Clean up crew

jar41 · 07/01/2017, 04:42 PM

Hi Could you guys recommend me some clean up crew? I have 58 gallon plus 20 sump.Currently have Urchin,2 shrimps(Red and Cleaner),Red Leg Crab,few snails-probably 4-5 total.What do i miss? THX

Ps Yes,it's reef tank

Snarky Shark · 07/01/2017, 04:48 PM

I like a few blue hermits as well.

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jar41 · 07/01/2017, 04:51 PM

Ok, i have been checking Liveaquaria and their amount is scaring me....Is that many necessary?

\Clownfish/ · 07/01/2017, 05:06 PM

Check out reefcleaners.com

John is a great guy. His info fill out page is great. Just instert your tanks info and he will reach out to you with what he recommends. Great prices too. In my opinion liveaquaria is very pricey.

abrooks12376 · 07/01/2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by \Clownfish/

Check out reefcleaners.com

John is a great guy. His info fill out page is great. Just instead your tank info and he will reach out to you with what he recommends. Great prices too. In my opinion liveaquaria is very pricey.

Agreed, extremely great customer service and pricing

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AlSimmons · 07/01/2017, 05:24 PM

You've already got plenty IMO. Don't forget YOUR the CUC member that tank will ever see.

Ryan Darilek · 07/02/2017, 12:51 AM

They recommend 1 CUC member per gallon of water... Seems a bit excessive to me, but I went with one of the liveaquaria packs and they are all doing well (have about 15 hermits, a Nassarius, 2 turbos, 2 emerald crabs, 5 smaller snails, a cleaner shrimp in my 32BC)

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laugh · 07/02/2017, 06:56 AM

Do yourself a favor and skip the crabs. They will just eat each other and your snails.

gabloo · 07/03/2017, 06:57 PM

I would rather get dwarf hermit crabs. Big one will eat snails

heathlindner25 · 07/03/2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by laugh

Do yourself a favor and skip the crabs. They will just eat each other and your snails.

I would listen to the man with big ears.

jar41 · 07/03/2017, 08:50 PM

Thx everyone for help! I am fighting with GHA so thought about increasing CUC.Maybe i just wait a bit,few water changes and than see what's going to happen.

Joe0813 · 07/03/2017, 09:21 PM

I will never get hermit crabs ever again. they wipe out my snails all the time and steal the shells... even though I put bigger shells into the tank for the crabs to switch to

laugh · 07/03/2017, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gabloo

I would rather get dwarf hermit crabs. Big one will eat snails

No. The little ones will eat your snails and each other too.

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Originally Posted by Joe0813

I will never get hermit crabs ever again. they wipe out my snails all the time and steal the shells... even though I put bigger shells into the tank for the crabs to switch to

It is a common misconception that hermits kill snails for their shells. They kill them to eat them. If they happen to like that shell they will use it. But make no mistake they will kill ANY snail they can.

Ryan Darilek · 07/03/2017, 10:09 PM

I've had 15 dwarf (red and blue legged) hermits in my tank along side 5 similar in size snails for over two months and all of my snails are accounted for... Either my tank is filthy enough, or I'm just lucky. Lol

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JonCubb · 07/04/2017, 07:13 AM

The only time I've ever seen any of my crabs attack snails was if the snail was allready dead, dieing, or if there weren't enough shells of all shapes and sizes to go around. Now I make sure to keep plenty of extra shells laying around in the corner of the tank to prevent fighting and murderous rage. Once I started keeping these extra shells, I haven't witnessed a single shell related homicide between any of my CUC.

I will however say that a lot of these websites that sell pre-selected cleanup crews and monthly/bi-monthly "refresher packs" are simply to move more product. I, like many others have bought these packs only to end up seeing the damn things starve, even in a well matured tank. When I would order, I would see a 50% die off over the next couple months, then the remaining crew would survive much, much, much longer due to there only being enough mouths to feed that my tank can support. From my experience, whatever these websites tell you that you need, half it. This may also be a reason I don't see my crabs attack snails, because there is enough food for everybody, minimal competition.

Joe0813 · 07/05/2017, 02:55 PM

I cant keep hermits and snails together

gabloo · 07/05/2017, 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=laugh;25137191]No. The little ones will eat your snails and each other too.

