Fish Suggestions?

malx · 11/23/2016, 02:18 AM

Hi, All.

I have my 55 gallon up and nutrient poor stable (I run ZEOVit) and I'm looking to add some fish to it. Lookin to max out around 8-10 fish. Here's my current livestock list. What suggestions does everyone have of some nice fish that will get along? Right now all of my fish are happy and treating each other well. Here's what is currently in there:

Fireball Angel
2x Cinnamon Clowns
Royal Gramma
Yellow Watchman Goby
Snails
Pom Pom Crab
Emerald Crab
Randall's Pistol Shrimp

Let me know!
Joey

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oneofmany · 11/23/2016, 02:36 AM

Maybe stick with what you have? If those clowns ever decide to pair up that tank will get a lot smaller in a hurry. Both that Angel and the Gramma can hold their own, but when it really boils down to it that tank has been cut into three. Those Clownfish might rule them all...

malx · 11/23/2016, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oneofmany

Maybe stick with what you have? If those clowns ever decide to pair up that tank will get a lot smaller in a hurry.

They are already paired.

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oneofmany · 11/23/2016, 02:39 AM

Too quick on the draw perhaps?

malx · 11/23/2016, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oneofmany

Too quick on the draw perhaps?

What do you mean? The only thing the clowns bother at the moment is me when I stick my hand in the tank haha.

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oneofmany · 11/23/2016, 02:41 AM

Aren't those Cinnamon clowns almost twice the size of an Ocellaris? Do the math...

malx · 11/23/2016, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by oneofmany

Aren't those Cinnamon clowns almost twice the size of an Ocellaris? Do the math...

Not at the moment. I got them as babies. Will take a few years for them to reach 3" and by that time I'll probably upgrade.

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oneofmany · 11/23/2016, 02:57 AM

Those Clownfish are no joke, especially when they pair up. Some fish have a pass, others don't. Relentless harassment.... GL.

scooter31707 · 11/23/2016, 08:27 AM

Cinnamons are a close second behind the Maroon for as aggression. They are very capable of taking over that whole tank. Also may want to be watchful of that Angel. IME, they can be jerks also.

malx · 11/23/2016, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter31707

Cinnamons are a close second behind the Maroon for as aggression. They are very capable of taking over that whole tank. Also may want to be watchful of that Angel. IME, they can be jerks also.

Maybe I got lucky. Either way no one has any other suggestions aside from how much my current fish are jerks?

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fscmocsaj · 11/23/2016, 12:55 PM

People can be jerks huh. Anyways, in a 55 I would stock an engineer goby, Bangaii Cardinals, Midas blenny or starry blenny, 6 line wrasse, and a flame hawkfish.

Didn't really answer your question on what to stock on top of what you currently have... I just wrote the fish I would put In a 55... Hope this helps you a little bit

malx · 11/23/2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fscmocsaj

People can be jerks huh. Anyways, in a 55 I would stock an engineer goby, Bangaii Cardinals, Midas blenny or starry blenny, 6 line wrasse, and a flame hawkfish.

Didn't really answer your question on what to stock on top of what you currently have... I just wrote the fish I would put In a 55... Hope this helps you a little bit

it does thanks. Wouldn't a flame hawk go after the crab?

Fish Friend · 11/23/2016, 02:29 PM

Wow, stunning combination, it sounds like the colours of your fishes are really great.

When I started saltwater keeping, I was sure I wanted colourful livestock, as I love lively colours.

Then I met my favorites fish.

It was undernourished, had debris stuck in one gill and fin rot had taken the bottom of its fins of, it didn't seem to be growing back.

I tried to save that fish (managed to remove the debris, it seemed happy for that) but it did not live long unfortunately. But I fell in love with it and now I keep a tank dedicated to a pair of clownfish pandas and a host anemone.

My personal choice with a tank like yours, would be to let the clownfishes own the territory and get a second tank and get more there

Clowns are very territorial and will spend more time standing guard at their safe spots if you add more. If they are free to own the tank, you will see much more playful clown socialising.

I am unsure if your clowns complete much with the goby. If they do fine, you could go for another watchman. If they disprove as they grow, it might result in sandwars tho, so perhaps that is not such a good idea anyway.

Since it looks as if you are doing good, I am sure you will keep making great choices

fscmocsaj · 11/23/2016, 02:45 PM

Most likely your Pom Pom and maybe the pistol shrimp but my friend houses one with a pistol and emerald crabs and he doesn't go after them. Maybe because he keeps him well fed. Are you looking for fish that are purely for aesthetics or ones that will benefit your tank in some way shape or form?

Also for another suggestion if it is possible I would try to return the cinnamon clowns and royal gamma to your LFS to get a "better suited" fish. Not trying to tell you what to do but people are right about those clowns they are vicious and personally the royal are my least favorite fish...

