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11/16/2015, 05:40 AM | #1 |
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My total tank volume is 420 liters. Presently I have a JNS sk2 skimmer rated 800 liters but I am thinking to change a new more efficient skimmer , looking between BK vs Deltec brand. My present allowable base size between 33 * 20 * 59 cm but I am open up possibility for other measurement. As I can make a new sump but does not want to be restricted only due to base measurement . All I need is an efficient and more longer lasting skimmer. Hope this will be my last skimmer unless I upgrade to a more larger tank in the future. My present sump ; My target is for a full SPS tank , presently just starting shifting to Zeovit system. All your values suggestion will be great and help to to me! Thanks ! Cheers, MD
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Anyone ?
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11/16/2015, 12:15 PM | #3 |
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Check out Bubble Magnus skimmers, they are quite efficient
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Look into Reef Octopus and do not go too big. They will list what their skimmers are rated for under light, medium, and heavy usage. Do not go over those recommendations as any skimmer that is too big will not work correctly.
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11/16/2015, 05:22 PM | #5 |
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Thanks for your advise . I wish to have some review or advises between Bubble King and Deltec. Perhaps specifically Bubble King Mini 200 vs Deltec SC 1455.
I don't know if both are fit for my tank size and its efficiency. I have seen premium aquatic carries Bubble King but I wonder where can I buy Deltec's? Hope to hear from you all at the soonest . Cheers, MD
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Thanks !
Any review between the said 2 brands?
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For your tank a BK180 would be a perfect skimmer.
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11/16/2015, 06:56 PM | #9 |
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Thanks mike and Vinny,
I learned BK has products produced in China and the quality is far less than those they produced in Germany. I wish to compare between Deltec and BK as both are German brand. Deltec price seems to be much lower than BK? My Sump is with limited spaces I wonder if there is any differences in performance for skimmer where in pumps is located outside as against those within the Connes base, aside from easy pump maintenance. As much as possible I will choose pumps in the cone's base unless the con is more than pro. But as stated, I will not restricted due to sump space since I will much willing to build a new sump than buying something that will not effectively performed the skimming job . Lastly, what should be consider as a good skimmer? My SK2 skimmed also dark stuff and water also dark but not as dark as someone has , I know it may be the dirt varies among tanks but I feel it is not the best skimmer and I want to have the best as I am now starting into Zeovit system .
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hi !
I learned that from one of the local suppliers here that Bubble King skimmers have products produced in China and under their brand. that is why we have always ask if this is made in Germany or Made in China. that is what I heard but never see the actual products.
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MD,
Your tank is about 100 gallons. Be careful NOT to oversize a BK skimmer, it will not produce constantly if you do.
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Thanks Vinny,
So BK mini 180 and Deltec SC 1455? I saw the Deltec SC 1351 looks not enough as it is rated 300 liters I am choosing between below three? Are they good for me ?; Are those over killed to my system ?
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I can't help but wonder if the product your supplier is talking about is from Vertex. Royal Exclusiv was making products (Alpha Skimmers and pumps) for them but that is no longer the case and Vertex (as I understand) may be having some of those items produced in China instead of Germany.
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Scott would be the one to give you a recommendation on BK skimmers, he is now their US representative. You do not want to oversize.
In the US we have trouble getting Deltec parts, don't know your situation . Scott?
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The BK dc180 is what you want
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Hi Scott, Thanks for reply. Yes, I think may be the information of local suppliers are not true with unknown reason for such speculation or perhaps want to offer me other brand. So sad the Mini BK 200 is not suitable for my tank as I like they have the RD3 speedy pump. I wonder BK 180 pumps also red dragon ? Please give me an advise which is best for my tank and a little excess just in case I when a further upgrade then but certainly not oversized. Thanks MD
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Thanks Vinny for the input . Cheers, MD
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Thanks Mike, Yes , there is also couple of my friend advise me with MINi BK 180 , it has the same foot print as that of 200 but 180 does not have the RD3 speedy pump as that of 200 and I wonder if it also use red dragon pump. Have taken up this questions too with Scott. Appreciated for your precious advise. Cheers, MD
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Furthermore , my sump water level is about 30 cm of which I saw the water level of Mini BK 180 is between 13 cm to 30 cm. as with my present existing SK2 I have to elevate with a plastic tray of about 7 cm or else water will overpass the water level Tolerance of the skimmer . I recall the allowable water level of SK2 is around 22 to 25 cm. that is why I have to elevate with the help of the 7 cm plastic tray as my sump water level is about 30 cm.
Foot print of JNS - sk2 is 33 cm x 20 cm x 59 cm . Skimmer Chamber diameter : 15 cm Here with I posted the area draft of my tank and sump as well as my existing JNS SK 2 skimmer for your reference Lastly , As for guidance in choosing the right skimmer , I wonder aside from foot print , water level tolerance , water flow and air draw too? I saw BK 180 air draw (air inlet ) is 1200 l/ hr . While Deltec SC 1455 was around 600 l/hr and mine existing sk2 is only around 750 l/ hr. Will this need to be consider in choosing the efficient skimmer ? And how about the water flow of the skimmer does It also criteria of choosing ? Cheers, MD
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As for water level, every skimmer has a "best water level" range and ideally you want to target that range but every tank is different too. Things like salinity and dissolved organics play a direct role in what will work best for your skimmer. Generally that level is within the best range of the skimmer but in case of very load levels of disslved organics or low salinity, best level could been deeper than the manufacturer recommends. I suggest reading the manuals for the skimmers you are interested in and seeing what is recommended.
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Not the mini but the double cone 180 and you can get pump you want. http://premiumaquatics.com/products/...n-skimmer.html |
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thanks Scott, you been very helpful to me even with other subject I posted that seeking advises. well noted. but in the manual, the manfacturer's recomended is also what I usually look into as well as the rating of the skimmers. for intances, when I first purchase the JNS SK-2 aside that I am don't. have specialist guiding me then, I saw that rating of that skimers is 800 liters volume and since my total volume is 420 liters so I think that is good enough for me in case of upgrade my system or in case manufactures oversizing their product's specs. so, I really don't. know what else i have to look into the manual and what is the most important criteris for choosing a good skimmers. I am neither think my existing skimmers is bad or good, as it produce skimate and dirty water but colors may not be like moist of the guys here which is dark black color, mine is just dark brown to mormal black color and of coarse this may also related to loading of live stocks of each tanks. cheers, MD
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