Acropower - What are you dosing?

[gb530]

Just picked up some AcroPower and excited to give it a try. Anyone else using it with good results? What volume are you dosing? When are you dosing (night/day)? Does it matter when? How often?

It says on the bottle to do 5ml, per 25 gallons, per week.

My plan...
I want to dose everyday. My water volume is about 100 gallons. Thinking of dosing like 3ml per day (based of what bottle says) but am curious to what others are trying.

[Reefer54]

I also have right around 100 (108 when i filled the tanks) gallons of volume. i very painstakingly used an airline flow regulator to get it to drip 1 drip per hour, giving me roughly 2.4 ml per day. I have only been using it this way for 8 days, so i am curious myself.

[TotallyAddicted]

The dose says 5ml/25 gallons AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. Very vague instructions. So far in about 50 gallons of water (40b/20l) I'm dosing Every 3 days 5ml but have only had for 2 weeks now and I run an ulns

[gb530]

Originally Posted by Reefer54

I also have right around 100 (108 when i filled the tanks) gallons of volume. i very painstakingly used an airline flow regulator to get it to drip 1 drip per hour, giving me roughly 2.4 ml per day. I have only been using it this way for 8 days, so i am curious myself.

I like the drip idea. I have an auto doser and plan to hook it up eventually but wanted to try it out first with just one dose per day. See any change in the 8 days? They claim to notice a difference within days!

[TotallyAddicted]

Meh, not really here, but many of my SPS are frags and Im not sure how much you will see in a recovering coral. I'm gonna give it a month b4 prob. Plus I found out the rodi water I have been buying was 35ppm. Needless to say I bought a RODI system too

[gb530]

anyone else?

[Reefer54]

Originally Posted by gb530

I like the drip idea. I have an auto doser and plan to hook it up eventually but wanted to try it out first with just one dose per day. See any change in the 8 days? They claim to notice a difference within days!

The only issue i have not figured entirely is that the bottle says to shake prior to use, so the drip method may not prove to be ideal, just less work for me, but essentially non effective so i may as well not be doing it.....we'll see.

results after day 8 going into day 9, it would be hard to say.....but i wasnt expecting miracles. Though i do hope for them in this hobby sometimes, they never come true.

The only coral i can say that i have seen dramatically change in the past 8 days is a pavona that was severly bleached of all color less the green mouths. It had lost probably 95% of its color pigmentation. Prior to adding AA, i would say over a month period, i was able to regain about 10% of the color, and in the last 8 days, That 10% is now conservatively 60% color regained....a very nice pink\brown with neon mouths. The bleaching was entirely my fault. i put it in high light, low flow for like 3 days and I was sure i had lost it.....then upon realising what i had done, moved it to low light, high flow and it took a while, but seems to be on the track to making a full recovery. Did the AA help....there is no way to say for certain, but i am sure they did not hurt. But in all honesty, i think that water quality is the real winner here....AA will be a time proven test.

[HiImSean]

Here's a lot of good info on dosing and a few documented results. I've been meaning to pick a bottle up.

(change the ***s to the r 2 r address)

[TotallyAddicted]

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[HiImSean]

change the **s to "reef 2 reef" with no spaces

[djkms]

I ordered Acropower myself. I read the R-2R thread and there is a lot of praise in it. Figured its worth a shot. Pretty excited to get it to be honest

[TotallyAddicted]

Got it sorry

[gb530]

Originally Posted by Reefer54

The only issue i have not figured entirely is that the bottle says to shake prior to use, so the drip method may not prove to be ideal, just less work for me, but essentially non effective so i may as well not be doing it.....we'll see.

Good point! I didn't even think about that!

[gb530]

Originally Posted by HiImSean

Here's a lot of good info on dosing and a few documented results. I've been meaning to pick a bottle up.

(change the ***s to the r 2 r address)

Thanks for sharing this!

[gb530]

Originally Posted by djkms

I ordered Acropower myself. I read the R-2R thread and there is a lot of praise in it. Figured its worth a shot. Pretty excited to get it to be honest

Cool! Lets us know how it works out for you

[animalkingdom]

Originally Posted by TotallyAddicted

The dose says 5ml/25 gallons AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. Very vague instructions. So far in about 50 gallons of water (40b/20l) I'm dosing Every 3 days 5ml but have only had for 2 weeks now and I run an ulns

I like vague instruction on a product...it means the makers know their stuff. Every reef tank is different so giving a specific amount to use doesn't make much sense. Play around with it and find what is good for your tank. The amount on the bottle gives you some idea where to start.

Products that tell you specific dosing instruction should be limited to tank treatments where concentration is key. An example would be algaefix.

Additives such as calcium, alk, mag, iodine, amino acids are all tank dependent

[gb530]

Originally Posted by animalkingdom

I like vague instruction on a product...it means the makers know their stuff. Every reef tank is different so giving a specific amount to use doesn't make much sense. Play around with it and find what is good for your tank. The amount on the bottle gives you some idea where to start.

Products that tell you specific dosing instruction should be limited to tank treatments where concentration is key. An example would be algaefix.

Additives such as calcium, alk, mag, iodine, amino acids are all tank dependent

True. However, Ca, alk, mag, and iodine can be tested, thus you know how much to dose per tank requirements. How can you tell what level of amino acids your corals need? As of right now, theres no way I can tell..... Whatever TLF's puts on the back, I will be dosing, not a ml over or below because I have no way of testing it.

