URGENT: Corals suddenly dying?

gonioporagirl · 07/15/2018, 07:20 AM

This morning I came downstairs to find that all of my euphyllias were retracted with some sort of slime coming off of them. My acan was also very retracted and had weird white strands all over it. They almost look like tiny worms, but I'm not sure what they are, I will try to provide a picture later and my parameters, I just was very worried and wanted to make a post ASAP. What's really weird is that just yesterday they were thriving. I also noticed that my snail has some weird white thing coming out of its back end. What could this possibly be, and what can I do to solve it?

gonioporagirl · 07/15/2018, 07:27 AM

alright I did some research and I'm pretty sure the white spaghetti-like things on my acan are mesenterial filaments.

Bill_Moorman · 07/15/2018, 07:28 AM

Pics are needed. What are your current params? Are you running carbon? Any changes since the last time they were happy?

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gonioporagirl · 07/15/2018, 08:06 AM

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 0
Ph: 8.0 (I added some buffer to raise it)
calcium:360 (I added calcium and magnesium powder)

a pic will be coming soon

Bill_Moorman · 07/15/2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gonioporagirl

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 0
Ph: 8.0 (I added some buffer to raise it)
calcium:360 (I added calcium and magnesium powder)

a pic will be coming soon

How much did you raise your pH? Also what about alk and mag?

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Sk8r · 07/15/2018, 09:03 AM

That calcium is quite low for stony coral. I prefer an 8.3 alkalinity, (I don't track ph), a 420 calcium, and a 1350 magnesium.

AlSimmons · 07/15/2018, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonioporagirl

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 0
Ph: 8.0 (I added some buffer to raise it)
calcium:360 (I added calcium and magnesium powder)

a pic will be coming soon

What was the temperature of the tank? Things can get a little hot this time of the year and perhaps the corals were just reacting to this.

oshanickreef · 07/15/2018, 11:22 AM

Acans like phosphates and nitrates in small amounts. I feed mine all the time with a mixed concoction of mysis, reefroids, rods foods, selcon, fuel. They love it!

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rvareef · 07/15/2018, 01:08 PM

how big is the tank? need to post pics of the corals and your setup, full tank shot, from your parameters sounds like your tank is too clean for lps and adding buffer,mg and ca may have stressed them out, also did not see your values for mg and alk

Uncle99 · 07/15/2018, 01:43 PM

Calcium running low, bring it 420 ish, nitrate and phosphate should not be 0 or you will starve your corals, shoot fir nitrate 2-5ppm and phosphate .02-.05.
The above is more of a longer term thinking, your issue seems to be something happening fast ......either temp...is their anybody who can bother them?

Does it look like brown jelly?

Yup, need some pics if what you see...

Daddi0 · 07/15/2018, 02:36 PM

I do think she is confusing KH and PH?

gonioporagirl · 07/15/2018, 03:47 PM

nah im not confusing it, my ph was just a little low

outssider · 07/15/2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gonioporagirl

nah im not confusing it, my ph was just a little low

8 for ph is fine...…..don't ever use buffer to try to raise ph. buffer is for alkalinity (dkh). ph is a function of co2 in the tank/ surrounding air.

rvareef · 07/16/2018, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonioporagirl

nah im not confusing it, my ph was just a little low

so what is the alk, and where are the pics!?!

brett559 · 07/17/2018, 03:37 PM

I had sudden die-off a few months ago. Lost a gorgeous scoly and some nice big chalices.

The culprit was too low nitrate and phosphate. Zero phosphate is bad. These are living things that need food! I took out my phosphate media, doubled my feeding and things are coming back to life.

Lsufan · 07/17/2018, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outssider

8 for ph is fine...…..don't ever use buffer to try to raise ph. buffer is for alkalinity (dkh). ph is a function of co2 in the tank/ surrounding air.

I agree with this. Ph is very rarely a issue in saltwater tanks & adding buffer does more harm then good the majority of the time. It will only temporarily raise the ph but it also raises alkalinity. If u add it often u may have extremely high alk.

From what test u are doing it sounds like u have a api kit? If so I would think about getting some better test kits being u want to keep coral. Api for ammonia, nitrate & nitrite is fine for cycling a tank but the phosphate kit is completely worthless for our purposes. I like both redsea & salifert kits for the big three. The most important tests right now is alk, calcium & mag. I wouldn’t bother with ph & if it is api that u have for phosphate & nitrate u can keep them on hand just to make sure they don’t get extremely high.

rvareef · 07/21/2018, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonioporagirl

nah im not confusing it, my ph was just a little low

urgent where are the pics

07/15/2018, 07:20 AM	#1
gonioporagirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 39	URGENT: Corals suddenly dying? This morning I came downstairs to find that all of my euphyllias were retracted with some sort of slime coming off of them. My acan was also very retracted and had weird white strands all over it. They almost look like tiny worms, but I'm not sure what they are, I will try to provide a picture later and my parameters, I just was very worried and wanted to make a post ASAP. What's really weird is that just yesterday they were thriving. I also noticed that my snail has some weird white thing coming out of its back end. What could this possibly be, and what can I do to solve it?

07/15/2018, 09:03 AM	#6
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	That calcium is quite low for stony coral. I prefer an 8.3 alkalinity, (I don't track ph), a 420 calcium, and a 1350 magnesium. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/15/2018, 11:22 AM	#8
oshanickreef Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 2,367	Acans like phosphates and nitrates in small amounts. I feed mine all the time with a mixed concoction of mysis, reefroids, rods foods, selcon, fuel. They love it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Mixed Peaceful Reef :) ~140 Gallons of Water Non-agro fish Instagram: Oshanickreef

07/15/2018, 02:36 PM	#11
Daddi0 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Redwood City Posts: 1,354	I do think she is confusing KH and PH? __________________ 2x 65g displays with a 30g cryptic refugium and 30g sump - 55g reef 30g Bio-cube reef - I.M. 30g reef - 45g freshwater

07/15/2018, 07:27 AM	#2
gonioporagirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 39	alright I did some research and I'm pretty sure the white spaghetti-like things on my acan are mesenterial filaments.

07/15/2018, 07:28 AM	#3
Bill_Moorman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 188	Pics are needed. What are your current params? Are you running carbon? Any changes since the last time they were happy? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07/15/2018, 08:06 AM	#4
gonioporagirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 39	Ammonia: 0 Nitrite: 0 Nitrate: 0 Phosphate: 0 Ph: 8.0 (I added some buffer to raise it) calcium:360 (I added calcium and magnesium powder) a pic will be coming soon

07/15/2018, 01:08 PM	#9
rvareef In Memoriam Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 664	how big is the tank? need to post pics of the corals and your setup, full tank shot, from your parameters sounds like your tank is too clean for lps and adding buffer,mg and ca may have stressed them out, also did not see your values for mg and alk

07/15/2018, 01:43 PM	#10
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Calcium running low, bring it 420 ish, nitrate and phosphate should not be 0 or you will starve your corals, shoot fir nitrate 2-5ppm and phosphate .02-.05. The above is more of a longer term thinking, your issue seems to be something happening fast ......either temp...is their anybody who can bother them? Does it look like brown jelly? Yup, need some pics if what you see...

07/15/2018, 03:47 PM	#12
gonioporagirl Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 39	nah im not confusing it, my ph was just a little low

07/17/2018, 03:37 PM	#15
brett559 In Memoriam Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 1,790	I had sudden die-off a few months ago. Lost a gorgeous scoly and some nice big chalices. The culprit was too low nitrate and phosphate. Zero phosphate is bad. These are living things that need food! I took out my phosphate media, doubled my feeding and things are coming back to life.