How loud are you overflow boxs

Auston · 12/30/2015, 06:19 AM

OMG this thing is ridiculous. My overflow is so loud. I have a single one inch drain on a eshopps overflow. The overflow seems well built, what it seems is the water level in the drain box is always right at the bottom. It's as if the drain is way ahead of my pump. It's a Rio 2100 600gph on a 5/8th line 3ft. Head. Are they always like this? Is there something I'm doing wrong?. I can't imagine anyone would ever use these if this is how they sound. It's like a kid sucking the last sip of milk through a straw from a ten gallon jug!

ethuman · 12/30/2015, 07:01 AM

do you have the foam prefilters in the back of the over flow set up?

Syntax1325 · 12/30/2015, 07:10 AM

Do you have a valve on your return line? Installing a ball valve, or better yet a gate valve, will give you precise control of the flow into the sump. However, without an emergency drain, I would hesitate in restricting that line.

chimmike · 12/30/2015, 07:12 AM

single durso won't ever be really quiet, but if it's getting too much flow (though I doubt it is, a rio 2100 at 600gph is with 0 head, you're probably flowing ~200gph at 3' head with plumbing) it'll approach siphon then flush and back off.

Can you make it a herbie?

Auston · 12/30/2015, 09:08 AM

Yes I have the prefilter. Yes I have a ball valve on my return. I understand about the pump not really pumping as much at 3 feet. One thing that may play a factor would be my box is not 100% level.

Auston · 12/30/2015, 09:12 AM

Sorry I'm not really familiar with Herbie set ups

chimmike · 12/30/2015, 09:23 AM

google herbie overflow or search on here. Quiet, safe, flows a lot.

could be your overflow is outrunning your return pump? Don't know.

CStrickland · 12/30/2015, 10:44 AM

Idk if there's room in an eshopps for a herbie to not vortex. There are mods though, people put little stockmans or hofer gurgle busters I think. Just keep googling eshopps silencers and trying diff ones, they are easy to put together from cheap PVC.

I wouldn't ever restrict a single drain.

Auston · 12/30/2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chimmike

google herbie overflow or search on here. Quiet, safe, flows a lot.

could be your overflow is outrunning your return pump? Don't know.

That's what it seems like

Auston · 12/30/2015, 11:42 AM

With the eshopps overflow it came with a small piece of pvc. I want to make sure I did this right by glueing it to the bulkhead on top.

Auston · 12/30/2015, 11:43 AM

Like fitting it to the top inlet of the bulkhead

Genera · 12/30/2015, 12:05 PM

Silent

splix · 12/30/2015, 04:21 PM

Mine are silent, but I designed them myself. I didnt want a big overflow box. I have 2x 1" drains both limited to a perfect siphon and my return is a 1" DC pump. These are almost (except for maybe a tiny baby) proof. I've had turbos on them, blue star on them and nothing was off. They stick out of the surface so they will skim the stuff on top of the water.

bchap05 · 12/30/2015, 04:25 PM

I have the smaller eshopps on my 65 and I can't hear it.

Auston · 12/30/2015, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchap05

I have the smaller eshopps on my 65 and I can't hear it.

The pvc that came with it is glued into the bulkhead right?

Auston · 12/30/2015, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splix

Mine are silent, but I designed them myself. I didnt want a big overflow box. I have 2x 1" drains both limited to a perfect siphon and my return is a 1" DC pump. These are almost (except for maybe a tiny baby) proof. I've had turbos on them, blue star on them and nothing was off. They stick out of the surface so they will skim the stuff on top of the water.

So pretty

bchap05 · 12/30/2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Auston

The pvc that came with it is glued into the bulkhead right?

I don't remember. I don't remember anything being glued to the bulkhead though. I already had a hose from another box that I bought used that didn't work. That hose didn't fit quite right on the Eshopps so I bought a piece of PVC that match and glued it on.

chimmike · 12/30/2015, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splix

Mine are silent, but I designed them myself. I didnt want a big overflow box. I have 2x 1" drains both limited to a perfect siphon and my return is a 1" DC pump. These are almost (except for maybe a tiny baby) proof. I've had turbos on them, blue star on them and nothing was off. They stick out of the surface so they will skim the stuff on top of the water.

so wait...you have two 1" siphon drains? No non-siphon that can self-adjust for flow changes?

be careful...that setup could be ripe for a flood

ethuman · 12/30/2015, 07:05 PM

yes the piece of pvc that came with it slips inside the bulkhead and then the hose that came with it slips over top of that

Fish Keeper82 · 12/30/2015, 07:23 PM

I did a DIY silencer that i got the idea from this video.

https://youtu.be/m53EHw9gbMo

Works great. I had to put 2 extra holes on the top of the cap to make it even more quiet. I played with this design and finally came up with this. In my case i didnt need the valve on the airline (or the airline itself) super quiet. Been running with this since just about day one on this tank when i set it up in March. Im not sure if you have an over flow like mine or not i just skimmed through the posts.

