How to remove fish?

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 07:44 AM

I have a blue tang and flame angel I need to get into quarantine. Is there trick people have been successful with?

Blown 346 · 02/08/2006, 08:22 AM

You could try feeding them and net them while they are eating.

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 08:26 AM

I have had a net in the tank for a day or two and they won't get anywhere near the net, not even when feeding.

asphaltpilot · 02/08/2006, 09:18 AM

I never had luck with removing fish without stressing everthing to death. I'm sure some here would disagree with me, at that's fine, but I've come to the conclusion with my experience to let things run their course if the fish get sick *ducking to take cover*

Trying to get the fish out of tank is like putting your lifeforms through a hurricane, and if you do successfully remove the fish, there's no guarantee that:
The fish will beat the disease
The fish will remain healthy when it's re-introduced to the tank.

....just my 2 cents.

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 09:31 AM

How do you treat the Ick? If I let things run thier course won't the Ick eventually kill of all my fish? By not removing the fish do I really ever get rid of the Ick?

Your right about it being a real battle to get the fish out. I did a trial run outside of taking out all my rock I don't know how to get it done.

cruzin94066 · 02/08/2006, 09:36 AM

I always had bad luck trying to remove fish with the lights on or during the day when they were awake. What I did was i got a clear plastic container similiar to the ones you find at your LFS or like the ones for used to house hermit crabs or frogs and woke up early in the morning while the fish were sleeping and I scooped them up that way but still kept the container in the tank because I was afraid of shocking them if they were going into another tank right away and I just waited till they woke up and then I took them out of the tank.

asphaltpilot · 02/08/2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by atlfishes
How do you treat the Ick? If I let things run thier course won't the Ick eventually kill of all my fish? By not removing the fish do I really ever get rid of the Ick?

That's the hard part, especially if you have corals. By going through the madness of taking the fish out, you stress the other critters out which make them susceptible to disease. It's a risk either way.

A few companies do make coral safe ick treatment, but I've always been very weary of such chemicals. Do your research before you think of doing that though.

viceversabrd · 02/08/2006, 09:44 AM

The best tip I ever got for removing fish from a tank, Wait until the middle of the night when all the lights are off and the fish are happily sleeping. Then turn on all of the lights at once, this will not harm the fish but they will be in an unconscious daze. When I had to use this method I had a clown that slept behind a certain rock, so I flicked on the lights and then prodded him out from behind the rock with the handle end of a net. When he was out in the open I easily netted him. The daze will only last for 3 to 4 minutes. I highly reccomend trying this method and as I have found it to be the easiest and most stress free method of capturing fish.
viceversabrd

jscan1 · 02/08/2006, 09:45 AM

Blue Tangs are Notorious ick magnets....Cleaner Shrimps do a great job of cleaning up the white spots. I seem to have had success feeding garlic as well although its a contreveral subject...Also since I added Ozone have been ich free

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 10:23 AM

I actually have a cleaner shrimp. Not sure he's doing a good job, the fish never really seem interested in being cleaned.

Can the ick ever be really cured without the tank being dormate for six weeks?

pete123 · 02/08/2006, 11:18 AM

The trap is possibly the best way. I have used a modified trap, borrowed from my LFS, a hole is made near the back of the trap about 1/2" and a feed tube is inserted. Frozen brine is supplied through the tube and maybe you will get lucky. I did this with a foxface, I eventually caught him, but I caught many others first that I wanted to keep.

JaMan · 02/08/2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by viceversabrd
The best tip I ever got for removing fish from a tank, Wait until the middle of the night when all the lights are off and the fish are happily sleeping. Then turn on all of the lights at once, this will not harm the fish but they will be in an unconscious daze. When I had to use this method I had a clown that slept behind a certain rock, so I flicked on the lights and then prodded him out from behind the rock with the handle end of a net. When he was out in the open I easily netted him. The daze will only last for 3 to 4 minutes. I highly reccomend trying this method and as I have found it to be the easiest and most stress free method of capturing fish.
viceversabrd

great advise! I have been wondering how to catch a six line; he sleeps in the same place every night so I think this might work. Thanks!

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 12:02 PM

My tang does too but he is wedged underneath some rocks that makes it impossible to get to him. He won't leave under my terms. Worth a try, he might leave if dazed.

capefear · 02/08/2006, 01:12 PM

fish trap

atlfishes · 02/08/2006, 01:28 PM

Which trap works best?

jaccoo · 02/08/2006, 01:42 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=707656

ClubReef · 02/08/2006, 02:03 PM

I just caught my damsel last night using a fish trap. I made the trap out of a 2liter coke bottle. Cut the top part of the plastic bottle, reverse it and insert it back into the hole so you have an inverted funnel (cut the hole big enough for your target)..I used plastic ties to keep the funnel in place. Next tie on fishing line to the bottle so you can lift it out when the fish appoaches.. Insert a frozen cube of food (food will release slowly in the bottle this way)..drop the trap near the fishes favorite spot..when he peeks into the funnel (he doesn't have to go in all the way) pull on the fish line to lift up the trap...the fish will dart downwards and then get confused.