Hawk fish and blennies are by far my favorite type of fish. They have the best personalities.

devimik · 11/23/2016, 02:46 PM

I'd try a Fairy Wrasse possibly or an Orange Tail Filefish.

malx · 11/25/2016, 02:40 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. What about chromis? Anyone down for that?

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malx · 11/25/2016, 03:01 PM

Ok guys. I went to the store and this is what we came up with as options. A fairy wrasse, 3 chromis, ruby red dragon. Let me know what you guys think of these options. FYI I keep my tank well fed.

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shifty51008 · 11/25/2016, 06:03 PM

the chromis may be fine but usually pick each other off till your down to 1 left. the ruby red dragon needs live pods, some will accept frozen and pellet foods but they really need pods to survive long term IMO. a pair a cardinals would work good also and maybe a blenny.

malx · 11/25/2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shifty51008

the chromis may be fine but usually pick each other off till your down to 1 left. the ruby red dragon needs live pods, some will accept frozen and pellet foods but they really need pods to survive long term IMO. a pair a cardinals would work good also and maybe a blenny.

Ok so I'm gunna settle on one PJ, one Chromis, and one Red Dragon. I'm willing to feed the tank live pods that's not an issue.

Thanks everyone for the advice!!

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anthonys51 · 11/25/2016, 07:44 PM

i love fairy wrasse, they swim around all day and never bother anyone. not sure if the clowns will bully them, i never had cin only oct clowns. but you need a cover fairy wrasses will jump. also dont get a 6 line wrasse they have napoleon complex. my lfs doesnt ever sell them or sohal tangs, say they are too nasty

malx · 11/26/2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonys51

i love fairy wrasse, they swim around all day and never bother anyone. not sure if the clowns will bully them, i never had cin only oct clowns. but you need a cover fairy wrasses will jump. also dont get a 6 line wrasse they have napoleon complex. my lfs doesnt ever sell them or sohal tangs, say they are too nasty

Good tips. I'm gunna skip the wrasse because I can't easily put a top on my tank.

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malx · 11/30/2016, 10:58 AM

It's funny everyone is talking about how aggressive my clownfish and gramma are but this morning they were all hanging swimming around my tank together in the same circle. I go over to my QT tank and find my PJ cardinal bullying the crap out of the other one and the Blue-Green Chromis.

He's going back to the store tomorrow.

scooter31707 · 11/30/2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by malx

It's funny everyone is talking about how aggressive my clownfish and gramma are but this morning they were all hanging swimming around my tank together in the same circle. I go over to my QT tank and find my PJ cardinal bullying the crap out of the other one and the Blue-Green Chromis.

He's going back to the store tomorrow.

Give them time, you will start to see a difference as they mature or if they become a bonded pair and start breeding.

malx · 12/01/2016, 05:16 PM

What do you guys thing of a Midas Blenny?

marleesan · 12/01/2016, 06:53 PM

I recommend against the red ruby dragonet as they are pod eaters and need thousands of pods a day. Unless you have a huge sump the dragonet will likely starve

11/23/2016, 02:18 AM	#1
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Fish Suggestions? Hi, All. I have my 55 gallon up and nutrient poor stable (I run ZEOVit) and I'm looking to add some fish to it. Lookin to max out around 8-10 fish. Here's my current livestock list. What suggestions does everyone have of some nice fish that will get along? Right now all of my fish are happy and treating each other well. Here's what is currently in there: Fireball Angel 2x Cinnamon Clowns Royal Gramma Yellow Watchman Goby Snails Pom Pom Crab Emerald Crab Randall's Pistol Shrimp Let me know! Joey Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/23/2016, 12:55 PM	#11
fscmocsaj Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 752	People can be jerks huh. Anyways, in a 55 I would stock an engineer goby, Bangaii Cardinals, Midas blenny or starry blenny, 6 line wrasse, and a flame hawkfish. Didn't really answer your question on what to stock on top of what you currently have... I just wrote the fish I would put In a 55... Hope this helps you a little bit __________________ Red Sea 170- Acro dominant Current Tank Info: Red Sea 170

11/23/2016, 02:45 PM	#14
fscmocsaj Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 752	Most likely your Pom Pom and maybe the pistol shrimp but my friend houses one with a pistol and emerald crabs and he doesn't go after them. Maybe because he keeps him well fed. Are you looking for fish that are purely for aesthetics or ones that will benefit your tank in some way shape or form? Also for another suggestion if it is possible I would try to return the cinnamon clowns and royal gamma to your LFS to get a "better suited" fish. Not trying to tell you what to do but people are right about those clowns they are vicious and personally the royal are my least favorite fish... Hawk fish and blennies are by far my favorite type of fish. They have the best personalities. __________________ Red Sea 170- Acro dominant Current Tank Info: Red Sea 170

