What type of anemone is this?

Bulldog87333 · 04/26/2015, 09:07 PM

I've tried google, lfs, and petco. Every place I've asked tells me something different. Any help would be appreciated. Thx.

maxxII · 04/26/2015, 09:18 PM

Looks like a BTA ....Bubble Tipped Anemone (e. Quadricolor).

asudavew · 04/26/2015, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by maxxII

Looks like a BTA ....Bubble Tipped Anemone (e. Quadricolor).

I agree. It has lost the bubble tips.

Bulldog87333 · 04/26/2015, 10:00 PM

Thanks for the help. My tanks pretty new and at the time I didn't know it was bad to get anemones this early on. I'm hoping he does ok. Any suggestions are welcome.

Nina51 · 04/27/2015, 06:56 AM

unless your tank is at least 6-9 months old, i'd think about returning the nem to wherever you got it. do lots of reading and don't just go on what your lfs tells you. caring for a nem is lots more than just plopping it in your tank. you need to cover all of your power heads to avoid it getting shredded. a dying nem will foul your tank in the blink of an eye.

not to sound harsh but do some research before you add things to your tank that you aren't sure how to care for.

Azedenkae · 04/27/2015, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog87333

Thanks for the help. My tanks pretty new and at the time I didn't know it was bad to get anemones this early on. I'm hoping he does ok. Any suggestions are welcome.

Well it depends on your tank parameters more so any specific time frame.

Don't worry, if your tank is all setted up properly and everything is sweet then it'd be fine. But yeah otherwise best return it, they aren't the easiest to keep.

JuggZaPoppiN · 04/27/2015, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nina51

unless your tank is at least 6-9 months old, i'd think about returning the nem to wherever you got it. do lots of reading and don't just go on what your lfs tells you. caring for a nem is lots more than just plopping it in your tank. you need to cover all of your power heads to avoid it getting shredded. a dying nem will foul your tank in the blink of an eye.

not to sound harsh but do some research before you add things to your tank that you aren't sure how to care for.

I agree to an extent.
If all your water parameters are in check and you do your diligence to make sure the nem has everything it needs you should be fine.
My tank is maybe 3 months old and is doing great. Just got a Long tentacle anemone the other day from Petco and he seems to be extremely happy. Even fed him some raw shrimp!

Now I just need my snowflake clowns to host it.

Nina51 · 04/27/2015, 09:47 AM

the nem hosts the clowns, not the other way around.

JuggZaPoppiN · 04/27/2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nina51

the nem hosts the clowns, not the other way around.

Correct. Thanks for making me feel uneducated. LOL

jrp1588 · 04/27/2015, 10:12 AM

If you know what you're doing, and parameters are fine, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable dropping a 'nem in after a couple months (I've done it several times.) BTA's have always been bulletproof for me. I drop them in, they attach immediately, and don't move much. Maybe I just have a psychic touch for knowing what spot they'll like, but I've never had one move more than a couple inches in years.

I don't feed them, or do anything special for them. I just let their clownfish and light take care of everything it needs.

Nina51 · 04/27/2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JuggZaPoppiN

Correct. Thanks for making me feel uneducated. LOL

that wasn't my intention. i just see this so often and i guess it drives me crazy. or crazier than i already am!

Bulldog87333 · 04/27/2015, 08:59 PM

Thanks for all the advice. After I learned more about anemones I decided to take it back, but the place doesn't take returns. The only place that I know of that will take him looks horrible. The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time. The nem has been doing great since I got him 4 weeks ago. I haven't fed him anything directly, but he catches mysis shrimp and pellets when I feed the fish. I feel like I cursed myself making this post. He looked great till 2 days ago. He got all shriveled and I saw some poop come out. I read that that was normal, so I didn't worry about it. When I came home today after work, he looks bad. I'll add some pics. I did a 10% weekly water change yesterday. The salinity is 1.024 and the water tested fine. Do u think he's splitting?

Azedenkae · 04/27/2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog87333

Thanks for all the advice. After I learned more about anemones I decided to take it back, but the place doesn't take returns. The only place that I know of that will take him looks horrible. The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time. The nem has been doing great since I got him 4 weeks ago. I haven't fed him anything directly, but he catches mysis shrimp and pellets when I feed the fish. I feel like I cursed myself making this post. He looked great till 2 days ago. He got all shriveled and I saw some poop come out. I read that that was normal, so I didn't worry about it. When I came home today after work, he looks bad. I'll add some pics. I did a 10% weekly water change yesterday. The salinity is 1.024 and the water tested fine. Do u think he's splitting?

Not entirely sure, but seems so. Good luck! Just let him be, don't do anything else for now.

