Tentative Combination of Fishes

wsboyette · 07/29/2020, 08:30 AM

In my 60 gallon Fish-only, I am considering the following combination of fishes:

2 Maroon Clownfish
1 Coral Beauty Angelfish
1 Flame Angel
2 Javanese (Blue Velvet) Damsel
1 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Maybe)

Would you think the damsels might cause trouble, as they are known to get aggressive ? Or would Blue Damsels have less potential for trouble than the Javanese ? And is it advisable to have more than one Maroon Clown ?

MondoBongo · 07/29/2020, 10:01 AM

i would probably go with one, or the other angel, but IMO 60 gallons isn't a great size for any angel due to the footprint of the tank.

flasher wrasse should be ok, but definitely get a lid.

damsel might cause issues in a tank that small, they can be aggressive.

Sk8r · 07/30/2020, 11:20 AM

Blue Velvets are a terror even singly. No, no, no, go back, kemo sabe, it's a trap.

wsboyette · 07/30/2020, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

Blue Velvets are a terror even singly. No, no, no, go back, kemo sabe, it's a trap.

Thanks, Sk8r ! I think I'll just stay away from Damsels altogether.

Sk8r · 07/30/2020, 01:22 PM

The only rational, fairly decently behaved damsels in my experience are the little yellowtails or, with greater caution, the fiji blue.

Michael Hoaster · 07/31/2020, 12:08 PM

I've heard many stories of aquarists afraid to do regular maintenance because of maroon clownfish biting attacks. I agree with MondoBongo on the angelfish - pick one.

wsboyette · 07/31/2020, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Hoaster

I've heard many stories of aquarists afraid to do regular maintenance because of maroon clownfish biting attacks. I agree with MondoBongo on the angelfish - pick one.

Maroon clowns are very bold; I had one years ago that would eat right out of my hand, and if I stuck an empty hand in the tank he would peck at it (looking for some food).

wsboyette · 07/31/2020, 07:03 PM

Well, the first two specimens came home from the LFS today; two Maroon Clownfish.....

Sk8r · 08/01/2020, 03:36 PM

My recommendation of clownfish is the ocellaris---bright pattern, lively, and mild-mannered toward other fishes. The maroons are larger, more defensive of territory, and nippy, which the ocellaris aren't.

wsboyette · 08/01/2020, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8r

My recommendation of clownfish is the ocellaris---bright pattern, lively, and mild-mannered toward other fishes. The maroons are larger, more defensive of territory, and nippy, which the ocellaris aren't.

Guess I've made my bed now though with the Maroons; it is my favorite clownfish. I had one years and years ago (1990s) for about 7 years, he was a beautiful specimen..... Used to eat food right out of my fingers.

Sk8r · 08/01/2020, 04:47 PM

Then you know them.

Remember they do get pushy when they mate. I've always admired them, but after two (allegedly milder-mannered) Clarkiis who bit me bloody (they have little square teeth) every time I worked in the tank, I decided a larger, naughtier clown was not for me. Seriously, they are gorgeous.

07/29/2020, 08:30 AM	#1
wsboyette Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: N.E.N.C. Posts: 140	Tentative Combination of Fishes In my 60 gallon Fish-only, I am considering the following combination of fishes: 2 Maroon Clownfish 1 Coral Beauty Angelfish 1 Flame Angel 2 Javanese (Blue Velvet) Damsel 1 Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Maybe) Would you think the damsels might cause trouble, as they are known to get aggressive ? Or would Blue Damsels have less potential for trouble than the Javanese ? And is it advisable to have more than one Maroon Clown ? __________________ Oh..... Fishy Fishy Fishy FISH ! Current Tank Info: 60 Gallon Fish-Only With Dry Rock, Filtration: Aquamaxx HOB Filter/Skimmer & Aqua-Tech 30-60 300 GPH HOB Motor Filter, Livestock: Coral Beauty and Maroon Clown

07/29/2020, 10:01 AM	#2
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	i would probably go with one, or the other angel, but IMO 60 gallons isn't a great size for any angel due to the footprint of the tank. flasher wrasse should be ok, but definitely get a lid. damsel might cause issues in a tank that small, they can be aggressive. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.

07/30/2020, 11:20 AM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Blue Velvets are a terror even singly. No, no, no, go back, kemo sabe, it's a trap. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/30/2020, 01:22 PM	#5
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	The only rational, fairly decently behaved damsels in my experience are the little yellowtails or, with greater caution, the fiji blue. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/31/2020, 12:08 PM	#6
Michael Hoaster Registered Seaweedist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 5,807	I've heard many stories of aquarists afraid to do regular maintenance because of maroon clownfish biting attacks. I agree with MondoBongo on the angelfish - pick one. __________________ As many naturalists and environmentalists have suggested, we should set aside our arrogance, our desire to conquer and control everything, and walk hand in hand with Mother Nature. -Walter Adey Current Tank Info: 180g Seagrass Sandbar Lagoon, START DATE November 28, 2018

08/01/2020, 03:36 PM	#9
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	My recommendation of clownfish is the ocellaris---bright pattern, lively, and mild-mannered toward other fishes. The maroons are larger, more defensive of territory, and nippy, which the ocellaris aren't. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/01/2020, 04:47 PM	#11
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Then you know them. Remember they do get pushy when they mate. I've always admired them, but after two (allegedly milder-mannered) Clarkiis who bit me bloody (they have little square teeth) every time I worked in the tank, I decided a larger, naughtier clown was not for me. Seriously, they are gorgeous. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.