70G Reef stock idea

MuscleFish · 02/12/2015, 09:21 AM

Hi,

Can somebody take a look on my stock idea for 70G tank (35,5x23,5x18) + 30G sump from Cadlights that I plan to buy (I hope)...

x1 Kole Tang
x4 Green Chromis
x2 Ocellaris Clownfish
x2 Firefish Goby
x1 Kauderns Cardinal
x1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse
x2 Green Mandarin (once established)
+shrimps, crabs.

I won't be overstocked? Is there any better fish/fishes to add?

Thanks

Clownfish Chris · 02/12/2015, 09:42 AM

I wouldn't add the tang to anything less than 100gal. The Mandarins will need to be a mated pair and you will need a healthy pod population with a fuge. Not sure but if I remember correctly, the wrasse will compete with the mandarins for pods.

MuscleFish · 02/12/2015, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clownfish Chris

I wouldn't add the tang to anything less than 100gal. The Mandarins will need to be a mated pair and you will need a healthy pod population with a fuge. Not sure but if I remember correctly, the wrasse will compete with the mandarins for pods.

Thanks

But Kole Tang is small, 4 inches.
I'll add the mandarins when I'll have a big party ds population.

But anyway, my tank won't be overstocked?

Thanks

MuscleFish · 02/12/2015, 02:13 PM

How about:

x2 Kole Tang
x2 Ocellaris Clownfish
x2 Firefish Goby
x1 Kauderns Cardinal
x1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse
x2 Coral Beauty Angelfish
x2 Dottyback

Thanks

MondoBongo · 02/12/2015, 02:22 PM

i would drop the kole, and advise only one mandarin.

i've kept both, and a 3' tank is small for any tang, even one of the smaller species like a kole.

as far as the pair of mandy, realistically you're looking at 70 gallons of tank PER mandy. keeping a pair in that 70 would be roughly analogous to keeping a single specimen in a 35 gallon, which is not adequate.

gone fishin · 02/12/2015, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuscleFish

Hi,

Can somebody take a look on my stock idea for 70G tank (35,5x23,5x18) + 30G sump from Cadlights that I plan to buy (I hope)...

x1 Kole Tang I would not
x4 Green Chromis Will likely end up as one or two
x2 Ocellaris Clownfish
x2 Firefish GobyUnless a mated pair will be one eventually
x1 Kauderns Cardinal
x1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse
x2 Green Mandarin (once established)would do one only without any other pod eaters after at least a year
+shrimps, crabs.

I won't be overstocked? Is there any better fish/fishes to add?

Thanks

There is a great thread up at the top of the forum check here before you buy. Snorvich will give you some expert advice. Good luck

MuscleFish · 02/12/2015, 06:48 PM

Thanks!

How about:
x2 Coral Beauty Angelfish
x2 Dottyback

I really cannot keep a Tang?

MondoBongo · 02/12/2015, 07:08 PM

I had my kole in a 4ft and he used every inch. Tangs like swimming length, even the bristletooths.

Unfortunately I haven't kept coral beauties or dottybacks, so I'm not very familiar with their care, but I'm sure someone else here will be.

jrr98002 · 02/12/2015, 07:18 PM

Nix the tang, only one mandarin and only if you have an established fuge because your wrasse will compete with it for pods. Also as mentioned above the chromis tend to off each other.

MuscleFish · 03/21/2015, 06:08 PM

How about Yellow and Blue Tangs in 60x20x20 tank?

Moray26 · 03/21/2015, 10:49 PM

Kole tang are fine in a 4 foot tank. Anything less Id avoid. For me I have a blue tang in my 75... Couldn't resist it. Love the fish. But figure if I don't upgrade soon I'll have to give it away to a bigger tank due to its adult size. But for now I can enjoy it. Blue or yellow won't work in a 3ft. Idk go with one mandrain goby as opposed to 2 since it will be very hard to have a large pod population. Unless you can get them on frozen food. For the Angels. Id get at least 2 different ones. Make sure you add them at the exact same time for better success. I had a flame and coral beauty in mine and worked out well. Good luck!

MuscleFish · 03/23/2015, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moray26

Kole tang are fine in a 4 foot tank. Anything less Id avoid. For me I have a blue tang in my 75... Couldn't resist it. Love the fish. But figure if I don't upgrade soon I'll have to give it away to a bigger tank due to its adult size. But for now I can enjoy it. Blue or yellow won't work in a 3ft. Idk go with one mandrain goby as opposed to 2 since it will be very hard to have a large pod population. Unless you can get them on frozen food. For the Angels. Id get at least 2 different ones. Make sure you add them at the exact same time for better success. I had a flame and coral beauty in mine and worked out well. Good luck!

