12 gal aquarium I'm thinking of getting.

justagirl992 · 02/14/2006, 01:53 PM

http://www.thatpetplace.com/MainPro/...03DA+0221+0366

Anyone know anything about this aquarium? It's $80 at the LFS and I think it would be perfect for me. Thanks..

asmodeus · 02/14/2006, 02:00 PM

Well if you are serious about getting a tank then invest in the JBJ 24 gal nano tanks. I think it would benifit you alot more alittle more room for error too. if you are starting out. I really think that starting out with a bigger tank is the best way to learn salt water.

The reason that they say start with the biggest you can afford is the reason is.
The more water the less chance that you will have a problem the will hit you in the face a day later. I hope this makes sense to ya kido.... All i'm sayign is the smaller the tank the quicker the water parameter's change. ANd more likely that you will get hit with a disease.

All i think if you wanna try it i can't stop you in getting it ,but if you are going to get one gethte JBJB 24 gal nano tank its more compact too..

Mike

good luck

kstuart · 02/14/2006, 02:01 PM

I would say no to that tank, You'll be upgrading the lighting and ripping out the biowheel faster then you know, if you really want a 12g spend a little extra ($129) and buy a "Current USA Aquapod 12" Its got the right lights for reefs and it has a more versital filter setup. I have an aquapod as one of my tanks so I can vouch for them.

justagirl992 · 02/14/2006, 02:03 PM

Well, I had an aquarium before and it was just a 5 gal. I don't know, I don't really wanna venture and get something too much bigger. I had my 5 gal for about 2 yrs. I think something died, spiked my tank..and eh, you know how it goes. I like small fish like gobies/blennies, and soft corals. I may look at the 24 gal, Thanks.

justagirl992 · 02/14/2006, 02:05 PM

Actually, that Aquapod was another option. As I was told that many RC people prefer those.

asmodeus · 02/14/2006, 02:06 PM

Nano's tanks are for people that have started in and have their foot into the hobby and with that being said ,they have treid the hobby out for a little while.

I'm not saying that your crappy at this hobby, but if you look at my signature at the bottom of my post i think i cover what it says, Don't take it to heart ....

Doesn't matter how much you have been reading , until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think.....

mike

keeperofthefish · 02/14/2006, 02:12 PM

The common wisdom is not to start with less than a 40 gallon tank. It really is far LESS work and with GREATER returns that guarantee you'll stay in the hobby and won't have wasted your money on the nano to begin with. Save up, plan, and you'll thank yourself for years to come. Patience is difficult, I know. I am still setting up a tank I have been dreaming about for a year.

Pandora · 02/14/2006, 02:13 PM

I started out with an Eclipse 12gal (alongside a 55gal which was my first tank) and know others that have. I bought mine for only $50 on sale, and at this price, I still wouldn't recommend it as a nano. There are a lot of things that are not ideal for the reef setting, including the lighting and filtration system. I spent extra just to retrofit power compacts in, and it worked for keeping a pair of harlequins for some time (see gallery). Again, there are better solutions for nanos for your money, including some that the others mentioned for just over $100... these are specially fitted so that they are reef ready... the Eclipses are not the best nano reef systems (because of the lighting & biowheel issues mentioned.

As I think has been mentioned already in this thread, nanos are not ideal systems for beginners to start with, go bigger if you want more water stability. This is not to say it can't be done; there are success stories and you can go to nano-reef and the nano forum here to read about them and get suggestions. However, larger systems may seem more hassle to start up; but you will find they are much less of a pain to manage in the long run.

kstuart · 02/14/2006, 02:14 PM

Agreed...I actually bought a 75g and then bought a aquapod just to make sure i like the hobby and can handle it. If i can keep the aquapod then the 75 should be even easier. With that being said I also decided that 75 won't be big enough for what I like so its for sale for a 6ft tank. The bigger the easier they are but if you do go with a small nano tank, make sure to read up on keeping a small tank, its a whole different beast then a big tank.

justagirl992 · 02/14/2006, 02:30 PM

I guess I got a lot of negative responses on my post. Um, maybe I need to give more information. I'm not a beginner. I've been going to LFS and talking to people, reading info for several yrs now. I've also been in the same home with a 10 gal, 30 gal, my 5 gal, my boyfriends 30 gal now and my parents 40 gal. I'm pretty familier with salt water stuff, in general. I know I'll need some help getting the aquarium cycled and such. But I wouldn't really think of myself as a beginner. I know not to buy stuff unless you know it's reef safe and know alittle something about the animal. Now, the only aquarium I have personally owned was the 5 gal but I've helped out with several different systems. A small Nano is just my preference, as I want to have it in a small area in the living room along with the 20 gal salt and 30 gal fresh. Oh, and I also recently became an Open water diver and am a volunteer at the Georgia Aquarium. Marine Science was going to be my career but because I'm in Atlanta..well you know the drill. Sorry I didn't give more info on my background.

