Particles Constantly in Water Column

AUFishGuy · 10/07/2015, 12:03 PM

I have a 90 gallon and am running the herbie method.

I constantly see small particles, looks like sand but all of my power heads are aimed upward away from the bottom of the tank. They are not all uniform in size and are definitely not air bubbles. This has been going on for weeks, I assumed the filter sock would take care of the problem but it hasn't. I am not sure if that is due to the sock itself or if these particles arent making it into the overflow or what.

Any ideas on how to fix this issue?

cloak · 10/07/2015, 12:23 PM

What kind of livestock do you have in the tank? If it's an ongoing problem my first thought would be that something is stirring your substrate up on a regular basis.

AUFishGuy · 10/07/2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cloak

What kind of livestock do you have in the tank? If it's an ongoing problem my first thought would be that something is stirring your substrate up on a regular basis.

Only fish is a Valentini puffer. Have snails and hermits

nuxx · 10/07/2015, 01:01 PM

Probably something getting some of your sand.

We had the same problem just using the Jebaos on their stock controllers. After we hooked them up to the APEX and did some custom programs, it stopped...

AUFishGuy · 10/07/2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nuxx

Probably something getting some of your sand.

We had the same problem just using the Jebaos on their stock controllers. After we hooked them up to the APEX and did some custom programs, it stopped...

interesting because i am using a jebao rw8 but only one for the entire tank. i am in the process of getting another. Why do you think that pump with the regular controller would be causing the problem, like how so? I have a reefkeeper so i am not sure if i could hook them up to that

nuxx · 10/07/2015, 01:17 PM

6 pumps and in else mode they run at 100%...

Just too much going on. The new programs have very ramps and patterns, not nearly as hectic in the tank... but the flow is very nice.

Morfishlee · 10/07/2015, 03:03 PM

Do you dose 2 part? It may be precipitate.

AUFishGuy · 10/07/2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Morfishlee

Do you dose 2 part? It may be precipitate.

I do not dose at all.

I really feel like its not getting into the overflow so that is caught in the filter sock? Should i throw some filter floss in the end of the sock and see if that helps?

mitchrapp · 10/07/2015, 04:23 PM

I had this problem too when I was using 200 micron socks. Once I switched to 100 micron socks, it went away. But now I have to change the socks more often.

AUFishGuy · 10/07/2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchrapp

I had this problem too when I was using 200 micron socks. Once I switched to 100 micron socks, it went away. But now I have to change the socks more often.

Where did you get them. I only saw 200 on BRS

mitchrapp · 10/08/2015, 10:33 AM

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Where did you get them. I only saw 200 on BRS

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AUFishGuy · 10/08/2015, 09:14 PM

I really think the issue is that the particles are not getting into the overflow. Could I just place a back of filter floss in the DT for a day or so to help clear it up? Would this work?

AUFishGuy · 10/09/2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AUFishGuy

I really think the issue is that the particles are not getting into the overflow. Could I just place a back of filter floss in the DT for a day or so to help clear it up? Would this work?

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Bent · 10/09/2015, 01:52 PM

I have the same issue. I've never been able to keep a glass clear water column like some of these people. Ever.

I've ran socks, no socks, carbon, no carbon. I don't worry about it anymore.

Allentown · 10/09/2015, 02:13 PM

It's almost certainly a combination of things. When my pumps run higher I get more. When my filter socks get close to needing changed and are partially clogged I get water so clear it's like the fish are flying.

It's a combination of fine sand particles which will eventually improve and micro-bubbles which has more to do with how your sump is set up and how much surface agitation you have.

10/07/2015, 12:03 PM	#1
AUFishGuy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 254	Particles Constantly in Water Column I have a 90 gallon and am running the herbie method. I constantly see small particles, looks like sand but all of my power heads are aimed upward away from the bottom of the tank. They are not all uniform in size and are definitely not air bubbles. This has been going on for weeks, I assumed the filter sock would take care of the problem but it hasn't. I am not sure if that is due to the sock itself or if these particles arent making it into the overflow or what. Any ideas on how to fix this issue?

10/07/2015, 01:01 PM	#4
nuxx RC Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 3,990	Probably something getting some of your sand. We had the same problem just using the Jebaos on their stock controllers. After we hooked them up to the APEX and did some custom programs, it stopped... __________________ Peter TankStop - Fish and Coral 470G Display - Build Thread Current Tank Info: Retired - 470 Gallon Mixed Reef (120x29x31")

10/07/2015, 01:17 PM	#6
nuxx RC Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 3,990	6 pumps and in else mode they run at 100%... Just too much going on. The new programs have very ramps and patterns, not nearly as hectic in the tank... but the flow is very nice. __________________ Peter TankStop - Fish and Coral 470G Display - Build Thread Current Tank Info: Retired - 470 Gallon Mixed Reef (120x29x31")

10/09/2015, 01:52 PM	#14
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	I have the same issue. I've never been able to keep a glass clear water column like some of these people. Ever. I've ran socks, no socks, carbon, no carbon. I don't worry about it anymore. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

10/09/2015, 02:13 PM	#15
Allentown Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Augusta, Ga Posts: 975	It's almost certainly a combination of things. When my pumps run higher I get more. When my filter socks get close to needing changed and are partially clogged I get water so clear it's like the fish are flying. It's a combination of fine sand particles which will eventually improve and micro-bubbles which has more to do with how your sump is set up and how much surface agitation you have. __________________ NEW Build: 225g 72x27x27 Tigger Emerald 39 Sump, ConeS CO-3, 3xHydra 52, BRS 2 part dosers, Vortech MP-40 QD Gyre XF150, Neptune Wav x2, 2x Jaebo RW-4, SMR-1, MR-1

10/07/2015, 12:23 PM	#2
cloak Moved On Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 14,854	What kind of livestock do you have in the tank? If it's an ongoing problem my first thought would be that something is stirring your substrate up on a regular basis.

10/07/2015, 03:03 PM	#7
Morfishlee Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 3	Do you dose 2 part? It may be precipitate.

10/07/2015, 04:23 PM	#9
mitchrapp Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 297	I had this problem too when I was using 200 micron socks. Once I switched to 100 micron socks, it went away. But now I have to change the socks more often.

10/08/2015, 09:14 PM	#12
AUFishGuy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 254	I really think the issue is that the particles are not getting into the overflow. Could I just place a back of filter floss in the DT for a day or so to help clear it up? Would this work?