Refugium Before or After Skimmer (Triton Method)

Acroart · 11/26/2017, 09:48 PM

I am building out a 106 gallon lagoon style tank 48"x32"x16" and looking to implement the Triton method. Wanted to know if any one had an opinion on refugium placement in the sump. Most setups I have noticed have the refugium in line first then the skimmer. I was thinking of skimming first, then a large refugium and finally to the return. Let me know your opinion, set ups, successes or issues.

Thanks

peder · 11/27/2017, 09:36 AM

Refugium first, thats the Triton Way

Cheapreef · 11/27/2017, 10:34 AM

If you run the Refugium first make sure you take proper precautions so your skimmer doesn\t suck up any stray chaeto ect. It will take out impeller very quickly, personally I run my chaeto after my skimmer with screen on my return.

DesertReefT4r · 11/28/2017, 10:05 PM

I had my skimmer first then fuge. I really dont think it matters too much either way. A skimmer is not going to remove all nutrients before it gets to the fuge.

jubei2006 · 11/28/2017, 10:11 PM

Skimmer may pick up beneficial pods before they make it to the display. Because of this many people and sumps are set up skimmer then fuge

Frogmanx82 · 11/29/2017, 12:39 AM

The Eshopps channel design is interesting because the refugium flow bypasses the skimmer and feeds right back to the return pump. The setup has about 90% of the water going to the skimmer, 10% or so through the refugium.

drtrash · 11/29/2017, 01:24 PM

I think my skimmer would remove all pods from Fuge in no time. I get the nutrient removal is driving Triton system but don’t want all those pod deaths on my soul. My skimmer is gifts and does get a lot of particles building up fast

Acroart · 12/03/2017, 02:22 PM

I am now considering a split system were 50% of the overflow heads to the refugium and the other 50% to the skimmer then they both would spill over to a return pump in the center. This is got to be a good setup to capture the benefits of not sending the fudge water to the skimmer zone but still getting plenty of interface with both nutrient exporting methods especially with 10xs turnover.

Cheapreef · 12/03/2017, 02:29 PM

Why do you have this exact thread in 3 different forums?

skiingfast · 12/03/2017, 04:51 PM

Why are pods decimated by skimmers that some water goes through but not the return pump all water goes through?

11/26/2017, 09:48 PM	#1
Acroart Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 14	Refugium Before or After Skimmer (Triton Method) I am building out a 106 gallon lagoon style tank 48"x32"x16" and looking to implement the Triton method. Wanted to know if any one had an opinion on refugium placement in the sump. Most setups I have noticed have the refugium in line first then the skimmer. I was thinking of skimming first, then a large refugium and finally to the return. Let me know your opinion, set ups, successes or issues. Thanks

11/29/2017, 12:39 AM	#6
Frogmanx82 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,515	The Eshopps channel design is interesting because the refugium flow bypasses the skimmer and feeds right back to the return pump. The setup has about 90% of the water going to the skimmer, 10% or so through the refugium. __________________ Exodus 8:2 Check my homepage for tank pics and details. Current Tank Info: 90 gallon, 2x maxspect R420R LED, 4 Ocellaris Clowns, Yellow Eye Kole Tang, Flame Angel, Foxface Rabbitfish, Banggai Cardinals, Azure Damsel, rock flower anemone, cleaner shrimp, serpent star

11/27/2017, 09:36 AM	#2
peder Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 62	Refugium first, thats the Triton Way

11/27/2017, 10:34 AM	#3
Cheapreef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,076	If you run the Refugium first make sure you take proper precautions so your skimmer doesn\t suck up any stray chaeto ect. It will take out impeller very quickly, personally I run my chaeto after my skimmer with screen on my return.

11/28/2017, 10:05 PM	#4
DesertReefT4r Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Mesa Az Posts: 771	I had my skimmer first then fuge. I really dont think it matters too much either way. A skimmer is not going to remove all nutrients before it gets to the fuge.

11/28/2017, 10:11 PM	#5
jubei2006 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newton, nc Posts: 68	Skimmer may pick up beneficial pods before they make it to the display. Because of this many people and sumps are set up skimmer then fuge

11/29/2017, 01:24 PM	#7
drtrash Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,178	I think my skimmer would remove all pods from Fuge in no time. I get the nutrient removal is driving Triton system but don’t want all those pod deaths on my soul. My skimmer is gifts and does get a lot of particles building up fast

12/03/2017, 02:22 PM	#8
Acroart Registered Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 14	I am now considering a split system were 50% of the overflow heads to the refugium and the other 50% to the skimmer then they both would spill over to a return pump in the center. This is got to be a good setup to capture the benefits of not sending the fudge water to the skimmer zone but still getting plenty of interface with both nutrient exporting methods especially with 10xs turnover.

12/03/2017, 02:29 PM	#9
Cheapreef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,076	Why do you have this exact thread in 3 different forums?

12/03/2017, 04:51 PM	#10
skiingfast Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 217	Why are pods decimated by skimmers that some water goes through but not the return pump all water goes through?