Bulldog87333 · 04/27/2015, 09:22 PM

Ok ill keep an eye on it.

Dkuhlmann · 04/28/2015, 02:48 AM

Looks like you are about to have two of them

Good Luck!

chefbill · 04/28/2015, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog87333

The tank has been running 6 weeks. I have the water tested weekly and it has been perfect every time.

Before adding anything else, or doing anything else, I'd invest in your own test kit. I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS. Redsea, Salifert are better than API>

JUst my $.02

jrp1588 · 04/28/2015, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chefbill

I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS.

Wow, harsh. It's more the general lack of training and knowledge that makes me distrust them, not their complexion or lack of a high paying job.

That being said, a test kit is always a good idea (though I don't use mine much).

chefbill · 04/28/2015, 07:38 AM

OK, yes that was uncalled for. The point I was trying to make was this: They are generally (at least in my area) high school kids that are happy to just have a job, employed by owners happy to not have to do it all themselves. YOU have a vested interest in have the right results from tests done correctly. THEY (the LFS) can tell you whatever number they want to get you to make another purchase. After all, by the doing the tests, they have already spent time and money on you, they want to get some of that back.

Bulldog87333 · 04/28/2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chefbill

Before adding anything else, or doing anything else, I'd invest in your own test kit. I trust myself more than some pimply faced minimum wage earner at the LFS. Redsea, Salifert are better than API>

JUst my $.02

Lol. Actually the place I have the water tested has a bunch of hot girls that work there. It is prolly the reason I haven't bought a test kit yet. I haven't decided if I should buy just an API master reef kit for now or if I should buy the Red Sea test kits individually. I don't have any coral yet, but I plan on buying some next month. If I do go with Red Sea, what test should I buy first? Do I need to get them all or can I get by with a few? I want this BTA to thrive, so I could cough up the money to get what I need for him. Let me know what u guys think. Thx again!

julie180 · 04/29/2015, 05:48 AM

Nitrates, phosphate, kh are the necessary basic test. Calcium and magnesium are a close second.

You can still have the hot girls test your water

But you should also be testing yourself and logging the results so you can track changes and act accordingly.

One of the problems is LFS usually tell you "water is fine" which does not really give you any information. You need to know solid numbers.

Dkuhlmann · 04/29/2015, 05:52 AM

Julie is correct, "fine" and "good" are NOT water parameters

Bulldog87333 · 04/29/2015, 10:37 AM

Thx again for the advice. I'll pick them up today and post results later.

Bpb · 04/29/2015, 02:21 PM

Love all the advice here. I thought the LFS worker description was hilarious. No offense to that taken here. I tend to agree. When I've ever purchased livestock from the LFS I'll say what I want and I get a puzzled look and have to go "here, look" point and say "That one." It's true, unless it's the owner of a reef specific store, the employees generally are just happy to afford gas and beer money. That's about it. Keep having the hotties test your water for you. Definitely nothing wrong with that, Just don't pay attention to the numbers you get. Buy your own tests in the mean time and do it right at home.

I used to say age didnt matter only measurables, but something immeasurable seems to be at play when it comes to sensitive livestock. I have observed more acropora struggles in new tank builds, despite having temperature automation, stable ca and alk through calcium reactors or dosing, and stable salinity from an ATO, along with appropriate PO4 and NO3 measurements. With identical parameters, but age being the only difference, things seem to get better. I don't know why. I'm sure it has to do with something we cant/don't test for

Bulldog87333 · 04/30/2015, 01:28 AM

So my water parameters were not so perfect. Nobody local had any other test kits, so I got the API reef kit for everything other than the ammonia and ph. I added a bag of chemi-pure elite and am adding a capful of stability a day. I plan on doing another 30%-50% water change. Is this a good plan or should I be doing anything else? Thx again for the help.

Ammonia. 0 ppm

Nitrite. 0.4 ppm

Nitrate. 40 ppm

Phosphate. 0.20 ppm

Calcium. 520 ppm

Alkalinity. 13 dKH

Salinity. 1.024

PH. 8.3

Water Temperature 78-80

Dkuhlmann · 04/30/2015, 03:13 AM

Nope, not "fine" at all. Your tank appears to still be in it's cycle having nitrites. When they stop that 40 nitrate will look like nothing, nitrates will usually explode. You shouldn't have any livestock in your tank yet... much less an anemone.

