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Unread 03/01/2018, 09:35 AM   #1
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Triton method + water changes can it go wrong ?

Hello guys .. so im trying out the triton core 7 for few weeks now problem is my cheato is not absorbing nitrates that mutch right now because its still just a small piece ..
So i would like to do some Wc is it bad idea or there should be no problem with that ? I have some aquaforest reef salt .. im just thinking what with trace elements they wont get pretty high ?


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Unread 03/01/2018, 06:56 PM   #2
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What is a triton core 7? Doing water changes is a good thing.


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Unread 03/01/2018, 07:01 PM   #3
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You dont do water changes on the Triton system. Nitrates can be controlled but I think the Triton system deals with Nitrates in a different way, likely through carbon. I am sure there are a few users of it around here that can better answer you, but I dont think you want to do any water changes while using that method. Also your supposed to be sending your water off to Triton to test and they tell you what and how much to dose.


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Hello guys .. so im trying out the triton core 7 for few weeks now problem is my cheato is not absorbing nitrates that mutch right now because its still just a small piece ..
So i would like to do some Wc is it bad idea or there should be no problem with that ? I have some aquaforest reef salt .. im just thinking what with trace elements they wont get pretty high ?
Definately do water changes to help control nitarte & phosphate untill the algae settles in & grows to a size that will efficiently control it


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Unread 03/02/2018, 01:58 AM   #5
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You dont do water changes on the Triton system. Nitrates can be controlled but I think the Triton system deals with Nitrates in a different way, likely through carbon. I am sure there are a few users of it around here that can better answer you, but I dont think you want to do any water changes while using that method. Also your supposed to be sending your water off to Triton to test and they tell you what and how much to dose.
The idea is that your fuge takes care for nitrates that why the recommendation is 10-20% fuge size off total system volume ..


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Definately do water changes to help control nitarte & phosphate untill the algae settles in & grows to a size that will efficiently control it
Yes that was my idea but i was just thinking what with all trace elements they wont get elevated!



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Yes that was my idea but u was just thinking what with all trace elements they wont get elevated!
Wouldn't worry too much, it'll only be a minute bit of iron potassium


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Yes that was my idea but u was just thinking what with all trace elements they wont get elevated!
huh?
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say/ask there..
Have you done the Triton/ICP tests yet?


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I would think that water changes would be ok, but the triton method is designed around no water changes, so it will likely lower your trace elements and affect your dosing schedules. But next time you do the ICP test it will detect the changes and get you back on track.


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I would think that water changes would be ok, but the triton method is designed around no water changes, so it will likely lower your trace elements and affect your dosing schedules. But next time you do the ICP test it will detect the changes and get you back on track.
I agree, this is how I understand the Triton method.

Doing water changes somewhat works against the method because it's based on periodic testing without water changes. If you change water in between tests it'll throw off parameters, which in turn throws off what you're supposed to add back to the tank.


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Triton method allows you to stop water-changes through testing and other guidelines, but does not prohibit them.... they just don't make sense since the whole point it to replace those costs/effort with testing, their supplements, and a refugium. They specifically state that you can do WC if you need temporary relief from nutrient spikes.

The only problematic thing is simply wasting money on supplements and testing when water changes would make it irrelevant, and you end up spending more money... It's not going to hurt your tank to EVER to do water changes IMO, this is about your pocketbook only..


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