Montipora getting white patches

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 07:56 AM

How do I know if I'm using too much light or too little?

d2mini · 06/12/2015, 09:11 AM

With monti's, too much light will typically show little polyp extension and yes they can start bleaching. Some of my month's do best on my sand bed and have crazy polyp extension and color.
Too little light can create dull/brown colors.
It could also be unrelated to your lighting.
What monti are we talking about and where is it in the tank? What lighting?

mserebro · 06/12/2015, 09:27 AM

Can you post a pic? If the patches are near the edges, make sure nudis are not present

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 02:40 PM

Sorry, posted this topic at bedtime, not on edges but sporadically on the entirety, 10" under water with OR Arctic t247

heathlindner25 · 06/12/2015, 02:59 PM

Do you have anything that could sting it ,near it?

hogfanreefer · 06/12/2015, 05:34 PM

Do the white places look like this? (sorry for the bad picture)

snorvich · 06/12/2015, 06:35 PM

Have you examined for montipora eating nudibranchs? What alkalinity?

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:40 PM

Kk yes patches look like that, can't tes talk yet, sorry no good pic today, I'll pull out a real camera tomorrow

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:41 PM

Sorry, can't test alk yet...sorry ipad is "helping" me with my spelling

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:42 PM

No on stinging btw' only 3 corals so far, nearest is 8" away...brain that came on LR

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:49 PM

Here are my parameters, just tested,
salinity- 1.024
Ph-8
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-0 (I tested this 3 times)
Copper-0 (I have the kit so I tested)
Carbonate hardness-7 (just got this kit, I know it is a hair low)
Phosphate-0 (this is a surprise as I don't use ro-di, but I have a spring)
Alkalinity - I can't test this yet
Calcium-420 (heh heh)

I just got the phosphate kit because I expected to have phosphates since I don't use ro-di, I also tested my spring water with it, tests 0 also.

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:51 PM

Most of my tests are API because that is what I have easy access to at the moment, I'll get the big *** sera box when I have the money, I just got my skimmer so I'll have to go without it a month or two

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

Have you examined for montipora eating nudibranchs? What alkalinity?

I don't see anything but I don't really have any pests, only have 1 small piece of LR in the tank to seed some coralline from.

tennesseebob · 06/12/2015, 10:15 PM

Kk ideas, how long does it take bleach to evaporate off my socks, I rinsed them thoroughly and let them air dry 2 days, and am running carbon for funsies, but all the tiger pods I dumped into my fuge seem to be dead, can I test for chlorine bleach?

CuzzA · 06/13/2015, 05:45 AM

Two ideas of what's going on. IME, alk swings will burn montis anywhere, unlike some other corals like acros that typically get burnt tips. Being that you haven't tested and tracked alkalinity leads me to believe that's likely the culprit.

Second, is salt creep landing on the monti. Due to way montis grow, with their big plates, lots of stuff has a tendency to land on them. Salt creep being one of them and it will burn the coral.

If you're going to keep hard corals, you'll need to monitor alkalinity. Most important parameter for hard corals.

tennesseebob · 06/13/2015, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuzzA

Two ideas of what's going on. IME, alk swings will burn montis anywhere, unlike some other corals like acros that typically get burnt tips. Being that you haven't tested and tracked alkalinity leads me to believe that's likely the culprit.

Second, is salt creep landing on the monti. Due to way montis grow, with their big plates, lots of stuff has a tendency to land on them. Salt creep being one of them and it will burn the coral.

If you're going to keep hard corals, you'll need to monitor alkalinity. Most important parameter for hard corals.

I'm surprised none of my LFS had a kit in stock, but I'll hit the intarwebs and order one up...and no on salt creep...yet lol

domvert · 06/13/2015, 11:09 AM

mine monti does that but I think its when I have swings in ALK.. It is recover

tennesseebob · 06/13/2015, 02:22 PM

Also...it is a new frag, so I'm sure my alk was different than LFS

hogfanreefer · 06/13/2015, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennesseebob

Kk yes patches look like that, can't tes talk yet, sorry no good pic today, I'll pull out a real camera tomorrow

Those places were caused by a combtooth blenny biting it. Sometimes fish you wouldn't think of being a problem do.

tennesseebob · 06/13/2015, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogfanreefer

Those places were caused by a combtooth blenny biting it. Sometimes fish you wouldn't think of being a problem do.

