dwarf angle question???

mikem101 · 08/13/2017, 10:35 PM

So I wanted to get every bodies opinion on this, Ive recently got back into the hobby! I went out and found myself a 150 gallon tall tank, and am now thinking of a stocking list while the tank cycles. I'm wondering what you guys think of 2 adult dwarf angles in this tank? these are my top 5 choices
1.potters angle
2.red stripe angle
3.Black Nox Angelfish
4.coral beauty
5.Flameback
Any combo of these guys would be awesome let me know what you guys think thanks!

chytownprincess · 08/14/2017, 02:52 AM

I had read an article in an o online written by one of the hobby icons, Scott maybe Sprung or Frenner(sp?) that indicated the pygmy angels will cross breed. Example Flame and Beauty..

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mikem101 · 08/14/2017, 04:02 AM

that's pretty interesting! but I more worried about them being aggressive with each other lol!

Ron Reefman · 08/14/2017, 05:15 AM

potter's angelfish are VERY difficult to keep.

and sometimes, not always, but sometimes 2 dwarf angels in a tank is an issue. A 150g tank is likely going to have enough room for the 2, but there is some risk.

ca1ore · 08/14/2017, 07:55 AM

Dwarf angels certainly do cross species boundaries to breed. Divers den frequently has hybrids for sale. 150 is big enough for two, though aggression can be unpredictable. Potters is a tricky angel, needing a lot of live rock to graze.

mikem101 · 08/14/2017, 09:43 AM

My top 2 choices are block nox and red stripe just cause it's something you don't see often around here? Any issues with those two together anyone can see?

aznflyfisherman · 08/14/2017, 08:25 PM

I have a coral beauty n two flame angels in my 110g.

Gatorfan · 08/14/2017, 09:49 PM

I finally got a healthy Potters through QT eating to go with my Coral Beauty and two medium sized angels, Regal and Lamark.

mikem101 · 08/14/2017, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatorfan

I finally got a healthy Potters through QT eating to go with my Coral Beauty and two medium sized angels, Regal and Lamark.

thats awesome and none of them mess with each other?

Michael Hoaster · 08/16/2017, 10:47 PM

I know they weren't on your list but you could try a harem of cherub angels. Get three smalls and one large. They all start as females, so three smalls will be female. If the large one isn't male already, it will turn into one. Bam! Harem!

Nobbygas · 08/17/2017, 10:18 AM

I've got a Flame, Coral Beauty and Lemon Peel Dwarf Angels in my S-650. No problems at all with aggression.

kmbyrnes · 08/19/2017, 08:08 AM

A 150 is big enough IMO, but every fish is different.
Potter's are tough, but Rusty's are very similar in coloration.
And Coral Beauty's are one of my favorites.

mikem101 · 08/19/2017, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kmbyrnes

A 150 is big enough IMO, but every fish is different.
Potter's are tough, but Rusty's are very similar in coloration.
And Coral Beauty's are one of my favorites.

I like coral beauties BUT they are in EVERY tank! I kinda want some fish in there you don't see in many tanks, which is I guess what everyone wants lol!

Daltonbilecki · 08/19/2017, 08:46 PM

I thought potters were just as easy/hard as any other angel. Whats so "difficult" about them compared to other dwarf angels?

Gatorfan · 08/19/2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem101

thats awesome and none of them mess with each other?

Some squabbles at first, but they get along pretty well.

wrott · 08/20/2017, 12:45 AM

Even if you buy them from DD, most angels will need mature LR(2-3 years old) to pick from or there is a significant increased mortality.
Flame, flameback and beauty will be easiest and likely least coral munchers.

mikem101 · 08/20/2017, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wrott

Even if you buy them from DD, most angels will need mature LR(2-3 years old) to pick from or there is a significant increased mortality.
Flame, flameback and beauty will be easiest and likely least coral munchers.

That's interesting, so some angles will not take "store bought" food? or are picky eaters? and some are more likely to eat what you feed?

kmbyrnes · 08/20/2017, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Daltonbilecki

I thought potters were just as easy/hard as any other angel. Whats so "difficult" about them compared to other dwarf angels?