Patience grasshopper, patience

04/26/2015, 09:18 PM	#2
maxxII Super Housemonkey! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 4,442	Looks like a BTA ....Bubble Tipped Anemone (e. Quadricolor). __________________ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"

04/27/2015, 06:56 AM	#5
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	unless your tank is at least 6-9 months old, i'd think about returning the nem to wherever you got it. do lots of reading and don't just go on what your lfs tells you. caring for a nem is lots more than just plopping it in your tank. you need to cover all of your power heads to avoid it getting shredded. a dying nem will foul your tank in the blink of an eye. not to sound harsh but do some research before you add things to your tank that you aren't sure how to care for. __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

04/27/2015, 09:47 AM	#8
Nina51 biggliest cofveve champ Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5th floor, Illinois, gewgaw expert Posts: 3,506	the nem hosts the clowns, not the other way around. __________________ of all the things i've lost, i miss my gary the most. Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine into your brain, and that is where crappy ideas come from. Current Tank Info: i gave my reef away and i feel like a bird out of a cage!!

04/28/2015, 02:48 AM	#15
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Looks like you are about to have two of them Good Luck! __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

04/29/2015, 05:52 AM	#21
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Julie is correct, "fine" and "good" are NOT water parameters __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

04/26/2015, 10:00 PM	#4
Bulldog87333 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 22	Thanks for the help. My tanks pretty new and at the time I didn't know it was bad to get anemones this early on. I'm hoping he does ok. Any suggestions are welcome.

04/27/2015, 10:12 AM	#10
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	If you know what you're doing, and parameters are fine, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable dropping a 'nem in after a couple months (I've done it several times.) BTA's have always been bulletproof for me. I drop them in, they attach immediately, and don't move much. Maybe I just have a psychic touch for knowing what spot they'll like, but I've never had one move more than a couple inches in years. I don't feed them, or do anything special for them. I just let their clownfish and light take care of everything it needs.

04/27/2015, 09:22 PM	#14
Bulldog87333 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 22	Ok ill keep an eye on it.

04/28/2015, 07:38 AM	#18
chefbill Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 530	OK, yes that was uncalled for. The point I was trying to make was this: They are generally (at least in my area) high school kids that are happy to just have a job, employed by owners happy to not have to do it all themselves. YOU have a vested interest in have the right results from tests done correctly. THEY (the LFS) can tell you whatever number they want to get you to make another purchase. After all, by the doing the tests, they have already spent time and money on you, they want to get some of that back.

04/29/2015, 05:48 AM	#20
julie180 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raymore, MO Posts: 2,556	Nitrates, phosphate, kh are the necessary basic test. Calcium and magnesium are a close second. You can still have the hot girls test your water But you should also be testing yourself and logging the results so you can track changes and act accordingly. One of the problems is LFS usually tell you "water is fine" which does not really give you any information. You need to know solid numbers.

04/29/2015, 10:37 AM	#22
Bulldog87333 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 22	Thx again for the advice. I'll pick them up today and post results later.

04/29/2015, 02:21 PM	#23
Bpb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 3,148	Love all the advice here. I thought the LFS worker description was hilarious. No offense to that taken here. I tend to agree. When I've ever purchased livestock from the LFS I'll say what I want and I get a puzzled look and have to go "here, look" point and say "That one." It's true, unless it's the owner of a reef specific store, the employees generally are just happy to afford gas and beer money. That's about it. Keep having the hotties test your water for you. Definitely nothing wrong with that, Just don't pay attention to the numbers you get. Buy your own tests in the mean time and do it right at home. I used to say age didnt matter only measurables, but something immeasurable seems to be at play when it comes to sensitive livestock. I have observed more acropora struggles in new tank builds, despite having temperature automation, stable ca and alk through calcium reactors or dosing, and stable salinity from an ATO, along with appropriate PO4 and NO3 measurements. With identical parameters, but age being the only difference, things seem to get better. I don't know why. I'm sure it has to do with something we cant/don't test for

04/30/2015, 01:28 AM	#24
Bulldog87333 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 22	So my water parameters were not so perfect. Nobody local had any other test kits, so I got the API reef kit for everything other than the ammonia and ph. I added a bag of chemi-pure elite and am adding a capful of stability a day. I plan on doing another 30%-50% water change. Is this a good plan or should I be doing anything else? Thx again for the help. Ammonia. 0 ppm Nitrite. 0.4 ppm Nitrate. 40 ppm Phosphate. 0.20 ppm Calcium. 520 ppm Alkalinity. 13 dKH Salinity. 1.024 PH. 8.3 Water Temperature 78-80

04/30/2015, 03:13 AM	#25
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Nope, not "fine" at all. Your tank appears to still be in it's cycle having nitrites. When they stop that 40 nitrate will look like nothing, nitrates will usually explode. You shouldn't have any livestock in your tank yet... much less an anemone. Patience grasshopper, patience __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300