[d2mini]

20ml, twice per week.

[gb530]

Originally Posted by d2mini

20ml, twice per week.

Good to know... I was actually looking through your AquaticLog and noticed you were dosing Acropower. Literally once I saw that, I ordered a bottle. If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me, lol

[animalkingdom]

Originally Posted by gb530

True. However, Ca, alk, mag, and iodine can be tested, thus you know how much to dose per tank requirements. How can you tell what level of amino acids your corals need? As of right now, theres no way I can tell..... Whatever TLF's puts on the back, I will be dosing, not a ml over or below because I have no way of testing it.

Using that logic you shouldn't be dosing it. Its the right amount because they say it is...hmmm...that is not a strong argument.

it is not about x milligrams per y liters here...this is not a medication or treatment.

to answer your question how can you tell how much amino acids your corals need...well...technically due the fact that either they or their symbiotic zooxanthellae make all 20 of the essential amino acids they 'need' none. More realistically go by your coloration and algae. Pale corals = maybe use a bit more. Brown corals and nuisance algae...maybe use a bit less

back to the heart of my previous post...start where the bottle recommends and go from there. if you feel your tank could benefit from adding more after trying the recommended dose bump it up. if it seems like your tank could benefit from less...adjust to suit your tank and what works best for it

[gb530]

Originally Posted by animalkingdom

Using that logic you shouldn't be dosing it. Its the right amount because they say it is...hmmm...that is not a strong argument.

it is not about x milligrams per y liters here...this is not a medication or treatment.

to answer your question how can you tell how much amino acids your corals need...well...technically due the fact that either they or their symbiotic zooxanthellae make all 20 of the essential amino acids they 'need' none. More realistically go by your coloration and algae. Pale corals = maybe use a bit more. Brown corals and nuisance algae...maybe use a bit less

back to the heart of my previous post...start where the bottle recommends and go from there. if you feel your tank could benefit from adding more after trying the recommended dose bump it up. if it seems like your tank could benefit from less...adjust to suit your tank and what works best for it

I can agree to disagree. Corals turning brown or algae growing is most likely not going to be due to dosing Acropower. Personally, I wont dose far from what the bottle says as there is no real way of testing.

[ThreeMoneyJ]

I've been dosing it for a month or so now. I started out with 1/2 the recommended dose and kept my eyes on any unwanted algae growth. I'm up to 1.25x the recommended dose. I will slowly up the dose until I see any sort of decline in my tank or I reach 2x the dosage. All of my corals look great, but they never looked bad to begin with. I've noticed that my Orange Setosa which has basically never grown for me and never looked super has colored up very well and has started to grow since I started dosing.

[Bigcefa]

Originally Posted by animalkingdom

Using that logic you shouldn't be dosing it. Its the right amount because they say it is...hmmm...that is not a strong argument.

it is not about x milligrams per y liters here...this is not a medication or treatment.

to answer your question how can you tell how much amino acids your corals need...well...technically due the fact that either they or their symbiotic zooxanthellae make all 20 of the essential amino acids they 'need' none. More realistically go by your coloration and algae. Pale corals = maybe use a bit more. Brown corals and nuisance algae...maybe use a bit less

back to the heart of my previous post...start where the bottle recommends and go from there. if you feel your tank could benefit from adding more after trying the recommended dose bump it up. if it seems like your tank could benefit from less...adjust to suit your tank and what works best for it

Corals can not create all the essential aminos themselves. And different coral species can produce and synthesize different ones here's a good read
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2014/3/corals.

[Reefer54]

Originally Posted by Reefer54

The only issue i have not figured entirely is that the bottle says to shake prior to use, so the drip method may not prove to be ideal, just less work for me, but essentially non effective so i may as well not be doing it.....we'll see.

results after day 8 going into day 9, it would be hard to say.....but i wasnt expecting miracles. Though i do hope for them in this hobby sometimes, they never come true.

The only coral i can say that i have seen dramatically change in the past 8 days is a pavona that was severly bleached of all color less the green mouths. It had lost probably 95% of its color pigmentation. Prior to adding AA, i would say over a month period, i was able to regain about 10% of the color, and in the last 8 days, That 10% is now conservatively 60% color regained....a very nice pink\brown with neon mouths. The bleaching was entirely my fault. i put it in high light, low flow for like 3 days and I was sure i had lost it.....then upon realising what i had done, moved it to low light, high flow and it took a while, but seems to be on the track to making a full recovery. Did the AA help....there is no way to say for certain, but i am sure they did not hurt. But in all honesty, i think that water quality is the real winner here....AA will be a time proven test.

day 24, and i can say the spoken of coral above has 100% recovered ,color has deepened adn growth has reincurred. I did not see any noticable change from the addition of acropower in the past 3 weeks, so for the last week, i double dosed until a very small dino outbreak formed. Back to the recommended dosage and dinos went away as ecpected. As for other corals, i can say i have not noticed any significant difference in color or growth..... I picked up a Monti cap that is pale, and will be monitoring it's reclaim of color and growth.

This was just an update, i have no complaints nor praise yet. Anyone else, please update

[kostaskappa]

50g reef dosing 2ml per day just before lights go out. Doing this for a month now and noticed big coloration change in my green formosa and some hystrix. Very good product!