Arr ic. Thanks for correcting. In that case, i won't be getting any in the future then.

j.falk · 07/05/2017, 07:01 PM

So which is better for a CUC then? Hermits or snails? I've never had any luck with snails lasting very long even with an overabundance of algae to eat.

laugh · 07/06/2017, 05:07 AM

I use snails and shrimp. The hermits will kill each other as well.

07/01/2017, 04:42 PM	#1
jar41 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 140	Clean up crew Hi Could you guys recommend me some clean up crew? I have 58 gallon plus 20 sump.Currently have Urchin,2 shrimps(Red and Cleaner),Red Leg Crab,few snails-probably 4-5 total.What do i miss? THX Ps Yes,it's reef tank

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07/02/2017, 06:56 AM	#8
laugh Member of the Registry Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 1,226	Do yourself a favor and skip the crabs. They will just eat each other and your snails. __________________ NORK President Current Tank Info: All gone

07/03/2017, 09:21 PM	#12
Joe0813 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston strong Posts: 2,766	I will never get hermit crabs ever again. they wipe out my snails all the time and steal the shells... even though I put bigger shells into the tank for the crabs to switch to __________________ Joe and Jenny Current Tank Info: 180 reef

07/05/2017, 02:55 PM	#16
Joe0813 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Boston strong Posts: 2,766	I cant keep hermits and snails together __________________ Joe and Jenny Current Tank Info: 180 reef

07/01/2017, 04:48 PM	#2
Snarky Shark Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 45	I like a few blue hermits as well. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

07/01/2017, 04:51 PM	#3
jar41 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 140	Ok, i have been checking Liveaquaria and their amount is scaring me....Is that many necessary?

07/01/2017, 05:24 PM	#6
AlSimmons Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: California Posts: 2,482	You've already got plenty IMO. Don't forget YOUR the CUC member that tank will ever see.

07/02/2017, 12:51 AM	#7
Ryan Darilek Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 376	They recommend 1 CUC member per gallon of water... Seems a bit excessive to me, but I went with one of the liveaquaria packs and they are all doing well (have about 15 hermits, a Nassarius, 2 turbos, 2 emerald crabs, 5 smaller snails, a cleaner shrimp in my 32BC) Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

07/03/2017, 06:57 PM	#9
gabloo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: San Jose Posts: 85	I would rather get dwarf hermit crabs. Big one will eat snails

07/03/2017, 08:50 PM	#11
jar41 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 140	Thx everyone for help! I am fighting with GHA so thought about increasing CUC.Maybe i just wait a bit,few water changes and than see what's going to happen.

07/03/2017, 10:09 PM	#14
Ryan Darilek Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 376	I've had 15 dwarf (red and blue legged) hermits in my tank along side 5 similar in size snails for over two months and all of my snails are accounted for... Either my tank is filthy enough, or I'm just lucky. Lol Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

07/04/2017, 07:13 AM	#15
JonCubb Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 60	The only time I've ever seen any of my crabs attack snails was if the snail was allready dead, dieing, or if there weren't enough shells of all shapes and sizes to go around. Now I make sure to keep plenty of extra shells laying around in the corner of the tank to prevent fighting and murderous rage. Once I started keeping these extra shells, I haven't witnessed a single shell related homicide between any of my CUC. I will however say that a lot of these websites that sell pre-selected cleanup crews and monthly/bi-monthly "refresher packs" are simply to move more product. I, like many others have bought these packs only to end up seeing the damn things starve, even in a well matured tank. When I would order, I would see a 50% die off over the next couple months, then the remaining crew would survive much, much, much longer due to there only being enough mouths to feed that my tank can support. From my experience, whatever these websites tell you that you need, half it. This may also be a reason I don't see my crabs attack snails, because there is enough food for everybody, minimal competition.

07/05/2017, 05:36 PM	#17
gabloo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: San Jose Posts: 85	[QUOTE=laugh;25137191]No. The little ones will eat your snails and each other too. Arr ic. Thanks for correcting. In that case, i won't be getting any in the future then.

07/05/2017, 07:01 PM	#18
j.falk Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 632	So which is better for a CUC then? Hermits or snails? I've never had any luck with snails lasting very long even with an overabundance of algae to eat.

07/06/2017, 05:07 AM	#19
laugh Member of the Registry Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 1,226	I use snails and shrimp. The hermits will kill each other as well. __________________ NORK President Current Tank Info: All gone