powerheads for a 75

LekicINC · 01/11/2006, 07:56 PM

what are people with 75 gallons using for powerheads? Whats the best and whats the best for a reasonable price?

kbmdale · 01/11/2006, 08:01 PM

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...?idproduct=_A7

if you can find a better pump for the price buy it....lol...get 2 and you'll have great flow

Andrew · 01/11/2006, 08:02 PM

Im using 2 seio 620s and a rio 600 and I plan on adding 2 more seio 820s. Maxi-jets are alot cheaper but I like seios better.

Jeremy B. · 01/11/2006, 08:03 PM

Ultimately I prefer Tunze Streams over just about any other "powerhead", and will be using a couple of them off of a multicontroller in a 75g sps system I am getting ready to setup. Having said that, they are not the cheapest alternative out there. If you are wanting something with similar, but not exact flow patterns as the Streams, take a look at the Rio Seio pumps. Down side to them is that you can not pulse them on and off without risk of premature failure. For something that would vary some for random water flow, and not break the budget, look at using 4 x MJ1200s with a wavemaker on them. HTH

kbmdale · 01/11/2006, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andrew
Im using 2 seio 620s and a rio 600 and I plan on adding 2 more seio 820s. Maxi-jets are alot cheaper but I like seios better.

that link I posted is the seio 820 for 45 bucks...

zanemoseley · 01/11/2006, 08:10 PM

I have one Seio 820 and the smallest controllable Tunze stream available that runs on a controller on pulse mode.

BucNtears · 01/11/2006, 08:29 PM

I'm running 4 maxi jet 900's with the wave maker
works good for me.

reefmutts · 01/11/2006, 08:32 PM

I have a 75 with 4-MJ1200 and I am upgrading to 2-6000 Tunze with the 7095 controller. The 4MJ on a Red Sea wavemaker, which is not enough water flow for my SPS and LPS. I also have a Hang on HOT Magnum 250 plus my Mag 7 return for about 600gal/hr.

I have a BB tank and needed more circulation to get the detritus off the bottom.

If I knew then what I know now I would have went with the Tunze from the start. JM2cents

Just remember with the wave master not all 4 pumps are on at the same time so the flow is not 295gal/hour x 4, its more like 3x295.

LekicINC · 01/11/2006, 08:38 PM

So it seems it comes down to
2-4 seio 820
4 maxijets on a wavemaker
or tunze 6000 or 6010

I am not going with SPS, so do you still think the tunze is necessary? Are the seios w/o a wavemaker better or worse than 4 maxijets with a wave maker?

kbmdale · 01/11/2006, 08:42 PM

you can run the seio's with a wave maker.

reefmutts · 01/11/2006, 08:51 PM

If your not going to have SPS, you should be able to get away with either the 4MJ or the Seio's with a wavemaker and save yourself the $$ on the Tunze. You just want to make sure you have enough waterflow to get the detritus to your overflow box to your skimmer. If you have a BB tank and let the detritus settle in a corner without circulation it will cause a potential problem with HA (dreaded nitrates and PO4)

mhltcob · 01/11/2006, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy B.
Ultimately I prefer Tunze Streams over just about any other "powerhead", and will be using a couple of them off of a multicontroller in a 75g sps system I am getting ready to setup. Having said that, they are not the cheapest alternative out there. If you are wanting something with similar, but not exact flow patterns as the Streams, take a look at the Rio Seio pumps. Down side to them is that you can not pulse them on and off without risk of premature failure. For something that would vary some for random water flow, and not break the budget, look at using 4 x MJ1200s with a wavemaker on them. HTH

what he said,

i would do a tunze 6060 if cashflow is low or better yet a 6000 with a controller. skip the seios, they are a joke.

zanemoseley · 01/11/2006, 09:05 PM

If I didn't have Sps then I wouldn't have a tunze. The only problem I face when I used maxijet was that they have a very small concentrated water flow instead of spread out like the seio. I think tunze are still the best but I wouldn't spend the $$$ on them unless I was going sps.

kbmdale · 01/11/2006, 09:11 PM

I agree too.. If you got the money get the tunze, or even go closed loop. But if your budgeting in some more flow, Seio is the way to go.
lol That ryhmes

kbmdale · 01/11/2006, 09:11 PM

You think they would pay me for that last line...LOL

mhltcob · 01/11/2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zanemoseley
If I didn't have Sps then I wouldn't have a tunze. The only problem I face when I used maxijet was that they have a very small concentrated water flow instead of spread out like the seio. I think tunze are still the best but I wouldn't spend the $$$ on them unless I was going sps.

do you suggest that only "sps" coral come from moderate to high flow conditions? do you suggest that all "sps" come from high flow conditions? will other animals not appreciate good water flow/ healthy tank conditions associated with good strong water flow?

LekicINC · 01/11/2006, 09:54 PM

I dont think anyone is suggesting that SPS is the only organism that requires high flow, or would appreciate high flow, i think people are saying that sps NEEDS a very good flow system. I mentioned that I might want a cheap one, so they were reccomending ones i coudl get away with.

