Help with two issues

Catica405 · 10/27/2015, 09:57 PM

Hi there everybody,

After setting up my new tank and having a very strong tomato survive the conditions of new cycling water, things are going better. Now dealing with a bit of phosphates and a little high salinity, the rest is fine. I am encountering two problems today:

-I added a female for my tomato clown and it worked perfectly the first two weeks, until tonight! Maybe its the first time I see this happen, but the female clown seem to hate my male's guts now. He is very submissive and goes away. What surprises me is that they got along so well for so long, is it possible they don't like each other anymore or can it be that she's not having an awesome day like it happens to human females? ��

-I came home late and when I turned the lights on I saw this creepy creature hovering on my rock and hiding inside a little crack. I read this is a flatworm.. What does that mean for my tank? Is it going to hurt my creatures??
I have two tomatoes, one twin spot goby, one red banded shrimp, two peppermints, one arrowhead crab and hermits cleaning the rock. I also have 4 snails.
(I failed to upload the picture of that thing)

Dkuhlmann · 10/28/2015, 04:28 AM

Need a picture to id the critter.

As far as the clowns go Tomato clowns are very aggressive fish, it is what it is.

Sugar Magnolia · 10/28/2015, 11:10 AM

How big is the tank? How do you know your new clown is a female? How long was the other clown in the tank?

Sapelo · 10/28/2015, 01:05 PM

+1 how big is the tank? Tomato clowns need space.

CStrickland · 10/28/2015, 02:25 PM

I think I remember the trouble you had in the beginning, glad to hear things settled down a little

Twin spot gobys can be very difficult to keep alive. They aren't great beginner fish.
If your lfs is advising you on this stocking, you should probs not listen to them anymore; if you are just going to the store and buying whatever, you should try to research stuff beforehand more. At the very least you can look fish up on your phone on liveaquaria.com for decent info while you are in the store. Saltwater fish are different from other pets like cats or freshwater fish because they are mostly taken from the wild. That means they are sometimes adapted to very specific conditions that our tanks just don't provide. As opposed to animals that have been domesticated for a few generations.

I believe with the twinspots the issue is that they eat something that most tanks don't have, so they starve to death; but I'm not super sure. The problem with tomatos is they are mean, and need a lot of personal space. That will make it hard to add other fish to "their tank." It's better to figure out everything that will go in the tank and then add them in order of least to most aggressive.

Reef Frog · 10/28/2015, 04:17 PM

Twinspot gobies eat pods & other micro fauna. So new tanks often don't offer enough to eat.

CStrickland · 10/28/2015, 04:26 PM

like even worse than mandarins
I've found this list really helpful in stocking my tank, might as well link here
NoNo Fish: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1157901

Catica405 · 10/28/2015, 05:01 PM

The twin spot goby is doing great so far. He started eating frozen mysis from the sand too. The tank is a 37g but the thing is that they loved each other at the beginning. Thats why I dont see why she would be chasing him around just now. They have been together for over two weeks.

10/27/2015, 09:57 PM	#1
Catica405 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 28	Help with two issues Hi there everybody, After setting up my new tank and having a very strong tomato survive the conditions of new cycling water, things are going better. Now dealing with a bit of phosphates and a little high salinity, the rest is fine. I am encountering two problems today: -I added a female for my tomato clown and it worked perfectly the first two weeks, until tonight! Maybe its the first time I see this happen, but the female clown seem to hate my male's guts now. He is very submissive and goes away. What surprises me is that they got along so well for so long, is it possible they don't like each other anymore or can it be that she's not having an awesome day like it happens to human females? �� -I came home late and when I turned the lights on I saw this creepy creature hovering on my rock and hiding inside a little crack. I read this is a flatworm.. What does that mean for my tank? Is it going to hurt my creatures?? I have two tomatoes, one twin spot goby, one red banded shrimp, two peppermints, one arrowhead crab and hermits cleaning the rock. I also have 4 snails. (I failed to upload the picture of that thing)

10/28/2015, 04:28 AM	#2
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	Need a picture to id the critter. As far as the clowns go Tomato clowns are very aggressive fish, it is what it is. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

10/28/2015, 11:10 AM	#3
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	How big is the tank? How do you know your new clown is a female? How long was the other clown in the tank? __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

10/28/2015, 02:25 PM	#5
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	I think I remember the trouble you had in the beginning, glad to hear things settled down a little Twin spot gobys can be very difficult to keep alive. They aren't great beginner fish. If your lfs is advising you on this stocking, you should probs not listen to them anymore; if you are just going to the store and buying whatever, you should try to research stuff beforehand more. At the very least you can look fish up on your phone on liveaquaria.com for decent info while you are in the store. Saltwater fish are different from other pets like cats or freshwater fish because they are mostly taken from the wild. That means they are sometimes adapted to very specific conditions that our tanks just don't provide. As opposed to animals that have been domesticated for a few generations. I believe with the twinspots the issue is that they eat something that most tanks don't have, so they starve to death; but I'm not super sure. The problem with tomatos is they are mean, and need a lot of personal space. That will make it hard to add other fish to "their tank." It's better to figure out everything that will go in the tank and then add them in order of least to most aggressive. __________________ If you're havin tank problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but a fish ain't one Current Tank Info: 3/2016 upgrade to 120g. Chalk bass, melanurus, firefish, starry blenny, canary blenny, lyretail anthias, engineer gobys, kole tang. Softies / LPS / NPS. <3 noob4life <3

10/28/2015, 04:26 PM	#7
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	like even worse than mandarins I've found this list really helpful in stocking my tank, might as well link here NoNo Fish: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1157901 __________________ If you're havin tank problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but a fish ain't one Current Tank Info: 3/2016 upgrade to 120g. Chalk bass, melanurus, firefish, starry blenny, canary blenny, lyretail anthias, engineer gobys, kole tang. Softies / LPS / NPS. <3 noob4life <3

10/28/2015, 01:05 PM	#4
Sapelo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: North Georgia Posts: 869	+1 how big is the tank? Tomato clowns need space.

10/28/2015, 04:17 PM	#6
Reef Frog Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,121	Twinspot gobies eat pods & other micro fauna. So new tanks often don't offer enough to eat.

10/28/2015, 05:01 PM	#8
Catica405 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 28	The twin spot goby is doing great so far. He started eating frozen mysis from the sand too. The tank is a 37g but the thing is that they loved each other at the beginning. Thats why I dont see why she would be chasing him around just now. They have been together for over two weeks.