Starting a new 29 gallon tank

kingsord0 · 11/01/2005, 02:05 PM

I am going to set up the tank on tursday or next monday. I have a few quetions.

1. Would a bubble coral be ok?
2.Where is a good spot to get live rock?
3.How long should i let the tank cycle?

I hope someone can help me.

BenH98 · 11/01/2005, 02:20 PM

1 - it depends on a lot of things... mostly your lighting setup. It should be fine with 130+ watts of PC lights. You should also research and find out what kind of flow it likes.

2 - at your local LFS, or from a friend who has an established setup

3 - it depends... just keep testing ( i did every other day until it was done) and when you see your ammonia and nitrites at 0, you can start to add a clean-up crew and move from there. Don't add your "bubble coral" until the cycle is complete!

Phong33 · 11/01/2005, 02:20 PM

1. That depends on what you have for lights
2. I'd go to your LFS to get some. You can order if online but shipping cost will be a pain.
3. That is dependent on your system. every tank is different. but around a couple of months

What are you planning on keeping in there?

Phong33 · 11/01/2005, 02:21 PM

LOL, the exact same post at the exact same time

BenH98 · 11/01/2005, 02:24 PM

Great minds think alike

kingsord0 · 11/08/2005, 05:08 PM

I have an Eclips twin lamp system for the lights. Would that be ok for the bubble coral?

Phong33 · 11/08/2005, 08:40 PM

Not exactly sure what that setup is. What kind of blubs are they and how many watts?

kingsord0 · 11/17/2005, 02:27 PM

here is my tank

i have a eiclips 2 or 3 system

i will not be geting coral

youpey · 11/17/2005, 02:39 PM

i had a 29 with the eclipse lid. the filter in the lid is not nearly enough, plus with that lid you will find it difficult to get a hang on the back protein skimmer. once the lid broke (lighting unit) i replaced the lid with a glass lid and dual light strip with 10,000k daylight and actinic bulb. i also have a fluval 304 filter, and i wasnt even using the eclipse filter.

kingsord0 · 11/17/2005, 05:08 PM

the filter is a Marineland BIO-Wheel

kingsord0 · 11/17/2005, 07:43 PM

This is the BIO-wheel in the tank

This is a whole tank picture

Kabuto · 11/17/2005, 07:52 PM

Best thing I bought for my 29g was a HOB refugium. If I got to redo my lighting I would go with T5 lights. The only problem is not many make 30" light fixtures, so you have to either make a canopy or purchase a PC fixture like an Orbit from Current USA.

bertoni · 11/17/2005, 07:54 PM

The lighting is only 30 watts total, which is very dim. I use 110 W of PC lighting for soft corals. The bubble coral probably won't do well with your lighting. You might be able to grow some mushroom corals.

The bio-wheel filtration methods are often avoided in reef setups. I ditched the one in my Eclipse 12g. You could use live rock instead.

kingsord0 · 11/18/2005, 04:23 PM

i will not be geting any coral

what should the Ph be?

mott768 · 11/18/2005, 04:45 PM

I got the odyssea 24" 130 watt and it fits my 29 gallon 30"L tank I got for $80 at www.tfjpetcenter.com or you can check www.bigal.com for the coralife 30" I think its the same wattage as the 24"

bertoni · 11/18/2005, 04:47 PM

The pH for the tank should be somewhere around 8.1 to 8.4 during the day. Sorry, I missed the part where you said no coral. Sigh.

kingsord0 · 11/18/2005, 04:51 PM

i would get coral but i don't have the buget(80$ for fish and stuf).

kingsord0 · 11/18/2005, 05:15 PM

here is my new fish

and here is how the rock is setup

theatrus · 11/18/2005, 06:39 PM

Did you add those 3 fish at once?

megatsea · 11/18/2005, 06:59 PM

Kabuto, I also have the eclipse 29 gal for a year now....what refugium did you put on your eclipse?
I have softies ,2 percs, serpent,cleanup crew, 40lbs LR ,20 watts each marine glo daylight and actinics....
But, I have the original filter and bio wheel....will it harm the tank if I take out the bio wheel?
Thanks,
M

bertoni · 11/18/2005, 07:02 PM

Maybe. If the live rock isn't ready for the new filtration load, you could see an ammonia spike.

Kabuto · 11/18/2005, 07:34 PM

megatsea, I have a generic tank. I think AGA. I bought a 20" CPR HOB Fuge clone from someone on here. Works great. If your Nitrates aren't real high I wouldn't worry much about the biowheel. Just do water changes to bring it down. I used to aim for about 20ppm Nitrates when the tank was a FOWLR. It sits at 0 all the time now with the fuge. Hardly ever test Nitrates anymore.

kingsord0 · 11/19/2005, 09:44 AM

All my water is normal

except for ph which i am going to fix today. What should the temp be? Mine is 80 degrese. Is that ok?

JxMetal · 11/19/2005, 12:39 PM

Why does it look like those fish got photoshopped into that tank? lol

BiG_FiSH83 · 11/19/2005, 02:03 PM

That's quite a bioload to dump in a new tank

Good luck with that.......

Did you quarantine? These two threads Heeeeere aaand Especially here will give you all the info you ever wanted to know (and more) about the wunderbar world of the quarantine tank!

