Mixing large Angels?

[johnhenry1]

So I have a 300 gallon fowlr. I currently have a 6.5 to 7 inch emperor and was wondering what Angels I could put with him. He is very peaceful for an emperor, and doesn't bother any fish including my 4 inch flagfin. Anyways, I orginally wanted to get a French angel and queen angel with him but learned the French angel would get too big and the queen angel would eventually challenge the emperor. So, from this list of angels, are there any that could work with my emperor?
Annularis angel
Blueface angel
Majestic angel
Regal angel
I would probably choose two but i don't know which two would work the best? Do you guys who have mixed angelfish like these before have any advice? Thanks.

Here's a pic of the emperor

[sc50964]

Three out of the four choices are in the same genus, which could be a problem despite your tank size. Only the regal isn't, but its a finicky fish and could be hard to establish when they are at least two angels in the tank already.

[johnhenry1]

Could the same genus Angels work if the emperor is much bigger. Would the emperor ignore the majestic or bluefae if I get them smaller?

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by johnhenry1

Could the same genus Angels work if the emperor is much bigger. Would the emperor ignore the majestic or bluefae if I get them smaller?

It's a gamble. Majestic is the more mellow Pomacanthus of the three. Emperor and blue face are about the same. It's hard to say how the emp is gonna respond.

[ovakil]

What if introduced at same time as Juveniles ?
Looking at getting an emporer in the new year.
But undecided what others.

[johnhenry1]

Is the annularis on the same level as the emperor and blueface also?

[jjk_reef00]

If you are going to do it I'd try a juvi 3". Your emp will be less likely to see the new fish as a threat. Introducing another mature angel that is the same size may be asking for trouble.

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by johnhenry1

Is the annularis on the same level as the emperor and blueface also?

I think so. Same as French and Koran.

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by ovakil

What if introduced at same time as Juveniles ?
Looking at getting an emporer in the new year.
But undecided what others.

IME, that should work for a while. What's your tank size?

[johnhenry1]

Originally Posted by jjk_reef00

If you are going to do it I'd try a juvi 3". Your emp will be less likely to see the new fish as a threat. Introducing another mature angel that is the same size may be asking for trouble.

Ok, my favorite is probably the blue face, then the majestic. Would a 3 inch blue face and a 3 inch majestic have a chance of working? If the emperor becomes aggressive to them, I can take them to my Lfs.

[jjk_reef00]

Originally Posted by johnhenry1

Ok, my favorite is probably the blue face, then the majestic. Would a 3 inch blue face and a 3 inch majestic have a chance of working? If the emperor becomes aggressive to them, I can take them to my Lfs.

Not sure, the two 3 inch fish may fight. Things are hard to predict with large angels.

[PhantomAce]

What about an Asfur?

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by PhantomAce

What about an Asfur?

It's a little better since its body shape is different but it's still in the same genus so it's still a gamble.

[sc50964]

The best way that I've found to "mix" large Angels successfully is to have different genus, colors, and sizes. The sequence of introduction is also highly important. Adult Emperor angel is unfortunately an usual choice for angel keepers to introduce as the very last angel.

[alton]

The only fish I have found to be safe with a large emperor is a juvenile emperor. I know it sounds crazy but a lot of people have done it

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by alton

The only fish I have found to be safe with a large emperor is a juvenile emperor. I know it sounds crazy but a lot of people have done it

That's interesting. I wonder what will happen when the juvi grows up and now you have two adult Emps.

[dominic]

I have these in a 400 all get along send me a email address I will send a video cant upload it here for some reason

[alton]

here is one of the links
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ator+angelfish

[pinnatus]

Originally Posted by sc50964

That's interesting. I wonder what will happen when the juvi grows up and now you have two adult Emps.

This:

[sc50964]

He has an established 7" adult emp in the tank already. Of course risk of having compatibility problem would reduce given an 8' long tank. But we should be careful with giving out advice when we know very little about his exp, DT setup, and QT setup.

[johnhenry1]

The emperor doesn't bother my 4 inch flagfin, so maybe if I removed the emperor from the main tank for a week and added the other fish, blue face and majestic, and then put the emperor back in that would help with aggression. It sounds to me like it's doable, I probably shouldn't have added the emperor first though. How do you all think a larger blue face maybe 8 or 9 inches would go with an emperor? Is it better that I leave the emperor as the biggest fish in the tank?

[dominic]

I have a emp, queen ,blueline, majestic , blueface ,all big , the emp is the most docile of them all the blueface is the most aggressive.
if someone can post I have a nice 45 second video I can show you . I added the emp and blueface together

[sc50964]

Originally Posted by johnhenry1

The emperor doesn't bother my 4 inch flagfin, so maybe if I removed the emperor from the main tank for a week and added the other fish, blue face and majestic, and then put the emperor back in that would help with aggression. It sounds to me like it's doable, I probably shouldn't have added the emperor first though. How do you all think a larger blue face maybe 8 or 9 inches would go with an emperor? Is it better that I leave the emperor as the biggest fish in the tank?

I have six different genus of adult large angels in my 180g. Emp is one of them and it was in there first. It's a dominant fish and it would only chase off others to get space but never to fight over the past 3-4 yrs. if you want to mix two from the same genus, you will have a better chance to remove the emp for three weeks and redo the aquascape just to be safe. Do you have a QT to keep the emp comfortable for an extended period of time? As to size when it comes to mixing Pomacanthus, I've heard different stories, some say mixing large and small would work and some say mixing the same sizes at the same time would work, but every success story seems to be highly dependent on the personality of the fish. It's a gamble IMO.

[dominic]

another shot

[davidfrances]

Including the Emperor, in my 250DD I have:
Majestic Angel
Bluering Angel
Passer Angel
Eibli Angel
Coral Beauty Angel

and some other fish