3 fish I will never buy again ! 😡

Ogi · 04/29/2016, 04:44 AM

1. Coral beauty - always fleeing at the sight of people, after months of peace it flipped killed 3 fish and starting feasting on my corals.

2. Bicolour blenny - this little dude is either constantly hiding or rearranging any coral frag it can.

3. Royal gramma - he constantly hides, super terrorism to all fish in the tank and absolutely loves to cover my corals in sand.

All three where sparsely seen unless it was feeding time when they were all pigs and got along, my two cents, this is the second time I've had to pull my tank to catch a fish 👆🏾

MichelleMas · 04/29/2016, 07:48 AM

How long did you have the Blenny. Mine took over a month to get completely comfortable now he is always out. He does like to throw things around but he's my favorite.

Coral Beauty do like to nibble on corals. Not completely reef safe.

I've never had a Royal Gramma but thanks for informing me about him

juniorrocketdad · 04/29/2016, 08:24 AM

My bicolor was my first fish so it may have something to do with that but he is always out and I have never seen him throw things other than occasional mouthfuls of sand

mmittlesteadt · 04/29/2016, 08:34 AM

I have a Coral Beauty, Royal Gramma and while I have a Lawnmower Blenny, I also have a Diamond Watchman Goby that does all kinds of massive landscaping with the sand. I love them all and they are great tankmates for all the others too.

Fish are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna find.

nicoleah · 04/29/2016, 09:47 AM

I have an ocellaris clown, a royal gramma, and a yellow watchman goby in my 120. The clown always stays within the RBTAs except to dart out a short distance to nab food. I absolutely love my royal gramma! She's always out and "begging" for food. She makes territorial "big mouth" at the goby every once in a while but he mostly sticks to the right-lower strata of the tank where his pistol shrimp lives. It's pretty amusing to see them square off at each other but none of my fish have damaged each other. The gramma has never bothered anything else in the tank, either.

YMMV...

mfaso24 · 04/29/2016, 10:12 AM

My bicolor blenny decided it was cool to takes bites out of my sps... Needless to say he was kicked out

Also had a problem with a flame angel nipping. But other than that I've never had a problem with the royal gramma.

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Thomeski · 04/29/2016, 12:18 PM

I love it when my royal gramma dose a big mouth to my hawk, no provlems with it too

MMacro · 04/29/2016, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogi

1. Coral beauty - always fleeing at the sight of people, after months of peace it flipped killed 3 fish and starting feasting on my corals.

2. Bicolour blenny - this little dude is either constantly hiding or rearranging any coral frag it can.

3. Royal gramma - he constantly hides, super terrorism to all fish in the tank and absolutely loves to cover my corals in sand.

All three where sparsely seen unless it was feeding time when they were all pigs and got along, my two cents, this is the second time I've had to pull my tank to catch a fish 👆🏾

How big of a tank was the coral beauty in? They can go roque if not properly housed. Blennies spend most, if not all of their time in rockwork, it is perfectly normal. This may also be due to more agressive fish scaring it away.

Ogi · 04/29/2016, 05:04 PM

They were all housed together for months, the bicolour killed two of my sps from the nibbling, it's a 40 gallon cube, slightly tight, the problem with my gramma was it wouldnt ever flash it mouth or threaten, it would literally just attack other fish.

BigEZ77 · 04/29/2016, 08:17 PM

Interesting to hear your experiences. May affect my stocking decisions.

polaravic · 04/29/2016, 09:22 PM

My Bicolour Blenny ate my corals as well.

So did my Coral Beauty. I went away one weekend only to come back with half the corals almost dead.

