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06/27/2014, 02:37 PM
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QT necessary if LFS does it?
My LFS quarantines every livestock with copper for a few days and then puts them in the display tanks. Do I still need to QT them if I buy them from
1) His DT? 2) Directly from his QT Tank? Thanks |
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06/27/2014, 02:59 PM
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I qt new purchases for 8 weeks.
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Brandon I'm not saying let's get rid of all the stupid people.* I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out. Current Tank Info: 150g DT plumbed to an 80g frag tank and 220g sump in the basement. ~6-MP40s ~ 12 ATI powered t5s ~ Reefbrites and Radions supplementing ~ Custom GEO Skimmer ~ GEO CA Reactor 6x24~ Iwaki 70 Return ~ |
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06/27/2014, 03:05 PM
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Moved On
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Putting fish in copper for a few days does nothing. The fish would have to be isolated, and treated with copper for 30 days at therapeutic levels to eliminate ich/marine velvet. But then there are other diseases (i.e. flukes, brook) that copper doesn't even treat.
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06/27/2014, 03:21 PM
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YES!
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I'll try to be nice if you try to be smarter! I can't help that I grow older, but you can't make me grow up! Current Tank Info: 120 mixed reef with 40b sump, RO 150 skimmer, AI Sol Blue x 2, and a 60g Frag Tank with 100g rubbermaid sump. 2 x Kessil A360w lights, BM curve 5 skimmer |
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06/27/2014, 03:39 PM
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Dr. Reef at ur service
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in short yes you QT not LFS
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Water Quality: NO3 0,Phos 0,Cal 440,Alk 7.5,Mag 1300 "Reef Fast, You Crash, Reef Slow, You Pass" Mike's Reef 3:16 Current Tank Info: 350g DT,95g sump, 50g Frag tank, 4800gph return 4x Sea swirls. 6x AI Vega Color. 200# Pukani rock, dual recirculating skimmer, Biopellet, GFO Carbon rx's, Cal rx. Closed loop. 1.5hp chiller, genesis renew. Apex & RKE |
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06/27/2014, 03:49 PM
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Will the LFS pay for you to replace everything that dies if something new that comes in destroys everything else? If not, I would setup a QT
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06/27/2014, 04:35 PM
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Trust no one but yourself! Always QT yourself.
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06/27/2014, 06:11 PM
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No LFS uses copper at the therapeutic level to kill ich! They usually only keep it at 0.1-0.15ppm, enough to prevent velvet. Cryptocaryon irritans needs at least 0.35ppm to work.
In addition, a fish has to undergo cupramine treatment for 30 days to eliminate ich. LFS constantly introduces new fish, which come with new ich, so the clock keeps on resetting. The bottomline is, a proper quarantine protocol (4 weeks of cupramine/prazipro treatment followed by 2 weeks of observation) can only be done by hobbyists themselves.
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375g Envision FOWLR + 125g sump 40g Reef Current Tank Info: 375g FOWLR, 40g Reef |
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