Thanks! But it'll be a 6ft 104G tank

As Tangs swim horizontally, it must be fine for blue and yellow, I think.

scooter31707 · 03/23/2015, 10:19 AM

ok. then that will be fine, but in alot of cases many hobbyists said they are going to upgrade when the fish gets bigger. Most cases when that time comes, something else comes up that you had to spend the money on and now they cannot upgrade, so they are stuck with a fish that is stressed and could cause harm to your tank, ie ich. All I am saying is, if you know you are able to upgrade with no problems or challenges in the way go ahead, if not maybe rethink your stocklist.

Moray26 · 03/23/2015, 01:39 PM

Id go with a yellow tang for long term in that tank then

Blue may be possible. It would need to be wide.

MuscleFish · 03/24/2015, 04:48 PM

Thanks friends!

02/12/2015, 09:21 AM	#1
MuscleFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 84	70G Reef stock idea Hi, Can somebody take a look on my stock idea for 70G tank (35,5x23,5x18) + 30G sump from Cadlights that I plan to buy (I hope)... x1 Kole Tang x4 Green Chromis x2 Ocellaris Clownfish x2 Firefish Goby x1 Kauderns Cardinal x1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse x2 Green Mandarin (once established) +shrimps, crabs. I won't be overstocked? Is there any better fish/fishes to add? Thanks

02/12/2015, 02:22 PM	#5
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	i would drop the kole, and advise only one mandarin. i've kept both, and a 3' tank is small for any tang, even one of the smaller species like a kole. as far as the pair of mandy, realistically you're looking at 70 gallons of tank PER mandy. keeping a pair in that 70 would be roughly analogous to keeping a single specimen in a 35 gallon, which is not adequate. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

02/12/2015, 07:08 PM	#8
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	I had my kole in a 4ft and he used every inch. Tangs like swimming length, even the bristletooths. Unfortunately I haven't kept coral beauties or dottybacks, so I'm not very familiar with their care, but I'm sure someone else here will be. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

02/12/2015, 09:42 AM	#2
Clownfish Chris Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 179	I wouldn't add the tang to anything less than 100gal. The Mandarins will need to be a mated pair and you will need a healthy pod population with a fuge. Not sure but if I remember correctly, the wrasse will compete with the mandarins for pods.

02/12/2015, 02:13 PM	#4
MuscleFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 84	How about: x2 Kole Tang x2 Ocellaris Clownfish x2 Firefish Goby x1 Kauderns Cardinal x1 Longfin Fairy Wrasse x2 Coral Beauty Angelfish x2 Dottyback Thanks

02/12/2015, 06:48 PM	#7
MuscleFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 84	Thanks! How about: x2 Coral Beauty Angelfish x2 Dottyback I really cannot keep a Tang?

02/12/2015, 07:18 PM	#9
jrr98002 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Little Rock Posts: 235	Nix the tang, only one mandarin and only if you have an established fuge because your wrasse will compete with it for pods. Also as mentioned above the chromis tend to off each other.

03/21/2015, 06:08 PM	#10
MuscleFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 84	How about Yellow and Blue Tangs in 60x20x20 tank?

03/21/2015, 10:49 PM	#11
Moray26 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 153	Kole tang are fine in a 4 foot tank. Anything less Id avoid. For me I have a blue tang in my 75... Couldn't resist it. Love the fish. But figure if I don't upgrade soon I'll have to give it away to a bigger tank due to its adult size. But for now I can enjoy it. Blue or yellow won't work in a 3ft. Idk go with one mandrain goby as opposed to 2 since it will be very hard to have a large pod population. Unless you can get them on frozen food. For the Angels. Id get at least 2 different ones. Make sure you add them at the exact same time for better success. I had a flame and coral beauty in mine and worked out well. Good luck!

03/23/2015, 10:19 AM	#13
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	ok. then that will be fine, but in alot of cases many hobbyists said they are going to upgrade when the fish gets bigger. Most cases when that time comes, something else comes up that you had to spend the money on and now they cannot upgrade, so they are stuck with a fish that is stressed and could cause harm to your tank, ie ich. All I am saying is, if you know you are able to upgrade with no problems or challenges in the way go ahead, if not maybe rethink your stocklist.

03/23/2015, 01:39 PM	#14
Moray26 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 153	Id go with a yellow tang for long term in that tank then Blue may be possible. It would need to be wide.

03/24/2015, 04:48 PM	#15
MuscleFish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 84	Thanks friends!