My Royal Gramma was a model citizen.

polaravic

spdjnky · 04/30/2016, 12:23 PM

Our Royal Gramma is great in our 75gal
Many its just your tank size

PatW · 04/30/2016, 12:39 PM

My royal gramma has been a good fish. But he is in alarge tank.

davocean · 04/30/2016, 01:24 PM

Royal gramma is almost always a good citizen

Cliving1 · 04/30/2016, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmittlesteadt

I have a Coral Beauty, Royal Gramma and while I have a Lawnmower Blenny, I also have a Diamond Watchman Goby that does all kinds of massive landscaping with the sand. I love them all and they are great tankmates for all the others too.

Fish are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna find.

You never know what your going to GET.

Lol

Timfish · 04/30/2016, 06:25 PM

I gotta have more details on your setup and how long you've been keeping reef systems. I've have all three of those fish and none of your complaints. Are they always out in the middle of the tank? No, but it doesn't take long for them to show up.

Sk8r · 04/30/2016, 06:31 PM

I've kept blennies in general with no problem. The bicolor is an odd one---a combtooth blenny that mimics a fang blenny, (others don't) but it also comes with quite a few cautions about nippishness, so the 'fang' imitiation apparently extends beyond appearances. I'd say you'd be fine with other combtooth blennies, but maybe not the bicolor.

Never had any problem with the gramma. Angels of any sort, however, are apt to go rogue with your corals with not much warning. So apparently, can foxfaces...if the experience of my lfs is a guide: longtime resident foxface took to munching euphyllia.

eastlake · 04/30/2016, 08:36 PM

I wonder if you didn't end up with a Brazilian gramma instead of a royal gramma. They look incredibly similar and can be very agresive in comparison to the Royal. I have two male royals in my 150 and they're great, never jerks to each other or new additions.

bat21 · 04/30/2016, 10:22 PM

My gramma did the open mouth thing many times. Seemed goofy and harmless. Last week though he attacked a clownfish pretty violently (The only fish that was in the tank longer than the gramma) Clownfish is fine. But my opinion of the gramma has totally changed now that I know he's capable of that. Still deciding what to do, if anything.

And I know mine is not Brazilian.

Scottshopinc · 04/30/2016, 10:42 PM

Yeah, fish are like people they all have different personality.

heathlindner25 · 05/01/2016, 06:49 AM

I'll never buy a red-tailed Tamarin again

Bent · 05/01/2016, 07:58 AM

I'll never buy another blue ribbon eel.

dendrite · 05/01/2016, 08:14 AM

Porcupine puffer in a FOWLR tank killed every fish he could catch. A diamond back goby impossibly rearranged the sand eventually covering all corals on the sand until I fished him out, and an Eibli Angel that eventually killed every open brain or scoly I put in the tank. Thousands of dollars worth. Try as I might I can't get him out of the reef tank. My mistake was putting him in the tank in the first place and listening to those that said reef safe. The only problem I've had with a bicolor is that mine like to rest on or among the corals and damage them that way. They are supposed to be algae eaters but I haven't seen it.

Bent · 05/01/2016, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dendrite

Porcupine puffer in a FOWLR tank killed every fish he could catch. A diamond back goby impossibly rearranged the sand eventually covering all corals on the sand until I fished him out, and an Eibli Angel that eventually killed every open brain or scoly I put in the tank. Thousands of dollars worth. Try as I might I can't get him out of the reef tank. My mistake was putting him in the tank in the first place and listening to those that said reef safe. The only problem I've had with a bicolor is that mine like to rest on or among the corals and damage them that way. They are supposed to be algae eaters but I haven't seen it.

What size tank was the porky in? They are known to be aggressive in confined spaces. In larger tanks 200g and above, I've heard they are model citizens.