12/30/2015, 06:19 AM	#1
Auston Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 338	How loud are you overflow boxs OMG this thing is ridiculous. My overflow is so loud. I have a single one inch drain on a eshopps overflow. The overflow seems well built, what it seems is the water level in the drain box is always right at the bottom. It's as if the drain is way ahead of my pump. It's a Rio 2100 600gph on a 5/8th line 3ft. Head. Are they always like this? Is there something I'm doing wrong?. I can't imagine anyone would ever use these if this is how they sound. It's like a kid sucking the last sip of milk through a straw from a ten gallon jug!

12/30/2015, 07:10 AM	#3
Syntax1325 Acro Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 598	Do you have a valve on your return line? Installing a ball valve, or better yet a gate valve, will give you precise control of the flow into the sump. However, without an emergency drain, I would hesitate in restricting that line. __________________ Back to halides and loving it! Current Tank Info: 180g sps dom, 40b sump, Reeflo Dart, Apex, Aquamaxx co2, Reefbrite mh/led pendants w/14k twinarcs, Kore 5th doser, Tunze ATO, Ranco controlling 800 watt Finnex tube, 2 Maxpect Gyre 150XF with Ice Cap Controllers and battery backup, Bean Animal drain

12/30/2015, 07:12 AM	#4
chimmike oxygen abuser Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 2	single durso won't ever be really quiet, but if it's getting too much flow (though I doubt it is, a rio 2100 at 600gph is with 0 head, you're probably flowing ~200gph at 3' head with plumbing) it'll approach siphon then flush and back off. Can you make it a herbie? __________________ -Mike Tankless wonder Geaux Noles!

12/30/2015, 09:23 AM	#7
chimmike oxygen abuser Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 2	google herbie overflow or search on here. Quiet, safe, flows a lot. could be your overflow is outrunning your return pump? Don't know. __________________ -Mike Tankless wonder Geaux Noles!

12/30/2015, 10:44 AM	#8
CStrickland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New England, U.S. Posts: 4,595	Idk if there's room in an eshopps for a herbie to not vortex. There are mods though, people put little stockmans or hofer gurgle busters I think. Just keep googling eshopps silencers and trying diff ones, they are easy to put together from cheap PVC. I wouldn't ever restrict a single drain. __________________ If you're havin tank problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but a fish ain't one Current Tank Info: 3/2016 upgrade to 120g. Chalk bass, melanurus, firefish, starry blenny, canary blenny, lyretail anthias, engineer gobys, kole tang. Softies / LPS / NPS. <3 noob4life <3

12/30/2015, 07:01 AM	#2
ethuman Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 194	do you have the foam prefilters in the back of the over flow set up?

12/30/2015, 09:08 AM	#5
Auston Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 338	Yes I have the prefilter. Yes I have a ball valve on my return. I understand about the pump not really pumping as much at 3 feet. One thing that may play a factor would be my box is not 100% level.

12/30/2015, 09:12 AM	#6
Auston Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 338	Sorry I'm not really familiar with Herbie set ups

12/30/2015, 11:42 AM	#10
Auston Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 338	With the eshopps overflow it came with a small piece of pvc. I want to make sure I did this right by glueing it to the bulkhead on top.

12/30/2015, 11:43 AM	#11
Auston Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 338	Like fitting it to the top inlet of the bulkhead

12/30/2015, 12:05 PM	#12
Genera Blink and you're dead. Join Date: May 2015 Location: MN Posts: 531	Silent __________________ Ah, Minnesota, The Land of 10,000 Lakes (Actually, there are 11,842 that are 10+ acres) Current Tank Info: n/a

12/30/2015, 04:21 PM	#13
splix Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 374	Mine are silent, but I designed them myself. I didnt want a big overflow box. I have 2x 1" drains both limited to a perfect siphon and my return is a 1" DC pump. These are almost (except for maybe a tiny baby) proof. I've had turbos on them, blue star on them and nothing was off. They stick out of the surface so they will skim the stuff on top of the water.

12/30/2015, 04:25 PM	#14
bchap05 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 89	I have the smaller eshopps on my 65 and I can't hear it.

12/30/2015, 07:05 PM	#19
ethuman Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 194	yes the piece of pvc that came with it slips inside the bulkhead and then the hose that came with it slips over top of that

12/30/2015, 07:23 PM	#20
Fish Keeper82 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 691	I did a DIY silencer that i got the idea from this video. https://youtu.be/m53EHw9gbMo Works great. I had to put 2 extra holes on the top of the cap to make it even more quiet. I played with this design and finally came up with this. In my case i didnt need the valve on the airline (or the airline itself) super quiet. Been running with this since just about day one on this tank when i set it up in March. Im not sure if you have an over flow like mine or not i just skimmed through the posts. Last edited by Fish Keeper82; 12/30/2015 at 07:36 PM.