EcoTech Marine VorTech MP40 Release Information

EcoTech Marine · 02/01/2006, 01:58 PM

We decided that since we never really got much interest in the VorTech pump, weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d release more information to stir up some excitement

The official Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the VorTech MP40 is $345.00. This price is a maximum suggested retail price; we do not impose price minimums. Price will vary from vendor to vendor.

Product will be available in limited quantities from specific vendors sometime in March, 06. Larger quantities will be available in April.

The product consumes between 35 and 40 watts of energy at its highest output, some pumps will operate at higher wattage during break in. Our lab tested flow rate is 3100 gph. During the development of this product we benchmarked it against several other products using a standard procedure to measure the flow rate of the pump. We found that some of our competitors were not hitting their claimed flow rate. The VorTech provides ~25% more flow then the performance we measured from our closest competitor, and does this at 10% less wattage, amounting to a product which is overall ~30% more efficient. Additionally, flow is capable of being turned down to approximately several hundred gallons per hour. This product is capable of being used on tanks as small as 20 gallons. How do we know? EcoTech Marine has been running it on a 29 gallon system for months.

We realize that manufacturersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ statements only mean so much to many of you. Third party testing is in process and will be published in the near future.

We sincerely appreciate all of the interest in this product and are looking forward to the coming months.

Best Regards,

Tim

Fliger · 02/01/2006, 02:24 PM

Hi Tim, will the battery back-up be available at the same time. I'd really like to pick one of these up with the back-up. Thanks!

David

thrlride · 02/01/2006, 02:42 PM

do you have any estimates to what online and local shops are going to charge for these?

jdsabin1 · 02/01/2006, 02:50 PM

"Product will be available in limited quantities from specific vendors sometime in March, 06. Larger quantities will be available in April."

How limited? I need two of them in March. Which vendor do I talk to? I can pay for them today

.

Thx.

EcoTech Marine · 02/01/2006, 03:11 PM

I don't have any more information to present regarding how limited production will be or who will have it. I suggest you guys start talking to your LFS's or favorite mail order vendors; now that the MSRP has been set, the price you pay is determined by them.

-Tim

leftovers · 02/01/2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6642224#post6642224 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thrlride
do you have any estimates to what online and local shops are going to charge for these?

1 MILLION DOLLARS! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

thrlride · 02/01/2006, 03:29 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6642537#post6642537 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by leftovers
1 MILLION DOLLARS! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

That's a bargain!

Let me check my bank account.....

Can I have two please?

elephen · 02/01/2006, 04:17 PM

Cant wait to have a few!!

Willy315 · 02/01/2006, 07:08 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6641855#post6641855 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
We decided that since we never really got much interest in the VorTech pump, weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d release more information to stir up some excitement

The official Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the VorTech MP40 is $345.00. This price is a maximum suggested retail price; we do not impose price minimums. Price will vary from vendor to vendor.

Product will be available in limited quantities from specific vendors sometime in March, 06. Larger quantities will be available in April.

The product consumes between 35 and 40 watts of energy at its highest output, some pumps will operate at higher wattage during break in. Our lab tested flow rate is 3100 gph. During the development of this product we benchmarked it against several other products using a standard procedure to measure the flow rate of the pump. We found that some of our competitors were not hitting their claimed flow rate. The VorTech provides ~25% more flow then the performance we measured from our closest competitor, and does this at 10% less wattage, amounting to a product which is overall ~30% more efficient. Additionally, flow is capable of being turned down to approximately several hundred gallons per hour. This product is capable of being used on tanks as small as 20 gallons. How do we know? EcoTech Marine has been running it on a 29 gallon system for months.

We realize that manufacturersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ statements only mean so much to many of you. Third party testing is in process and will be published in the near future.

We sincerely appreciate all of the interest in this product and are looking forward to the coming months.

Best Regards,

Tim

Is the battery back-up included in the MSRP of $345 or will it be an additional cost?

smleee · 02/01/2006, 07:11 PM

Awesome.

I've been waiting for quite a while. After seeing the video, I don't know if one or two would be suitable for a 150g. I assume the flow rate can be controlled electronically, with just the base MP40?
eee

ycrazyy · 02/01/2006, 09:18 PM

The controller for the pump (obviously included with all the pumps) allows you to control the flow from somewhere around 30% to 100%.

carpetride · 02/01/2006, 09:22 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6645679#post6645679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ycrazyy
The controller for the pump (obviously included with all the pumps) allows you to control the flow from somewhere around 30% to 100%.

I think I may have mis-stated this in another thread somewhere. Notice above they mention several hundred gallons...so it sounds more like 10% on the bottom side. Could have swore I saw 30% in the original thread though.

ycrazyy · 02/02/2006, 08:32 AM

Well I have seen it going in person, it can definitely get pretty low. But there's no real way for me to say exactly what % that may be.