WaReefer458 · 05/01/2016, 10:20 AM

My repeat offenders I'll never have again is a Hawaiian blue spot puffer, Kole tang, and any pseudo chromis. The chromis attacked fish 5 times his size. The Kole tang got super aggressive and attacked any other algae eaters in my tank. The puffer which I was told by my Lfs to be reef safe over 10 years ago, ate a $300 derasa clam I'd had for years. I'll never forgive him for that. Lol

04/29/2016, 04:44 AM	#1
Ogi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 197	3 fish I will never buy again ! 😡 1. Coral beauty - always fleeing at the sight of people, after months of peace it flipped killed 3 fish and starting feasting on my corals. 2. Bicolour blenny - this little dude is either constantly hiding or rearranging any coral frag it can. 3. Royal gramma - he constantly hides, super terrorism to all fish in the tank and absolutely loves to cover my corals in sand. All three where sparsely seen unless it was feeding time when they were all pigs and got along, my two cents, this is the second time I've had to pull my tank to catch a fish 👆🏾

04/29/2016, 08:34 AM	#4
mmittlesteadt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Rothschild, WI Posts: 1,209	I have a Coral Beauty, Royal Gramma and while I have a Lawnmower Blenny, I also have a Diamond Watchman Goby that does all kinds of massive landscaping with the sand. I love them all and they are great tankmates for all the others too. Fish are like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna find. __________________ Every life on this planet deserve respect, no matter how small or insignificant it may appear at first glance. 40 Gallon Build Thread - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2486801 Current Tank Info: 40 Gallon Breeder, Eshopps PSK-100, Kessil A160WE, 70 lbs. rock, 65 gallon sump, 27 gallon refugium

04/29/2016, 09:47 AM	#5
nicoleah SLASH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 479	I have an ocellaris clown, a royal gramma, and a yellow watchman goby in my 120. The clown always stays within the RBTAs except to dart out a short distance to nab food. I absolutely love my royal gramma! She's always out and "begging" for food. She makes territorial "big mouth" at the goby every once in a while but he mostly sticks to the right-lower strata of the tank where his pistol shrimp lives. It's pretty amusing to see them square off at each other but none of my fish have damaged each other. The gramma has never bothered anything else in the tank, either. YMMV... __________________ - Nikki __________________________________________________________________________ 60 cube started 06/18/17 - Radion XR30 Gen3 Pro - Vectra M1 Return - VorTech MP40

04/29/2016, 10:12 AM	#6
mfaso24 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 800	3 fish I will never buy again ! 😡 My bicolor blenny decided it was cool to takes bites out of my sps... Needless to say he was kicked out Also had a problem with a flame angel nipping. But other than that I've never had a problem with the royal gramma. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04/29/2016, 08:17 PM	#10
BigEZ77 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ottawa ON Canada Posts: 797	Interesting to hear your experiences. May affect my stocking decisions. __________________ Russell Banggai / Yellow Wrasse / Black Ice and Davinci Clowns / Flame Angel / Royal Gramma / Blue Chromis / LPS (dominated) / Monti's / Softies / BTA's Current Tank Info: 45G Rimless, Tunze 9004, Kessil A160WE, Gyre XF130, 50lbs rock, Reef Crystals, Phosguard in reactor, Matrix, Chemipure Blue and NP XL biopellets in sump

04/29/2016, 07:48 AM	#2
MichelleMas Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 76	How long did you have the Blenny. Mine took over a month to get completely comfortable now he is always out. He does like to throw things around but he's my favorite. Coral Beauty do like to nibble on corals. Not completely reef safe. I've never had a Royal Gramma but thanks for informing me about him

04/29/2016, 08:24 AM	#3
juniorrocketdad Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 733	My bicolor was my first fish so it may have something to do with that but he is always out and I have never seen him throw things other than occasional mouthfuls of sand

04/29/2016, 12:18 PM	#7
Thomeski Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 21	I love it when my royal gramma dose a big mouth to my hawk, no provlems with it too

04/29/2016, 05:04 PM	#9
Ogi Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 197	They were all housed together for months, the bicolour killed two of my sps from the nibbling, it's a 40 gallon cube, slightly tight, the problem with my gramma was it wouldnt ever flash it mouth or threaten, it would literally just attack other fish.