Like many fish, they have a reputation for poor eating when first acquired.
This is more likely with adult specimens. If you follow good buying practice and never get a fish that is not eating, you are better off.
Fish purchased online are riskier since you can't see that prior to purchase.

08/13/2017, 10:35 PM	#1
mikem101 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 819	dwarf angle question??? So I wanted to get every bodies opinion on this, Ive recently got back into the hobby! I went out and found myself a 150 gallon tall tank, and am now thinking of a stocking list while the tank cycles. I'm wondering what you guys think of 2 adult dwarf angles in this tank? these are my top 5 choices 1.potters angle 2.red stripe angle 3.Black Nox Angelfish 4.coral beauty 5.Flameback Any combo of these guys would be awesome let me know what you guys think thanks!

08/14/2017, 05:15 AM	#4
Ron Reefman Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 10,431	potter's angelfish are VERY difficult to keep. and sometimes, not always, but sometimes 2 dwarf angels in a tank is an issue. A 150g tank is likely going to have enough room for the 2, but there is some risk. __________________ The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Visit my build thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2593017

08/14/2017, 07:55 AM	#5
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	Dwarf angels certainly do cross species boundaries to breed. Divers den frequently has hybrids for sale. 150 is big enough for two, though aggression can be unpredictable. Potters is a tricky angel, needing a lot of live rock to graze. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

08/14/2017, 09:49 PM	#8
Gatorfan Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 533	I finally got a healthy Potters through QT eating to go with my Coral Beauty and two medium sized angels, Regal and Lamark. __________________ 120 gallon, MP20, AquaMaxx Q2, AI SOL Blue(x2) Coral Beauty Angel, Regal Angel, Potters Angel, pair of Occ. Clowns, Tomini Tang. Started 6/9/2012

08/16/2017, 10:47 PM	#10
Michael Hoaster Registered Seaweedist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 5,807	I know they weren't on your list but you could try a harem of cherub angels. Get three smalls and one large. They all start as females, so three smalls will be female. If the large one isn't male already, it will turn into one. Bam! Harem! __________________ As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance, our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Sandbar Lagoon, START DATE November 28, 2018

08/14/2017, 02:52 AM	#2
chytownprincess Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 15	I had read an article in an o online written by one of the hobby icons, Scott maybe Sprung or Frenner(sp?) that indicated the pygmy angels will cross breed. Example Flame and Beauty.. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

08/14/2017, 04:02 AM	#3
mikem101 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 819	that's pretty interesting! but I more worried about them being aggressive with each other lol!

08/14/2017, 09:43 AM	#6
mikem101 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 819	My top 2 choices are block nox and red stripe just cause it's something you don't see often around here? Any issues with those two together anyone can see?

08/14/2017, 08:25 PM	#7
aznflyfisherman Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 957	I have a coral beauty n two flame angels in my 110g.

08/17/2017, 10:18 AM	#11
Nobbygas Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Offenbach nr Frankfurt Posts: 12	I've got a Flame, Coral Beauty and Lemon Peel Dwarf Angels in my S-650. No problems at all with aggression.

08/19/2017, 08:08 AM	#12
kmbyrnes Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 2,055	A 150 is big enough IMO, but every fish is different. Potter's are tough, but Rusty's are very similar in coloration. And Coral Beauty's are one of my favorites. __________________ 125g Mixed Reef 5/26/2015; 350 Butterfly Dominated FOWLR 11/26/2015 - 11/17/20217 & 07/31/18 to ??? ; 100g Mixed Reef 11/16/2013 to 06/16/2017 Current Tank Info: Too small

08/19/2017, 08:46 PM	#14
Daltonbilecki Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 282	I thought potters were just as easy/hard as any other angel. Whats so "difficult" about them compared to other dwarf angels?

08/20/2017, 12:45 AM	#16
wrott Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,912	Even if you buy them from DD, most angels will need mature LR(2-3 years old) to pick from or there is a significant increased mortality. Flame, flameback and beauty will be easiest and likely least coral munchers. __________________ OK, but where does the meat go! ------------------------------------------------ 120g SPS, 125g mix, 56g FOWLR, 20g qt