all 12 zoanthids frags closed up today.

zheka757 · 10/09/2018, 08:22 PM

i had flame angel for a while and my zoa's being fine all this time. last week i added another dwarf angel (black nox angel) and royal gramma basslet. Today came from work and they all shut closed.
water parameters haven't changed for months now. can it most likely cause from angel nipping on them, even though i have never seeing her nipping on any corals?

ph 8.2
alk 10.9-11.2
calcium 400-420
magnesium 1240
amonia/nitrite 0
nitrate 20 ppm
salinity 1.023
temp 79* F

thegrun · 10/09/2018, 08:35 PM

Zoas will do that on occasion for apparently no reason, although it could be one or both of the angels. Keep an eye on them, but I wouldn't remove them until you confirm they are the cause.

zheka757 · 10/09/2018, 09:16 PM

i did forget to mention, my blue hippo tang is a punk. once in a while he likes to grab the plugs with the coral and drag them around aquarium. (i have no idea why) and today i had to put 2 frag plugs back in place because of him.

murphreef · 10/09/2018, 10:10 PM

If you havent seen your angel nip at them.

A. either keep looking more and see.

B. it most likely is your alk or nitrates both are excessively high.

pshootr · 10/09/2018, 11:54 PM

Indeed nitrate is up there. I would do some small water changes over the next week

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homer1475 · 10/10/2018, 01:46 AM

20PPM nitrate is perfectly fine for softies, they actually prefer it a little "dirtier" as most softies do. Although not obsessively high, I would work on getting that down to round 5 or 10.

Back in my biocube I had 40ppm and zoas grew like weeds!

Anywho, I would just watch the angels, although I doubt they are the issue. Sometimes zoas just doen't like opening some days. Kind of like us humans, we have off days too.

zheka757 · 10/10/2018, 05:21 AM

I have seeing one or 2 frags not openning up once in a while. but all drags and they all spread 5 feet apart and all closed up got me worried.
my nitrates are slowly going down already. this is 500 gallon system we talking about and its only 4 months old

zheka757 · 10/13/2018, 09:31 PM

4 days have past and they still- most of them dont want to open up. i realy find it strange. is it possible anything to do with tank still being new? (4 month)

10/09/2018, 08:22 PM	#1
zheka757 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Port Florida Posts: 283	all 12 zoanthids frags closed up today. i had flame angel for a while and my zoa's being fine all this time. last week i added another dwarf angel (black nox angel) and royal gramma basslet. Today came from work and they all shut closed. water parameters haven't changed for months now. can it most likely cause from angel nipping on them, even though i have never seeing her nipping on any corals? ph 8.2 alk 10.9-11.2 calcium 400-420 magnesium 1240 amonia/nitrite 0 nitrate 20 ppm salinity 1.023 temp 79* F

10/09/2018, 10:10 PM	#4
murphreef Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: simi valley Posts: 3,208	If you havent seen your angel nip at them. A. either keep looking more and see. B. it most likely is your alk or nitrates both are excessively high. __________________ Justin Current Tank Info: 25G cube (finally back in the hobby in a small way)

10/10/2018, 01:46 AM	#6
homer1475 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 5,313	20PPM nitrate is perfectly fine for softies, they actually prefer it a little "dirtier" as most softies do. Although not obsessively high, I would work on getting that down to round 5 or 10. Back in my biocube I had 40ppm and zoas grew like weeds! Anywho, I would just watch the angels, although I doubt they are the issue. Sometimes zoas just doen't like opening some days. Kind of like us humans, we have off days too. __________________ 80G SCA Build: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2560256 Originally posted by der_wille_zur_macht: "He's just taking his lunch to work"

10/09/2018, 08:35 PM	#2
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	Zoas will do that on occasion for apparently no reason, although it could be one or both of the angels. Keep an eye on them, but I wouldn't remove them until you confirm they are the cause.

10/09/2018, 09:16 PM	#3
zheka757 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Port Florida Posts: 283	i did forget to mention, my blue hippo tang is a punk. once in a while he likes to grab the plugs with the coral and drag them around aquarium. (i have no idea why) and today i had to put 2 frag plugs back in place because of him.

10/09/2018, 11:54 PM	#5
pshootr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 50	Indeed nitrate is up there. I would do some small water changes over the next week Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

10/10/2018, 05:21 AM	#7
zheka757 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Port Florida Posts: 283	I have seeing one or 2 frags not openning up once in a while. but all drags and they all spread 5 feet apart and all closed up got me worried. my nitrates are slowly going down already. this is 500 gallon system we talking about and its only 4 months old

10/13/2018, 09:31 PM	#8
zheka757 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Port Florida Posts: 283	4 days have past and they still- most of them dont want to open up. i realy find it strange. is it possible anything to do with tank still being new? (4 month)