Thing is I already have a closed loop system with 950 gph flow. However, I want to add some power heads for extra flow, and/or get rid of the wet/dry system I have. My trates are high and I just started seeing a little patch of cyano where the flow was weak. there are also dead spots behing the LR.

zanemoseley · 01/11/2006, 10:06 PM

Exactily... SPS are the only specimen in an aquarium that really NEEDS alternating high flow. Sure LPS probably like it but 99% of the time it isn't manditory. I'm not saying you shouldn't have any circulation on a LPS/softie tank but its not as much a requirement as a SPS tank. I've seen 120 gallon tanks with just a small/moderate return and 2 or 3 maxijets with phenomenal LPS and softies.

LekicINC · 01/12/2006, 12:58 AM

so how does two sseio 820s sound?

Anemonebuff · 01/12/2006, 01:10 AM

If you have the money get the two Tunze Streams on the multicontroler.

otterpop510 · 01/12/2006, 02:59 AM

two seios should be fine. for the money they are more than worth it if you don't have hundreds for the tunze, better to spend all that extra cash your saving on a good skimmer or other equipment.. google the seio or search on rc, most people recommend, not like the older rio products. no problems with mine, quiet and reliable. my 820 seio in my 75 tank works great, good spread on flow and not too strong to make a sandstorm, i'm aiming to get one or two more soon. i like them more than the mj on wavemakers, my tank seems to like them too.

LekicINC · 01/12/2006, 03:11 AM

i think ill try the seios and then maybe upgrade to tunze

Jeremy B. · 01/12/2006, 08:08 AM

You can always stick the Seio's on a timer as well to shut down for an hour or two randomly through out the day to make the water flow a little more random. Just a thought....

zanemoseley · 01/12/2006, 09:56 AM

I suppose they're ok on a timer but try to avoid the constant swithing of a wavemaker since I heard over time it will demagnetize the impeller.

skidmarks · 01/12/2006, 11:50 AM

I mistakingly purchased a Seio 2600 online.

I meant to get the 1500, but mis-clicked and got the 2600.

That thing is HUGE. I went ahead and put it in my 75 and was able to hide it with some aquascaping.

It is pretty awesome, although it did raise my tank temp 2-3 degrees and I think it is a power hog. But my rock looks super clean, and my fish seem to like swimming in the stream.

My wife was afraid for the poor little chromis

I also am running three maxijet 900s under and behind the rocks to keep the corners clean.

01/11/2006, 07:56 PM	#1
LekicINC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manhattan, NYC Posts: 265	powerheads for a 75 what are people with 75 gallons using for powerheads? Whats the best and whats the best for a reasonable price? __________________ As much fun as it is to bring the fish into our world, there is nothing like going into their world. Current Tank Info: 75 f/o

01/11/2006, 08:29 PM	#7
BucNtears Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Crestview,FL. Posts: 1,019	I'm running 4 maxi jet 900's with the wave maker works good for me. __________________ If I only had a bigger tank Current Tank Info: 120 with 75 sump/fuge

01/11/2006, 08:38 PM	#9
LekicINC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manhattan, NYC Posts: 265	So it seems it comes down to 2-4 seio 820 4 maxijets on a wavemaker or tunze 6000 or 6010 I am not going with SPS, so do you still think the tunze is necessary? Are the seios w/o a wavemaker better or worse than 4 maxijets with a wave maker? __________________ As much fun as it is to bring the fish into our world, there is nothing like going into their world. Current Tank Info: 75 f/o

01/11/2006, 09:54 PM	#17
LekicINC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manhattan, NYC Posts: 265	I dont think anyone is suggesting that SPS is the only organism that requires high flow, or would appreciate high flow, i think people are saying that sps NEEDS a very good flow system. I mentioned that I might want a cheap one, so they were reccomending ones i coudl get away with. Thing is I already have a closed loop system with 950 gph flow. However, I want to add some power heads for extra flow, and/or get rid of the wet/dry system I have. My trates are high and I just started seeing a little patch of cyano where the flow was weak. there are also dead spots behing the LR. __________________ As much fun as it is to bring the fish into our world, there is nothing like going into their world. Current Tank Info: 75 f/o

01/12/2006, 12:58 AM	#19
LekicINC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manhattan, NYC Posts: 265	so how does two sseio 820s sound? __________________ As much fun as it is to bring the fish into our world, there is nothing like going into their world. Current Tank Info: 75 f/o

01/11/2006, 08:01 PM	#2
kbmdale Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fayetteville, TN Posts: 2,604	http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewIt...?idproduct=_A7 if you can find a better pump for the price buy it....lol...get 2 and you'll have great flow

01/11/2006, 08:02 PM	#3
Andrew Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 13,640	Im using 2 seio 620s and a rio 600 and I plan on adding 2 more seio 820s. Maxi-jets are alot cheaper but I like seios better.