I have a Bicolor blenny, his current favorite spots so watch the tank are all within 10" of that frag...and the spots are roughly the size of the clean spots when he takes a nip of diatoms...very suspicious lol

06/12/2015, 07:56 AM	#1
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Montipora getting white patches How do I know if I'm using too much light or too little? __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 09:11 AM	#2
d2mini Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 10,344	With monti's, too much light will typically show little polyp extension and yes they can start bleaching. Some of my month's do best on my sand bed and have crazy polyp extension and color. Too little light can create dull/brown colors. It could also be unrelated to your lighting. What monti are we talking about and where is it in the tank? What lighting? __________________ -dennis Elos Diamond 120xl \| Elos Stand \| Radion G4 Pros \| GHL Profilux Controller \| LifeReef Skimmer \| LifeReef Sump Photos taken with a Nikon D750 or Leica M.

06/12/2015, 02:40 PM	#4
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Sorry, posted this topic at bedtime, not on edges but sporadically on the entirety, 10" under water with OR Arctic t247 __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 05:34 PM	#6
hogfanreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,117	Do the white places look like this? (sorry for the bad picture) __________________ DSA 155,Custom Trigger 42" sump/refugium, MP40 X2, MP 10 X 2, AI Hydra 52 X3, Apex controller, Tunze ATO Current Tank Info: DSA 155 gallon, mixed reef, SPS and wrasse dominant

06/12/2015, 06:35 PM	#7
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Have you examined for montipora eating nudibranchs? What alkalinity? __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

06/12/2015, 09:27 AM	#3
mserebro Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 49	Can you post a pic? If the patches are near the edges, make sure nudis are not present

06/12/2015, 02:59 PM	#5
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	Do you have anything that could sting it ,near it?

06/12/2015, 09:40 PM	#8
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Kk yes patches look like that, can't tes talk yet, sorry no good pic today, I'll pull out a real camera tomorrow __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 09:41 PM	#9
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Sorry, can't test alk yet...sorry ipad is "helping" me with my spelling __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 09:42 PM	#10
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	No on stinging btw' only 3 corals so far, nearest is 8" away...brain that came on LR __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 09:49 PM	#11
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Here are my parameters, just tested, salinity- 1.024 Ph-8 Ammonia-0 Nitrite-0 Nitrate-0 (I tested this 3 times) Copper-0 (I have the kit so I tested) Carbonate hardness-7 (just got this kit, I know it is a hair low) Phosphate-0 (this is a surprise as I don't use ro-di, but I have a spring) Alkalinity - I can't test this yet Calcium-420 (heh heh) I just got the phosphate kit because I expected to have phosphates since I don't use ro-di, I also tested my spring water with it, tests 0 also. __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 09:51 PM	#12
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Most of my tests are API because that is what I have easy access to at the moment, I'll get the big *** sera box when I have the money, I just got my skimmer so I'll have to go without it a month or two __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/12/2015, 10:15 PM	#14
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Kk ideas, how long does it take bleach to evaporate off my socks, I rinsed them thoroughly and let them air dry 2 days, and am running carbon for funsies, but all the tiger pods I dumped into my fuge seem to be dead, can I test for chlorine bleach? __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall

06/13/2015, 05:45 AM	#15
CuzzA Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 2,997	Two ideas of what's going on. IME, alk swings will burn montis anywhere, unlike some other corals like acros that typically get burnt tips. Being that you haven't tested and tracked alkalinity leads me to believe that's likely the culprit. Second, is salt creep landing on the monti. Due to way montis grow, with their big plates, lots of stuff has a tendency to land on them. Salt creep being one of them and it will burn the coral. If you're going to keep hard corals, you'll need to monitor alkalinity. Most important parameter for hard corals.

06/13/2015, 11:09 AM	#17
domvert Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: nc Posts: 103	mine monti does that but I think its when I have swings in ALK.. It is recover

06/13/2015, 02:22 PM	#18
tennesseebob Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 423	Also...it is a new frag, so I'm sure my alk was different than LFS __________________ 150g tall D/T (48x24x30), 40b Sump 2 Arctic t247 LEDs 2 Jebao RW-8, 2 RW-4 Skimz Monzter SM201 Current Tank Info: 48",24",30" 150g tall