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Unread 01/30/2019, 03:45 PM   #1
kimmy13x
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sick fish and how to treat

We purchased this blue tang a little over a week ago. we have a 120 gal tank set up for 9 months. initially he was very shy and hid a lot but he started to swim around after a few days. day before yesterday we found him looking like this scratching against the rocks. he’s still active most of the time and goes for the food. we set up a 10 gal quarantine and he is in there now. my dad took this video and went to the LFS this morning he came back with furan-2 for the quarantine and polyplab medic for the display. i’m weary about the medic because i’ve read so many things about medications claiming to be reef safe not working.

is the furan-2 a good approach to treat the tang?
opinions on polyp lab medic?
any other advice is greatly appreciated it’s our first fish in quarantine and i don’t want to lose him but also i’m worried about losing all the fish in the display if whatever it is is still in there.

https://youtu.be/uXq2C9v_oko

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Unread 01/31/2019, 09:32 AM   #2
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Tangs are prone to the Ick parasite and velvet can look somewhat similar.
I can't tell from the video. Look for a smattering of white dots.
If you can confirm that it's Ick, it was good you took him out.
I have only used cupramine (a copper treatment) for either of these two parasites.
The problem is that If you diagnos either of these two, ALl fish must come out of the DT to be treated and the DT must have no Fish for 76 days, them treated fish can go back in safely.

A good diagnos is key. Look for a lot of tiny white dots, watch for progressive changes in eating, watch for rapid or labored breathing, glassy eyes, swimming directly into powerhead current....

It is not unusual for the blue to rub himself, this can also be territory marking, so be sure what they have and use the stickies to guide you..


Your are correct....no medication can be used in the DT that will solve these two parasites

Do not underestimate the power of these parasites....if they have and you don't treat it will likely kill every fish, one by one...


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Unread 02/02/2019, 09:12 AM   #3
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I agree it is hard to tell from the video. Just a heads up, there is a guy on here (Humblefish) who has super detailed disease guides on another forum. If you Google his name and velvet or marine ich you should find them. I would read both. If it is velvet in particular in my experience you have very limited time to act.


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Unread 02/02/2019, 04:32 PM   #4
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Tangs are prone to the Ick parasite and velvet can look somewhat similar.
I can't tell from the video. Look for a smattering of white dots.
If you can confirm that it's Ick, it was good you took him out.
I have only used cupramine (a copper treatment) for either of these two parasites.
The problem is that If you diagnos either of these two, ALl fish must come out of the DT to be treated and the DT must have no Fish for 76 days, them treated fish can go back in safely.

A good diagnos is key. Look for a lot of tiny white dots, watch for progressive changes in eating, watch for rapid or labored breathing, glassy eyes, swimming directly into powerhead current....

It is not unusual for the blue to rub himself, this can also be territory marking, so be sure what they have and use the stickies to guide you..


Your are correct....no medication can be used in the DT that will solve these two parasites

Do not underestimate the power of these parasites....if they have and you don't treat it will likely kill every fish, one by one...
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If it is Ick or velvet the DT is contaminated and need to go fishless for 72+ days.

All fish need to be treated with Cupramine or TTM. A third option, if you have no invertebrates, is hypo-salinity of the fish while still in the DT.

Henceforth, ALL new fish need to be put through TTM before introduction to the display.


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Unread 02/02/2019, 05:03 PM   #5
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If it is Ick or velvet the DT is contaminated and need to go fishless for 72+ days.

All fish need to be treated with Cupramine or TTM. A third option, if you have no invertebrates, is hypo-salinity of the fish while still in the DT.

Henceforth, ALL new fish need to be put through TTM before introduction to the display.
Just a heads up, TTM does not treat velvet, as far as I know. If it's velvet, acriflavine or formalin short term and copper long term is the only solution I know of.


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Unread 02/03/2019, 11:31 AM   #6
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TTM doesn’t treat velvet. Chloroquine phosphate is the best option for velvet but if you have velvet and see symptoms, it’s already too late


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TTM doesn’t treat velvet. Chloroquine phosphate is the best option for velvet but if you have velvet and see symptoms, it’s already too late
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