Re scaped and a new addition

SassyAngel111 · 05/09/2015, 07:48 PM

Since I needed to add more live rock I had to redo the scape, I added 1 large flat piece and the a one with several divots for coral.

then a flasher wrasse.

Oh then I think one of my peppermint is full of eggs, I cant get a good pic of her.

airtime23 · 05/09/2015, 09:25 PM

Is it okay to give constructive criticism? I don't wanna offend ya...

SassyAngel111 · 05/09/2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by airtime23

Is it okay to give constructive criticism? I don't wanna offend ya...

airtime23, if you have constructive criticism please let me know. I know this is how people learn is by others responses.

CStrickland · 05/09/2015, 11:02 PM

I think it's cute, but you have kind of a cave shape going on. See the parts of the rock that the light is hitting? Those will be good places for coral, so if you opened up the shelf over the middle you might gain some primo sunny real estate front and center. Like if it sloped backward a little instead, or wasn't shaded. How many pounds of rock / gallons of water do you have?

Congrats on being a shrimp grandma! What's your next fish going to be?

Dkuhlmann · 05/10/2015, 02:43 AM

Yes you need to do a different aquascape so you have "shelves" of sorts to place corals if you do intend to get them. You want more of your rock being hit by the light and less dark spaces. You also want open holes between the rocks so fish, snails, hermits and your shrimp have little caves within the rock to explore and hide. Probably most important in the layout is to allow water circulation between and behind the rocks to keep detritus down to a minimum.

You're gonna love that flasher wrasse. What else do you plan on getting?

SassyAngel111 · 05/10/2015, 06:51 AM

CStrickland, I'll try moving some of the rocks so they are kinda leaning back instead. I have know about 56lbs and will be getting another 20lbs more when they get more in next weekend. the lfs that I have been going to has only been opened since about June of last year. They are a small shop so limited space. Yea now I have to figure out how to keep the larva from being a midnight snack.

Dkunmann, My only problem is that this tank is a pentagon so kinda of hard to figure out how to set the rock work up to make it look decent but also not so tall. I know when I get more rock I will have to redo the scape again, I do have so room to move the rock back further then try to open it up more.

As for the fish besides the wrasse I have 2 blue chromis and not sure if I want a centron goby or what other fish to add, all I know is that I have to be careful on the next couple of fish that I add as I want something flashy since that will be enough for this tank.

sublime9182 · 05/10/2015, 09:04 AM

You will need a cover for your tank!!!! I lo s t my mccoskers because he jumped out... they are infamous for jumping!!

In the wild I believe that is their defense mechanism they jump out water to confuse their enemies.

SassyAngel111 · 05/10/2015, 03:16 PM

sublime9182, yea just went and bought some figerglass screen and framing material to make a cover.

airtime23 · 05/10/2015, 06:45 PM

Your scape looks too much like a mound of rocks. Perhaps think about two different "islands" of rock in the tank, maybe one small and one large, with a valley in between. Try not to stack rock along the back wall -- this makes less swimming space and is a trap for detritus.

I'm not personally a fan of the "wall of rock" look. Keep in mind that the fish need lots of room to swim and corals will need room in order to grow out.

I'm a big fan of open scapes....less is more, in my opinion.

SassyAngel111 · 05/11/2015, 05:47 AM

airtime23. I have seen some pics of having the two different islands of rock, the only thing is with the tank being a 72gl. pentagon shape tank I just don't think that would work as I stlll need to add about another 20lbs yet. I'm still not sure how I am going to put the 20lbs when I get it.

Just wish I would have thought about how hard this shape of a tank would be to lay out the rock to make it look good.

CStrickland · 05/11/2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SassyAngel111

Just wish I would have thought about how hard this shape of a tank would be to lay out the rock to make it look good.

You might get some good ideas in here sassy
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ht=corner+club
My phone's being a punk about adding links but maybe you can paste that into your browser

ETA or maybe the link does work? Whatev.

woodnaquanut · 05/11/2015, 09:57 AM

I'm not sure why you think you need more rock. To my eye you need less!

Our eyes get bored with symmetry. Anything you could do to 'unbalance' the stack would be more interesting.

I'd try removing the small rock far lower right and replacing it with the big white rock that is center top. You have those unusual points of the pentagon, left and right. If the big rock could point into one, this would make good use of this feature. This would also give more light to the rock in lower center, unbalance the stack and provide more space for corals.

If the rock is too tall you won't have space for corals to grow toward the surface.

Any chance you could post some pics of the tank from the sides? It would be nice to see what the back of the stack looks like.

heathlindner25 · 05/11/2015, 01:27 PM

I also agree and think you have" enough rock" ...the whole thing needs to be re-scaped though.

SassyAngel111 · 05/11/2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by woodnaquanut

I'm not sure why you think you need more rock. To my eye you need less!

Ok so then I can get by with less than 1lb per gallon for the rock?

Any chance you could post some pics of the tank from the sides? It would be nice to see what the back of the stack looks like.