Either way, much more fun to see this thing on full blast.

mwood · 02/02/2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6645679#post6645679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ycrazyy
The controller for the pump (obviously included with all the pumps) allows you to control the flow from somewhere around 30% to 100%.

Will this controller be able to pulse?

maxxII · 02/02/2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6644409#post6644409 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Indy1
Is the battery back-up included in the MSRP of $345 or will it be an additional cost?

I'm curious about this as well. I was under the impression that the battery back up would be part of the pumps package. I'm not trying to nag or "get something for free" just seeking clarification as I might have misread things in the Icecap pump thread...

Thank you.

Nick

1SickReefer · 02/02/2006, 01:36 PM

I just looked over their website and from the way I read it, the battery BA will be additional to the actual pump cost.

from the website:
______________________________
Battery Backup Acessory
An IceCap, Inc. battery backup powers the EcoTech Marine VorTech Propeller Pump for up to 24-hours during a power outage emergency.
________________________________

Accessory, being the key word.. but this is just a guess.

But man this looks sweet, Esp for the inwall design ppl to be able to put it on all 3 sides.

Can you say no more dead spots! with the abialty to just 'slide' this thing around you tank walls you can put flow where ever you need it low or high,

the BB clan should be very happy with this. Mount to back wall on bottom and blast away.

EcoTech Marine · 02/02/2006, 01:37 PM

No advanced wave controllability is designed into the VorTech out of the box; only manual speed control.

The battery backup is an accessory to the VorTech pump. It will be sold in an enclosure with a charging circuit as a separate entity from the pump itself. The pump is capable of working with the battery backup out of the box.

-Tim

mwood · 02/02/2006, 01:40 PM

I thought this was able to pulse like a tunze? Can it be connected to a wavetimer without issues?

gobygoby · 02/02/2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650155#post6650155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwood
I thought this was able to pulse like a tunze? Can it be connected to a wavetimer without issues?

inquiring minds want to know

are there any plans to create "wave in a box "

EcoTech Marine · 02/02/2006, 01:49 PM

It will be able to pulse when our controller comes out within the next year. So far in testing there have been no issues with running this on a wave timer. We recommend an interval no shorter then 60 seconds.

-Tim

jdsabin1 · 02/02/2006, 01:56 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650139#post6650139 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
The battery backup is an accessory to the VorTech pump. It will be sold in an enclosure with a charging circuit as a separate entity from the pump itself. The pump is capable of working with the battery backup out of the box.

-Tim

Will this be available when the pumps are in the channel in March or do we have to wait? Approximately how much will this battery enclosure cost? Will a person need just one for multiple pumps or is it a 1:1 ratio?

Thank you.

-Jeff

EcoTech Marine · 02/02/2006, 02:03 PM

The battery will be available within the first few months of availability of the VorTech. There's a running competition to see whether IC or ETM get's their product on the shelves first

No idea of expected MSRP for the battery yet.

-Tim

smleee · 02/02/2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650131#post6650131 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbirdjjones10
But man this looks sweet, Esp for the inwall design ppl to be able to put it on all 3 sides.

Yep.

eee

mwood · 02/02/2006, 03:55 PM

Would they run on the bottom of a BB tank pointed up?

mattseattle · 02/02/2006, 04:44 PM

sure they would...

02/01/2006, 01:58 PM	#1
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	EcoTech Marine VorTech MP40 Release Information We decided that since we never really got much interest in the VorTech pump, weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d release more information to stir up some excitement The official Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the VorTech MP40 is $345.00. This price is a maximum suggested retail price; we do not impose price minimums. Price will vary from vendor to vendor. Product will be available in limited quantities from specific vendors sometime in March, 06. Larger quantities will be available in April. The product consumes between 35 and 40 watts of energy at its highest output, some pumps will operate at higher wattage during break in. Our lab tested flow rate is 3100 gph. During the development of this product we benchmarked it against several other products using a standard procedure to measure the flow rate of the pump. We found that some of our competitors were not hitting their claimed flow rate. The VorTech provides ~25% more flow then the performance we measured from our closest competitor, and does this at 10% less wattage, amounting to a product which is overall ~30% more efficient. Additionally, flow is capable of being turned down to approximately several hundred gallons per hour. This product is capable of being used on tanks as small as 20 gallons. How do we know? EcoTech Marine has been running it on a 29 gallon system for months. We realize that manufacturersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ statements only mean so much to many of you. Third party testing is in process and will be published in the near future. We sincerely appreciate all of the interest in this product and are looking forward to the coming months. Best Regards, Tim

02/01/2006, 02:24 PM	#2
Fliger Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 8,642	Hi Tim, will the battery back-up be available at the same time. I'd really like to pick one of these up with the back-up. Thanks! David __________________ Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional. Closed minds should come with closed mouths. When life hands you lemons, add vodka! Current Tank Info: Current: 210G Elos System, 2x400W + 6x54W Photon w/Aquaconnects, H&S skimmer, Deltec FR509/ROWAphos+Elos Carbon, 6101's and 6201's, Ocean GEOtronic 900 Chiller/Heater, Biotopus II Controller w/SMS. Elos System 70.