11/23/2016, 02:46 PM	#15
devimik Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: KC, KS Posts: 637	I'd try a Fairy Wrasse possibly or an Orange Tail Filefish. __________________ Mike D Coral Beauty, Green Filefish, One Spot Foxface, Springeri Dottyback, 2 Ocellaris Clowns, Yellow Watchman Goby, Flame Hawkfish, Spotted Mandarin Current Tank Info: 90g Softie Reef, 150# live rock, 30g sump w/refugium, Tunze Osmolator 3155 ATO, Octopus NWB 150 Skimmer, Mag 950 return, Maxspect 120w Razor 10K LED light X2, BRS Phosphate Reactor; Apex Lite

11/25/2016, 06:03 PM	#18
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	the chromis may be fine but usually pick each other off till your down to 1 left. the ruby red dragon needs live pods, some will accept frozen and pellet foods but they really need pods to survive long term IMO. a pair a cardinals would work good also and maybe a blenny. __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

11/23/2016, 02:36 AM	#2
oneofmany In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 151	Maybe stick with what you have? If those clowns ever decide to pair up that tank will get a lot smaller in a hurry. Both that Angel and the Gramma can hold their own, but when it really boils down to it that tank has been cut into three. Those Clownfish might rule them all...

11/23/2016, 02:39 AM	#4
oneofmany In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 151	Too quick on the draw perhaps?

11/23/2016, 02:41 AM	#6
oneofmany In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 151	Aren't those Cinnamon clowns almost twice the size of an Ocellaris? Do the math...

11/23/2016, 02:57 AM	#8
oneofmany In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: California Posts: 151	Those Clownfish are no joke, especially when they pair up. Some fish have a pass, others don't. Relentless harassment.... GL.

11/23/2016, 08:27 AM	#9
scooter31707 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 4,971	Cinnamons are a close second behind the Maroon for as aggression. They are very capable of taking over that whole tank. Also may want to be watchful of that Angel. IME, they can be jerks also.

11/23/2016, 02:29 PM	#13
Fish Friend Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 96	Wow, stunning combination, it sounds like the colours of your fishes are really great. When I started saltwater keeping, I was sure I wanted colourful livestock, as I love lively colours. Then I met my favorites fish. It was undernourished, had debris stuck in one gill and fin rot had taken the bottom of its fins of, it didn't seem to be growing back. I tried to save that fish (managed to remove the debris, it seemed happy for that) but it did not live long unfortunately. But I fell in love with it and now I keep a tank dedicated to a pair of clownfish pandas and a host anemone. My personal choice with a tank like yours, would be to let the clownfishes own the territory and get a second tank and get more there Clowns are very territorial and will spend more time standing guard at their safe spots if you add more. If they are free to own the tank, you will see much more playful clown socialising. I am unsure if your clowns complete much with the goby. If they do fine, you could go for another watchman. If they disprove as they grow, it might result in sandwars tho, so perhaps that is not such a good idea anyway. Since it looks as if you are doing good, I am sure you will keep making great choices

11/25/2016, 02:40 PM	#16
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Thanks for the suggestion. What about chromis? Anyone down for that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/25/2016, 03:01 PM	#17
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	Ok guys. I went to the store and this is what we came up with as options. A fairy wrasse, 3 chromis, ruby red dragon. Let me know what you guys think of these options. FYI I keep my tank well fed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/25/2016, 07:44 PM	#20
anthonys51 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kings Park, NY Posts: 2,789	i love fairy wrasse, they swim around all day and never bother anyone. not sure if the clowns will bully them, i never had cin only oct clowns. but you need a cover fairy wrasses will jump. also dont get a 6 line wrasse they have napoleon complex. my lfs doesnt ever sell them or sohal tangs, say they are too nasty

11/30/2016, 10:58 AM	#22
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	It's funny everyone is talking about how aggressive my clownfish and gramma are but this morning they were all hanging swimming around my tank together in the same circle. I go over to my QT tank and find my PJ cardinal bullying the crap out of the other one and the Blue-Green Chromis. He's going back to the store tomorrow.

12/01/2016, 05:16 PM	#24
malx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,324	What do you guys thing of a Midas Blenny?

12/01/2016, 06:53 PM	#25
marleesan Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 327	I recommend against the red ruby dragonet as they are pod eaters and need thousands of pods a day. Unless you have a huge sump the dragonet will likely starve __________________ 90 gallon FOWLR Valentini puffer, ocellaris clown, cherub angelfish, flametail blenny, falco hawkfish, green wrasse 180 gallon reef: starry blenny, yellowtail damsel