Ok the first one is the right side of the corner, 2nd one is the back view from the right side if you were standing at the front of the tank, 3rd is the left corner, then the back side.

05/10/2015, 02:43 AM	#5
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Yes you need to do a different aquascape so you have "shelves" of sorts to place corals if you do intend to get them. You want more of your rock being hit by the light and less dark spaces. You also want open holes between the rocks so fish, snails, hermits and your shrimp have little caves within the rock to explore and hide. Probably most important in the layout is to allow water circulation between and behind the rocks to keep detritus down to a minimum. You're gonna love that flasher wrasse. What else do you plan on getting? __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

05/10/2015, 06:51 AM	#6
SassyAngel111 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 167	CStrickland, I'll try moving some of the rocks so they are kinda leaning back instead. I have know about 56lbs and will be getting another 20lbs more when they get more in next weekend. the lfs that I have been going to has only been opened since about June of last year. They are a small shop so limited space. Yea now I have to figure out how to keep the larva from being a midnight snack. Dkunmann, My only problem is that this tank is a pentagon so kinda of hard to figure out how to set the rock work up to make it look decent but also not so tall. I know when I get more rock I will have to redo the scape again, I do have so room to move the rock back further then try to open it up more. As for the fish besides the wrasse I have 2 blue chromis and not sure if I want a centron goby or what other fish to add, all I know is that I have to be careful on the next couple of fish that I add as I want something flashy since that will be enough for this tank. __________________ I can resist anything but temptation Current Tank Info: 56gl. column tank, around 45lbs of rock, 2 1/2" sand, lights Oceanrvive 120w LED's, Maxi-jet 900, Eshopps PF800 overflow box, Eshopps R-100 refugium, skimmer Eshopps s120

05/10/2015, 03:16 PM	#8
SassyAngel111 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 167	sublime9182, yea just went and bought some figerglass screen and framing material to make a cover. __________________ I can resist anything but temptation Current Tank Info: 56gl. column tank, around 45lbs of rock, 2 1/2" sand, lights Oceanrvive 120w LED's, Maxi-jet 900, Eshopps PF800 overflow box, Eshopps R-100 refugium, skimmer Eshopps s120

05/11/2015, 05:47 AM	#10
SassyAngel111 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 167	airtime23. I have seen some pics of having the two different islands of rock, the only thing is with the tank being a 72gl. pentagon shape tank I just don't think that would work as I stlll need to add about another 20lbs yet. I'm still not sure how I am going to put the 20lbs when I get it. Just wish I would have thought about how hard this shape of a tank would be to lay out the rock to make it look good. __________________ I can resist anything but temptation Current Tank Info: 56gl. column tank, around 45lbs of rock, 2 1/2" sand, lights Oceanrvive 120w LED's, Maxi-jet 900, Eshopps PF800 overflow box, Eshopps R-100 refugium, skimmer Eshopps s120

05/11/2015, 09:57 AM	#12
woodnaquanut Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 2,727	I'm not sure why you think you need more rock. To my eye you need less! Our eyes get bored with symmetry. Anything you could do to 'unbalance' the stack would be more interesting. I'd try removing the small rock far lower right and replacing it with the big white rock that is center top. You have those unusual points of the pentagon, left and right. If the big rock could point into one, this would make good use of this feature. This would also give more light to the rock in lower center, unbalance the stack and provide more space for corals. If the rock is too tall you won't have space for corals to grow toward the surface. Any chance you could post some pics of the tank from the sides? It would be nice to see what the back of the stack looks like. __________________ John DT 120G. mixed reef w/ lots of automation + assorted FW and SW tanks.

05/09/2015, 09:25 PM	#2
airtime23 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Charlotte Posts: 488	Is it okay to give constructive criticism? I don't wanna offend ya...

05/09/2015, 11:02 PM	#4
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	I think it's cute, but you have kind of a cave shape going on. See the parts of the rock that the light is hitting? Those will be good places for coral, so if you opened up the shelf over the middle you might gain some primo sunny real estate front and center. Like if it sloped backward a little instead, or wasn't shaded. How many pounds of rock / gallons of water do you have? Congrats on being a shrimp grandma! What's your next fish going to be?

05/10/2015, 09:04 AM	#7
sublime9182 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 317	You will need a cover for your tank!!!! I lo s t my mccoskers because he jumped out... they are infamous for jumping!! In the wild I believe that is their defense mechanism they jump out water to confuse their enemies.

05/10/2015, 06:45 PM	#9
airtime23 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Charlotte Posts: 488	Your scape looks too much like a mound of rocks. Perhaps think about two different "islands" of rock in the tank, maybe one small and one large, with a valley in between. Try not to stack rock along the back wall -- this makes less swimming space and is a trap for detritus. I'm not personally a fan of the "wall of rock" look. Keep in mind that the fish need lots of room to swim and corals will need room in order to grow out. I'm a big fan of open scapes....less is more, in my opinion.

05/11/2015, 01:27 PM	#13
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	I also agree and think you have" enough rock" ...the whole thing needs to be re-scaped though.