04/29/2016, 09:22 PM	#11
polaravic Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 74	My Bicolour Blenny ate my corals as well. So did my Coral Beauty. I went away one weekend only to come back with half the corals almost dead. My Royal Gramma was a model citizen. polaravic

04/30/2016, 12:23 PM	#12
spdjnky Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Schenectady,NY Posts: 165	Our Royal Gramma is great in our 75gal Many its just your tank size

04/30/2016, 12:39 PM	#13
PatW Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 275	My royal gramma has been a good fish. But he is in alarge tank.

04/30/2016, 01:24 PM	#14
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	Royal gramma is almost always a good citizen __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

04/30/2016, 06:25 PM	#16
Timfish Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,985	I gotta have more details on your setup and how long you've been keeping reef systems. I've have all three of those fish and none of your complaints. Are they always out in the middle of the tank? No, but it doesn't take long for them to show up. __________________ "Our crystal clear aquaria come nowhere close to the nutrient loads that swirl around natural reefs" Charles Delbeek

04/30/2016, 06:31 PM	#17
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I've kept blennies in general with no problem. The bicolor is an odd one---a combtooth blenny that mimics a fang blenny, (others don't) but it also comes with quite a few cautions about nippishness, so the 'fang' imitiation apparently extends beyond appearances. I'd say you'd be fine with other combtooth blennies, but maybe not the bicolor. Never had any problem with the gramma. Angels of any sort, however, are apt to go rogue with your corals with not much warning. So apparently, can foxfaces...if the experience of my lfs is a guide: longtime resident foxface took to munching euphyllia. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

04/30/2016, 08:36 PM	#18
eastlake Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: willoughby Posts: 648	I wonder if you didn't end up with a Brazilian gramma instead of a royal gramma. They look incredibly similar and can be very agresive in comparison to the Royal. I have two male royals in my 150 and they're great, never jerks to each other or new additions.

04/30/2016, 10:22 PM	#19
bat21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 701	My gramma did the open mouth thing many times. Seemed goofy and harmless. Last week though he attacked a clownfish pretty violently (The only fish that was in the tank longer than the gramma) Clownfish is fine. But my opinion of the gramma has totally changed now that I know he's capable of that. Still deciding what to do, if anything. And I know mine is not Brazilian. __________________ --- Current Tank Info: 65g fowlr

04/30/2016, 10:42 PM	#20
Scottshopinc Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Oxford, NC Posts: 84	Yeah, fish are like people they all have different personality.

05/01/2016, 06:49 AM	#21
heathlindner25 Moved On Join Date: May 2012 Location: flowery branch georgia Posts: 3,644	I'll never buy a red-tailed Tamarin again

05/01/2016, 07:58 AM	#22
Bent I got nothin' Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The anals Posts: 6,420	I'll never buy another blue ribbon eel. __________________ Quitters never lose. [QUOTE=CStrickland]Who gets mad at a starfish?[/QUOTE] Current Tank Info: 75g DT, 30G refugium, 10g chaeto tank, 50g stock tank basement sump

05/01/2016, 08:14 AM	#23
dendrite Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: denver Posts: 493	Porcupine puffer in a FOWLR tank killed every fish he could catch. A diamond back goby impossibly rearranged the sand eventually covering all corals on the sand until I fished him out, and an Eibli Angel that eventually killed every open brain or scoly I put in the tank. Thousands of dollars worth. Try as I might I can't get him out of the reef tank. My mistake was putting him in the tank in the first place and listening to those that said reef safe. The only problem I've had with a bicolor is that mine like to rest on or among the corals and damage them that way. They are supposed to be algae eaters but I haven't seen it.

05/01/2016, 10:20 AM	#25
WaReefer458 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 333	My repeat offenders I'll never have again is a Hawaiian blue spot puffer, Kole tang, and any pseudo chromis. The chromis attacked fish 5 times his size. The Kole tang got super aggressive and attacked any other algae eaters in my tank. The puffer which I was told by my Lfs to be reef safe over 10 years ago, ate a $300 derasa clam I'd had for years. I'll never forgive him for that. Lol