Cryptic Fuge vs. Macro Fuge

kwgozy · 02/06/2006, 02:19 PM

Just wanting to get everyones opinion on which they use and why. Are you using it for a food source or a mean of nutriet export, or both. Or any opinions on these. I'm getting ready to set up the tank, and leaning towards the cryptic. Any info would be great. Thanks

Travis L. Stevens · 02/06/2006, 03:50 PM

I use it as a means of food, but I also have an algal scrubber in mine. So, both I guess.

Tunguska · 02/06/2006, 04:20 PM

I use mine (cryptic) for filtration. I just have small LR pieces in a sump, basically. I would grow cheato if I could fit a light under my stand.

HippieSmell · 02/07/2006, 04:29 PM

I have a DSB, rubble pile, and chaeto in mine. So both for me too.

bruffin · 02/10/2006, 01:43 PM

Use both. Having the cryptic helps filter out the water. The macro makes a good neutrient exporter and at night, when the PH typically drops, having the lights on in the fuge will keep it stable. Especially if you have macros growing in your main display - if not, keep the refuge lights on 24/7 - don't use Caulerpa.

A DSB with crptos and some chaeto will make for a really good refugium.

ruiny · 02/13/2006, 01:02 PM

Can a cryptic fuge help with filteration via live rock and sand as well as produce a food source, or do you need a light for the food animals?

MarkD40 · 02/23/2006, 11:57 AM

Sorry, but what is a cryptic refugium?

Agu · 02/23/2006, 12:17 PM

It's an unlit refugium that is intentionally dark to encourage the growth of sponges and tunicates as natural filtration.

My sump has thick chaeto that blocks light from the rock rubble beneath it so I could say I have both.

Shoestring Reefer · 02/24/2006, 07:31 PM

I have a 2-stage fuge. The first is chaeto, the second is LR with lots of sponges. The sponge section gets some light, I have some hitch hiker zoanthids in there that have stayed alive and colored up a bit.

View Poll Results: Which do you use?
Macro fuge	4	40.00%
cryptic	4	40.00%
none	2	20.00%
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02/06/2006, 02:19 PM	#1
kwgozy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio Posts: 479	Cryptic Fuge vs. Macro Fuge Just wanting to get everyones opinion on which they use and why. Are you using it for a food source or a mean of nutriet export, or both. Or any opinions on these. I'm getting ready to set up the tank, and leaning towards the cryptic. Any info would be great. Thanks __________________ kwgozy CORA Member Current Tank Info: 150 gl RR with daul over flows. 2 400wt 10,000k MH with 2 3' 96 wt .03 atinic, 2 Tunze 6100 streams with Multicontroller, Aquatronica controller, 75gl sump/fuge

02/06/2006, 03:50 PM	#2
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	I use it as a means of food, but I also have an algal scrubber in mine. So, both I guess. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

02/07/2006, 04:29 PM	#4
HippieSmell Occupy Reef Central Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Orbiting Posts: 4,141	I have a DSB, rubble pile, and chaeto in mine. So both for me too. __________________ Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like bananas. Current Tank Info: 78"x36"x27" acrylic, 6 Orphek Atlantik V3+ Compacts, MRC Orca Pro II w/washdown, CalcFeeder Pro AC3, Emperor Aquatics 80w UV, 80/20 aluminum stand, Vortech MP60's, Theiling Rollermat, GHL Profilux 3.1T EX, Kessil H380

02/13/2006, 01:02 PM	#6
ruiny Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 536	Can a cryptic fuge help with filteration via live rock and sand as well as produce a food source, or do you need a light for the food animals? __________________ Go Sens Go Current Tank Info: 93 mixed reef

02/06/2006, 04:20 PM	#3
Tunguska Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tuscaloosa Posts: 288	I use mine (cryptic) for filtration. I just have small LR pieces in a sump, basically. I would grow cheato if I could fit a light under my stand.

02/10/2006, 01:43 PM	#5
bruffin Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 114	Use both. Having the cryptic helps filter out the water. The macro makes a good neutrient exporter and at night, when the PH typically drops, having the lights on in the fuge will keep it stable. Especially if you have macros growing in your main display - if not, keep the refuge lights on 24/7 - don't use Caulerpa. A DSB with crptos and some chaeto will make for a really good refugium.

02/23/2006, 11:57 AM	#7
MarkD40 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 647	Sorry, but what is a cryptic refugium? __________________ My ship came in. Unfortunately it hit a reef. Current Tank Info: 110 gallon reef display tank, fish, LPS, SPS and mushrooms. A 75 gallon sump in basement with protein skimmer, 40watt UV sterilizer, RO/DI, refugium with chaeto, phosban reactor. 40 gallon frag tank.

02/23/2006, 12:17 PM	#8
Agu Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Sarasota, Florida Posts: 30,279	It's an unlit refugium that is intentionally dark to encourage the growth of sponges and tunicates as natural filtration. My sump has thick chaeto that blocks light from the rock rubble beneath it so I could say I have both. __________________ Less technology , more biology . Current Tank Info: 30 gallon half cube and 5.5, both reef tanks

02/24/2006, 07:31 PM	#9
Shoestring Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Westerly, RI Posts: 4,989	I have a 2-stage fuge. The first is chaeto, the second is LR with lots of sponges. The sponge section gets some light, I have some hitch hiker zoanthids in there that have stayed alive and colored up a bit. __________________ Mike Reefcentral Folding@Home team 37251 - Click my little red house to learn more and help medical science! Current Tank Info: 2, 20-gal low tech tanks