11/01/2005, 02:05 PM	#1
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	Starting a new 29 gallon tank I am going to set up the tank on tursday or next monday. I have a few quetions. 1. Would a bubble coral be ok? 2.Where is a good spot to get live rock? 3.How long should i let the tank cycle? I hope someone can help me. __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/01/2005, 02:20 PM	#2
BenH98 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 515	1 - it depends on a lot of things... mostly your lighting setup. It should be fine with 130+ watts of PC lights. You should also research and find out what kind of flow it likes. 2 - at your local LFS, or from a friend who has an established setup 3 - it depends... just keep testing ( i did every other day until it was done) and when you see your ammonia and nitrites at 0, you can start to add a clean-up crew and move from there. Don't add your "bubble coral" until the cycle is complete! __________________ Go KINGS!!! Current Tank Info: 29 Gallon

11/01/2005, 02:24 PM	#5
BenH98 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 515	Great minds think alike __________________ Go KINGS!!! Current Tank Info: 29 Gallon

11/08/2005, 05:08 PM	#6
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	I have an Eclips twin lamp system for the lights. Would that be ok for the bubble coral? __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/17/2005, 02:27 PM	#8
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	here is my tank i have a eiclips 2 or 3 system i will not be geting coral __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/01/2005, 02:20 PM	#3
Phong33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 371	1. That depends on what you have for lights 2. I'd go to your LFS to get some. You can order if online but shipping cost will be a pain. 3. That is dependent on your system. every tank is different. but around a couple of months What are you planning on keeping in there?

11/01/2005, 02:21 PM	#4
Phong33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 371	LOL, the exact same post at the exact same time

11/08/2005, 08:40 PM	#7
Phong33 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 371	Not exactly sure what that setup is. What kind of blubs are they and how many watts?

11/17/2005, 02:39 PM	#9
youpey Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: hightstown, NJ Posts: 262	i had a 29 with the eclipse lid. the filter in the lid is not nearly enough, plus with that lid you will find it difficult to get a hang on the back protein skimmer. once the lid broke (lighting unit) i replaced the lid with a glass lid and dual light strip with 10,000k daylight and actinic bulb. i also have a fluval 304 filter, and i wasnt even using the eclipse filter. __________________ 16gal Biocube LED - New setup Current Tank Info: 14gal nano

11/17/2005, 05:08 PM	#10
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	the filter is a Marineland BIO-Wheel __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/17/2005, 07:43 PM	#11
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	This is the BIO-wheel in the tank This is a whole tank picture __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/17/2005, 07:52 PM	#12
Kabuto Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 133	Best thing I bought for my 29g was a HOB refugium. If I got to redo my lighting I would go with T5 lights. The only problem is not many make 30" light fixtures, so you have to either make a canopy or purchase a PC fixture like an Orbit from Current USA.

11/17/2005, 07:54 PM	#13
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The lighting is only 30 watts total, which is very dim. I use 110 W of PC lighting for soft corals. The bubble coral probably won't do well with your lighting. You might be able to grow some mushroom corals. The bio-wheel filtration methods are often avoided in reef setups. I ditched the one in my Eclipse 12g. You could use live rock instead. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/18/2005, 04:23 PM	#14
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	i will not be geting any coral what should the Ph be? __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/18/2005, 04:45 PM	#15
mott768 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,490	I got the odyssea 24" 130 watt and it fits my 29 gallon 30"L tank I got for $80 at www.tfjpetcenter.com or you can check www.bigal.com for the coralife 30" I think its the same wattage as the 24"

11/18/2005, 04:47 PM	#16
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The pH for the tank should be somewhere around 8.1 to 8.4 during the day. Sorry, I missed the part where you said no coral. Sigh. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/18/2005, 04:51 PM	#17
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	i would get coral but i don't have the buget(80$ for fish and stuf). __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/18/2005, 05:15 PM	#18
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	here is my new fish and here is how the rock is setup __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/18/2005, 06:39 PM	#19
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	Did you add those 3 fish at once?

11/18/2005, 06:59 PM	#20
megatsea Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 422	hob refugium Kabuto, I also have the eclipse 29 gal for a year now....what refugium did you put on your eclipse? I have softies ,2 percs, serpent,cleanup crew, 40lbs LR ,20 watts each marine glo daylight and actinics.... But, I have the original filter and bio wheel....will it harm the tank if I take out the bio wheel? Thanks, M

11/18/2005, 07:02 PM	#21
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Maybe. If the live rock isn't ready for the new filtration load, you could see an ammonia spike. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

11/18/2005, 07:34 PM	#22
Kabuto Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 133	megatsea, I have a generic tank. I think AGA. I bought a 20" CPR HOB Fuge clone from someone on here. Works great. If your Nitrates aren't real high I wouldn't worry much about the biowheel. Just do water changes to bring it down. I used to aim for about 20ppm Nitrates when the tank was a FOWLR. It sits at 0 all the time now with the fuge. Hardly ever test Nitrates anymore.

11/19/2005, 09:44 AM	#23
kingsord0 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Warren CT Posts: 245	All my water is normal except for ph which i am going to fix today. What should the temp be? Mine is 80 degrese. Is that ok? __________________ Charlie Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Starting to go Reef

11/19/2005, 12:39 PM	#24
JxMetal Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Peters, MO Posts: 4,282	Why does it look like those fish got photoshopped into that tank? lol __________________ 28 Gallon Nanocube HQI Current Tank Info: 28gal HQI Nanocube

11/19/2005, 02:03 PM	#25
BiG_FiSH83 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 40	That's quite a bioload to dump in a new tank Good luck with that....... Did you quarantine? These two threads Heeeeere aaand Especially here will give you all the info you ever wanted to know (and more) about the wunderbar world of the quarantine tank!