This is how I caught my damsel...took me 5 minutes after dropping the trap.

Good luck

02/08/2006, 07:44 AM	#1
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	How to remove fish? I have a blue tang and flame angel I need to get into quarantine. Is there trick people have been successful with?

02/08/2006, 09:18 AM	#4
asphaltpilot Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL Posts: 126	I never had luck with removing fish without stressing everthing to death. I'm sure some here would disagree with me, at that's fine, but I've come to the conclusion with my experience to let things run their course if the fish get sick ducking to take cover Trying to get the fish out of tank is like putting your lifeforms through a hurricane, and if you do successfully remove the fish, there's no guarantee that: The fish will beat the disease The fish will remain healthy when it's re-introduced to the tank. ....just my 2 cents. __________________ Happiness is: the R6Network.com forum Current Tank Info: Helping a buddy out

02/08/2006, 09:44 AM	#8
viceversabrd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 296	The best tip I ever got for removing fish from a tank, Wait until the middle of the night when all the lights are off and the fish are happily sleeping. Then turn on all of the lights at once, this will not harm the fish but they will be in an unconscious daze. When I had to use this method I had a clown that slept behind a certain rock, so I flicked on the lights and then prodded him out from behind the rock with the handle end of a net. When he was out in the open I easily netted him. The daze will only last for 3 to 4 minutes. I highly reccomend trying this method and as I have found it to be the easiest and most stress free method of capturing fish. viceversabrd __________________ 55 gal FOWLR, 260w pc's, 100 lbs. live rock Current Tank Info: FOWLR

02/08/2006, 09:45 AM	#9
jscan1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 99	Blue Tangs Blue Tangs are Notorious ick magnets....Cleaner Shrimps do a great job of cleaning up the white spots. I seem to have had success feeding garlic as well although its a contreveral subject...Also since I added Ozone have been ich free

02/08/2006, 11:18 AM	#11
pete123 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 183	The trap is possibly the best way. I have used a modified trap, borrowed from my LFS, a hole is made near the back of the trap about 1/2" and a feed tube is inserted. Frozen brine is supplied through the tube and maybe you will get lucky. I did this with a foxface, I eventually caught him, but I caught many others first that I wanted to keep. __________________ Half owner of the forbidden doughnut Current Tank Info: 240 fish and coral, H&S Skimmer in sump, 40gal fuge.

02/08/2006, 08:22 AM	#2
Blown 346 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 6,596	You could try feeding them and net them while they are eating.

02/08/2006, 08:26 AM	#3
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	I have had a net in the tank for a day or two and they won't get anywhere near the net, not even when feeding.

02/08/2006, 09:31 AM	#5
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	How do you treat the Ick? If I let things run thier course won't the Ick eventually kill of all my fish? By not removing the fish do I really ever get rid of the Ick? Your right about it being a real battle to get the fish out. I did a trial run outside of taking out all my rock I don't know how to get it done.

02/08/2006, 09:36 AM	#6
cruzin94066 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 116	I always had bad luck trying to remove fish with the lights on or during the day when they were awake. What I did was i got a clear plastic container similiar to the ones you find at your LFS or like the ones for used to house hermit crabs or frogs and woke up early in the morning while the fish were sleeping and I scooped them up that way but still kept the container in the tank because I was afraid of shocking them if they were going into another tank right away and I just waited till they woke up and then I took them out of the tank.

02/08/2006, 10:23 AM	#10
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	I actually have a cleaner shrimp. Not sure he's doing a good job, the fish never really seem interested in being cleaned. Can the ick ever be really cured without the tank being dormate for six weeks?

02/08/2006, 12:02 PM	#13
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	My tang does too but he is wedged underneath some rocks that makes it impossible to get to him. He won't leave under my terms. Worth a try, he might leave if dazed.

02/08/2006, 01:12 PM	#14
capefear Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 263	fish trap

02/08/2006, 01:28 PM	#15
atlfishes Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 267	Which trap works best?

02/08/2006, 01:42 PM	#16
jaccoo Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 39	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=707656

02/08/2006, 02:03 PM	#17
ClubReef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 87	I just caught my damsel last night using a fish trap. I made the trap out of a 2liter coke bottle. Cut the top part of the plastic bottle, reverse it and insert it back into the hole so you have an inverted funnel (cut the hole big enough for your target)..I used plastic ties to keep the funnel in place. Next tie on fishing line to the bottle so you can lift it out when the fish appoaches.. Insert a frozen cube of food (food will release slowly in the bottle this way)..drop the trap near the fishes favorite spot..when he peeks into the funnel (he doesn't have to go in all the way) pull on the fish line to lift up the trap...the fish will dart downwards and then get confused. This is how I caught my damsel...took me 5 minutes after dropping the trap. Good luck