Turbo snails top heavy?

[ladynavyvet]

I've been having a issue with keeping snails going in my reef tank for long(sometimes only weeks), the most recent group of 4 seem as if they're so top heavy they can't stay sunny side up. I'm constantly finding them upside down, either on the rockscape, or the sand. If I set them back on their foot side, next thing you know their shell down again! Ive had some that were big, close to 2 inches across, and hardly had any problems, any ideas about how to help them? The water parameters are salinity 1.025
Ammonia .00ppm
Nitrites.00ppm
pH 8.25ppm
I don't have the test for calcium, or alkalinity.

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[mcgyvr]

Yep.. Turbo snails cannot self right themselves like some other snails can..

Many times though if its happening quite often that means the snail is getting old and will likely not make it too much longer..

How big is the tank?
Is there plenty of food (algae) for them?

[ladynavyvet]

Originally Posted by mcgyvr

Yep.. Turbo snails cannot self right themselves like some other snails can..

Many times though if its happening quite often that means the snail is getting old and will likely not make it too much longer..

How big is the tank?
Is there plenty of food (algae) for them?

40 gallons, and plenty of algae for them. It's frustrating when i just purchased them last Friday. Now my tinny tiny hermit crabs are going strong, I guess I'll be getting more of them to keep the algae growth on the rockscape, and I'll have to keep it off the glass. Its almost a shame that all the eggs they've laid are not going to hatch out.

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[ladynavyvet]

Quick question about the little hermit crabs, will they find their own new shells amongst what's worked up through the sand, or do i need to get some at my lfs?

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[Ryan Darilek]

I would try another type of snail that can flip itself over. And yes, it's worth picking up a few extra larger shells to prevent them from going after each other or your snails for new real-estate

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[ladynavyvet]

Which species of the marine snails can do that, I thought they all were the same in this regard?

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[der_wille_zur_macht]

Pretty much all of the common cleanup crew snails other than turbo snails can right themselves.

Check out a place like reefcleaners.org - even if you don't order from them, they have fairly accurate and honest descriptions of different snail species in terms of their behaviors and diets.

[reefer roman]

Maybe you have a fish who keeps picking at them .

[ladynavyvet]

Originally Posted by der_wille_zur_macht

Pretty much all of the common cleanup crew snails other than turbo snails can right themselves.

Check out a place like reefcleaners.org - even if you don't order from them, they have fairly accurate and honest descriptions of different snail species in terms of their behaviors and diets.

Thanks ☺

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[sde1500]

astrea turbo snails live in very rocky environments, where if they fall there is usually a rock right nearby to grab on. Not like most of our aquariums. Hence our need to constantly pick them up. I had about 4 when I first started my tank. Seemed I was righting them every other day. Finally said "natural selection suckers" and stopped. 1 made it over a year longer before becoming hermit food. The rest didn't make it long. I wont bother with them again, urchins are so much better at algae.

[der_wille_zur_macht]

Originally Posted by sde1500

natural selection

That's basically my approach to cleanup crews. Start with a reasonable quantity and a good variety, and don't worry about it. If a specific type of snail isn't going to thrive in my tank, fine by me. I don't try to solve algae or other nuisance problems with cleaners.

[Ryan Darilek]

Cerith or Nassarius

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[ladynavyvet]

Originally Posted by Ryan Darilek

Cerith or Nassarius

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I was just looking at both of them.

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[mcgyvr]

And FYI... In a normal (fairly algae free system) 4 turbo snails is WAY too many for only 40G..
2 max.. and really 1 is plenty..

And absolutely purchase from reefcleaners.org great place.. great deals.,etc..

[ladynavyvet]

Ok, thanks.

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[Gweeds]

I'd fully endorse tuxedo urchins. They are awesome at eating anything, algae wise, aren't destructive like other urchins, really hardy, can right themselves and are pretty to boot. The only downside is that they occasionally wander off with a frag stuck to them if it isn't glued down. I've got 3 in my 320g, no snails other than 4 nass to keep sand turned over and only 6 hermits. They do a great job eating any algae which might crop up. Just one in a 40 would be enough.

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[JonezNReef]

I have a 180 with 1 turbo and I am not sure if I want to get another with as much as the one eats. If you want a good snail that can flip its self over spend the little extra per snail and get Turban Snails (Tectus fenestratus). I will never get a astrea snail again thats for sure

[ladynavyvet]

Thanks to all, I'll look into the tuxedo urchins, and the Turban snails.

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