01/11/2006, 08:03 PM	#4
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	Ultimately I prefer Tunze Streams over just about any other "powerhead", and will be using a couple of them off of a multicontroller in a 75g sps system I am getting ready to setup. Having said that, they are not the cheapest alternative out there. If you are wanting something with similar, but not exact flow patterns as the Streams, take a look at the Rio Seio pumps. Down side to them is that you can not pulse them on and off without risk of premature failure. For something that would vary some for random water flow, and not break the budget, look at using 4 x MJ1200s with a wavemaker on them. HTH

01/11/2006, 08:10 PM	#6
zanemoseley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 2,023	I have one Seio 820 and the smallest controllable Tunze stream available that runs on a controller on pulse mode.

01/11/2006, 08:32 PM	#8
reefmutts Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hood River, OR Posts: 200 Blog Entries: 1	I have a 75 with 4-MJ1200 and I am upgrading to 2-6000 Tunze with the 7095 controller. The 4MJ on a Red Sea wavemaker, which is not enough water flow for my SPS and LPS. I also have a Hang on HOT Magnum 250 plus my Mag 7 return for about 600gal/hr. I have a BB tank and needed more circulation to get the detritus off the bottom. If I knew then what I know now I would have went with the Tunze from the start. JM2cents Just remember with the wave master not all 4 pumps are on at the same time so the flow is not 295gal/hour x 4, its more like 3x295.

01/11/2006, 08:42 PM	#10
kbmdale Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fayetteville, TN Posts: 2,604	you can run the seio's with a wave maker.

01/11/2006, 08:51 PM	#11
reefmutts Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hood River, OR Posts: 200 Blog Entries: 1	If your not going to have SPS, you should be able to get away with either the 4MJ or the Seio's with a wavemaker and save yourself the $$ on the Tunze. You just want to make sure you have enough waterflow to get the detritus to your overflow box to your skimmer. If you have a BB tank and let the detritus settle in a corner without circulation it will cause a potential problem with HA (dreaded nitrates and PO4)

01/11/2006, 09:05 PM	#13
zanemoseley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 2,023	If I didn't have Sps then I wouldn't have a tunze. The only problem I face when I used maxijet was that they have a very small concentrated water flow instead of spread out like the seio. I think tunze are still the best but I wouldn't spend the $$$ on them unless I was going sps.

01/11/2006, 09:11 PM	#14
kbmdale Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: fayetteville, TN Posts: 2,604	I agree too.. If you got the money get the tunze, or even go closed loop. But if your budgeting in some more flow, Seio is the way to go. lol That ryhmes

01/11/2006, 10:06 PM	#18
zanemoseley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 2,023	Exactily... SPS are the only specimen in an aquarium that really NEEDS alternating high flow. Sure LPS probably like it but 99% of the time it isn't manditory. I'm not saying you shouldn't have any circulation on a LPS/softie tank but its not as much a requirement as a SPS tank. I've seen 120 gallon tanks with just a small/moderate return and 2 or 3 maxijets with phenomenal LPS and softies.

01/12/2006, 01:10 AM	#20
Anemonebuff Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: LI,NY Posts: 3,877	If you have the money get the two Tunze Streams on the multicontroler.

01/12/2006, 02:59 AM	#21
otterpop510 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: oakland, ca Posts: 1,018	two seios should be fine. for the money they are more than worth it if you don't have hundreds for the tunze, better to spend all that extra cash your saving on a good skimmer or other equipment.. google the seio or search on rc, most people recommend, not like the older rio products. no problems with mine, quiet and reliable. my 820 seio in my 75 tank works great, good spread on flow and not too strong to make a sandstorm, i'm aiming to get one or two more soon. i like them more than the mj on wavemakers, my tank seems to like them too. __________________ huh? you mean those are not purple people eaters in my avatar? Current Tank Info: home: 75 gal reef, 18 gal planted discus; class: 20 gal reef and some goldfish which won't die..

01/12/2006, 03:11 AM	#22
LekicINC Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manhattan, NYC Posts: 265	i think ill try the seios and then maybe upgrade to tunze __________________ As much fun as it is to bring the fish into our world, there is nothing like going into their world. Current Tank Info: 75 f/o

01/12/2006, 08:08 AM	#23
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	You can always stick the Seio's on a timer as well to shut down for an hour or two randomly through out the day to make the water flow a little more random. Just a thought....

01/12/2006, 09:56 AM	#24
zanemoseley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 2,023	I suppose they're ok on a timer but try to avoid the constant swithing of a wavemaker since I heard over time it will demagnetize the impeller.

01/12/2006, 11:50 AM	#25
skidmarks Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 63	I mistakingly purchased a Seio 2600 online. I meant to get the 1500, but mis-clicked and got the 2600. That thing is HUGE. I went ahead and put it in my 75 and was able to hide it with some aquascaping. It is pretty awesome, although it did raise my tank temp 2-3 degrees and I think it is a power hog. But my rock looks super clean, and my fish seem to like swimming in the stream. My wife was afraid for the poor little chromis I also am running three maxijet 900s under and behind the rocks to keep the corners clean.