02/01/2006, 02:42 PM	#3
thrlride Aka lemmywinks Join Date: May 2003 Location: Harrisburg, NC Posts: 8,017	do you have any estimates to what online and local shops are going to charge for these? __________________ Beer Snob Current Tank Info: 210 gallon FOWLR (H&S 200a-1260 , panworld 50px-x, 2x Vortech w/ WWD)

02/01/2006, 02:50 PM	#4
jdsabin1 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, IA USA Posts: 809	"Product will be available in limited quantities from specific vendors sometime in March, 06. Larger quantities will be available in April." How limited? I need two of them in March. Which vendor do I talk to? I can pay for them today . Thx. __________________ Reefing Law #22: The more a coral costs, the greater the likelihood it will die in your tank. Current Tank Info: In-wall VHO LPS/Softie 150 Gallon Reef, 5g MaxiMini Carpet tank

02/01/2006, 03:11 PM	#5
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	I don't have any more information to present regarding how limited production will be or who will have it. I suggest you guys start talking to your LFS's or favorite mail order vendors; now that the MSRP has been set, the price you pay is determined by them. -Tim __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

02/01/2006, 04:17 PM	#8
elephen Moved On Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: kc Posts: 2,763	Cant wait to have a few!!

02/01/2006, 07:11 PM	#10
smleee Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,344	Awesome. I've been waiting for quite a while. After seeing the video, I don't know if one or two would be suitable for a 150g. I assume the flow rate can be controlled electronically, with just the base MP40? eee

02/01/2006, 09:18 PM	#11
ycrazyy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 327	The controller for the pump (obviously included with all the pumps) allows you to control the flow from somewhere around 30% to 100%.

02/02/2006, 08:32 AM	#13
ycrazyy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 327	Well I have seen it going in person, it can definitely get pretty low. But there's no real way for me to say exactly what % that may be. Either way, much more fun to see this thing on full blast.

02/02/2006, 01:36 PM	#16
1SickReefer Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perryville, MD Posts: 1,048	I just looked over their website and from the way I read it, the battery BA will be additional to the actual pump cost. from the website: ______________________________ Battery Backup Acessory An IceCap, Inc. battery backup powers the EcoTech Marine VorTech Propeller Pump for up to 24-hours during a power outage emergency. ________________________________ Accessory, being the key word.. but this is just a guess. But man this looks sweet, Esp for the inwall design ppl to be able to put it on all 3 sides. Can you say no more dead spots! with the abialty to just 'slide' this thing around you tank walls you can put flow where ever you need it low or high, the BB clan should be very happy with this. Mount to back wall on bottom and blast away.

02/02/2006, 01:37 PM	#17
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	No advanced wave controllability is designed into the VorTech out of the box; only manual speed control. The battery backup is an accessory to the VorTech pump. It will be sold in an enclosure with a charging circuit as a separate entity from the pump itself. The pump is capable of working with the battery backup out of the box. -Tim __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

02/02/2006, 01:40 PM	#18
mwood Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Winterset, IA 50273 Posts: 2,299	I thought this was able to pulse like a tunze? Can it be connected to a wavetimer without issues?

02/02/2006, 01:49 PM	#20
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	It will be able to pulse when our controller comes out within the next year. So far in testing there have been no issues with running this on a wave timer. We recommend an interval no shorter then 60 seconds. -Tim __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

02/02/2006, 02:03 PM	#22
EcoTech Marine RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 4,870	The battery will be available within the first few months of availability of the VorTech. There's a running competition to see whether IC or ETM get's their product on the shelves first No idea of expected MSRP for the battery yet. -Tim __________________ Tim Marks President EcoTech Marine www.ecotechmarine.com If the above information doesn't help you, please contact us at 1-800-785-0338 ext. 2 or by e-mailing [email]support@ecotech

02/02/2006, 03:55 PM	#24
mwood Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Winterset, IA 50273 Posts: 2,299	Would they run on the bottom of a BB tank pointed up?

02/02/2006, 04:44 PM	#25
mattseattle Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 1,332	sure they would...