find dozens of threads with peoples flame angel eating corals and dozens where they are model citizens.

02/11/2014, 05:07 PM	#3
plowro8 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 88	Some will aggressively nip at corals and some don't at all. They are very strange in that regard. IME they are susceptible to disease, though.

02/11/2014, 05:09 PM	#4
downbeach Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smyrna, Delaware Posts: 3,767	They are one of my favorite fish, and had them in a FOWLR tank, but when I started adding corals I found that the four I tried during that time had/developed a taste for something in my tank, the last one was clam mantle. So, it's a crap shoot at best.

02/11/2014, 05:12 PM	#6
Shane52 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 71	any angels that dont nip or fish quite this beautiful?

02/11/2014, 06:18 PM	#7
downbeach Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Smyrna, Delaware Posts: 3,767	Take a look at the Genicanthus Genus. http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...hcs3/index.php

02/11/2014, 11:49 PM	#9
aquaenthusiast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 416	search for the flame angel thread here on reefcentral, tons of info, there are also, I think 4 different kinds of flame angels that live in different regions , so it can be difficult to get a model citizen sometimes

02/12/2014, 12:04 AM	#10
whosurcaddie Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,354	Mine doesn't touch any of my corals but picks at the rock nonstop. Like others have said its a crap shoot.

02/12/2014, 01:27 AM	#13
robotman Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 737	my flame is a model citizen. __________________ 55 gal reef 2 BO clowns 1 Hippo Tang 1 Foxface 1 Flame Angel 1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby 1 Hi fin Goby 2 Benghai Cardinal 2 mated Mandarin Dragon net mostly softies and lps, some sps reefing since 5

02/12/2014, 11:28 AM	#15
slgcmg Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 521	As far as other angels, I have had good luck with my coral beauty. He's a Fiji one so he is much more colorful then the traditional purple you see __________________ 180g reef 40g sump 250# LR 10 54w T5. 2 Nasos, sailfin, regal tang, coral beauty, powder blue, yellow tang, melanarus wrasse, 2 chromis, foxface, clownfish, LPS, various shrimps

02/12/2014, 11:47 AM	#16
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	I just lost mine a few of months ago (it went carpet surfing) that had been a model citizen for five years. I would consider them at best a 50% chance of being reef safe.

02/12/2014, 04:47 PM	#18
TrainedToReef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 31	Beautiful fish wish I could have one thousands of dollars in corals or one fish that could destroy them think i won't take a chance sadly

02/12/2014, 11:11 PM	#19
reefer roman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Rapids,IA Posts: 198	I had one for over a year with no problems. Kept him well fed and didn't bother a thing.

02/12/2014, 11:18 PM	#20
FernandoReef Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 53	I have kept a flame for a long time and never had a problem.