Pandora · 02/14/2006, 02:34 PM

Sorry we assumed so much, justagirl, sort of have to go with the lowest common denominator in the newbie lounge. I still stand by my statements about the Eclipse, though. You should go for the nano if that's your preference, but I personally think you will get more mileage out of another brand with better lighting and an internal overflow

justagirl992 · 02/14/2006, 02:37 PM

Pandora, Alright, thanks! I forgot I was in the new people lounge. I guess that makes sense for people to assume.

asmodeus · 02/14/2006, 02:38 PM

JBJ are really good 24 gal .....lots of good reviews ,

But its going to come down to 1 thing what do you wanna get and spend.

people here on Reef central are just a opinion that sits here

good luck

02/14/2006, 01:53 PM	#1
justagirl992 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	12 gal aquarium I'm thinking of getting. http://www.thatpetplace.com/MainPro/...03DA+0221+0366 Anyone know anything about this aquarium? It's $80 at the LFS and I think it would be perfect for me. Thanks..

02/14/2006, 02:00 PM	#2
asmodeus SKIMMER WHORE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada Posts: 1,564	Well if you are serious about getting a tank then invest in the JBJ 24 gal nano tanks. I think it would benifit you alot more alittle more room for error too. if you are starting out. I really think that starting out with a bigger tank is the best way to learn salt water. The reason that they say start with the biggest you can afford is the reason is. The more water the less chance that you will have a problem the will hit you in the face a day later. I hope this makes sense to ya kido.... All i'm sayign is the smaller the tank the quicker the water parameter's change. ANd more likely that you will get hit with a disease. All i think if you wanna try it i can't stop you in getting it ,but if you are going to get one gethte JBJB 24 gal nano tank its more compact too.. Mike good luck __________________ Doesn't matter how much you have been reading, until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think. Moved from the WEST to the EAST

02/14/2006, 02:01 PM	#3
kstuart Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 413	I would say no to that tank, You'll be upgrading the lighting and ripping out the biowheel faster then you know, if you really want a 12g spend a little extra ($129) and buy a "Current USA Aquapod 12" Its got the right lights for reefs and it has a more versital filter setup. I have an aquapod as one of my tanks so I can vouch for them. __________________ Computers allow us to make mistakes faster then any other invention in history....except for tequila and handguns Current Tank Info: 90g RR Display, 2x250w PFO HQI MH's, Phoenix 14k, ASM G3, ACJR, Tunzes/Multi Controller, Kalk Reactor, Basement Sump Room

02/14/2006, 02:06 PM	#6
asmodeus SKIMMER WHORE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada Posts: 1,564	Nano's tanks are for people that have started in and have their foot into the hobby and with that being said ,they have treid the hobby out for a little while. I'm not saying that your crappy at this hobby, but if you look at my signature at the bottom of my post i think i cover what it says, Don't take it to heart .... Doesn't matter how much you have been reading , until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think..... mike __________________ Doesn't matter how much you have been reading, until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think. Moved from the WEST to the EAST

02/14/2006, 02:13 PM	#8
Pandora Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland near DC Posts: 1,706	I started out with an Eclipse 12gal (alongside a 55gal which was my first tank) and know others that have. I bought mine for only $50 on sale, and at this price, I still wouldn't recommend it as a nano. There are a lot of things that are not ideal for the reef setting, including the lighting and filtration system. I spent extra just to retrofit power compacts in, and it worked for keeping a pair of harlequins for some time (see gallery). Again, there are better solutions for nanos for your money, including some that the others mentioned for just over $100... these are specially fitted so that they are reef ready... the Eclipses are not the best nano reef systems (because of the lighting & biowheel issues mentioned. As I think has been mentioned already in this thread, nanos are not ideal systems for beginners to start with, go bigger if you want more water stability. This is not to say it can't be done; there are success stories and you can go to nano-reef and the nano forum here to read about them and get suggestions. However, larger systems may seem more hassle to start up; but you will find they are much less of a pain to manage in the long run. __________________ Where are we going... And why am I in this handbasket? Current Tank Info: 75gal reef tank, 30 gal octopus tank, Other: 75gal planted Amazon tank

02/14/2006, 02:03 PM	#4
justagirl992 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	Well, I had an aquarium before and it was just a 5 gal. I don't know, I don't really wanna venture and get something too much bigger. I had my 5 gal for about 2 yrs. I think something died, spiked my tank..and eh, you know how it goes. I like small fish like gobies/blennies, and soft corals. I may look at the 24 gal, Thanks.

02/14/2006, 02:05 PM	#5
justagirl992 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	Actually, that Aquapod was another option. As I was told that many RC people prefer those.

02/14/2006, 02:12 PM	#7
keeperofthefish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 228	The common wisdom is not to start with less than a 40 gallon tank. It really is far LESS work and with GREATER returns that guarantee you'll stay in the hobby and won't have wasted your money on the nano to begin with. Save up, plan, and you'll thank yourself for years to come. Patience is difficult, I know. I am still setting up a tank I have been dreaming about for a year.

02/14/2006, 02:14 PM	#9
kstuart Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 413	Agreed...I actually bought a 75g and then bought a aquapod just to make sure i like the hobby and can handle it. If i can keep the aquapod then the 75 should be even easier. With that being said I also decided that 75 won't be big enough for what I like so its for sale for a 6ft tank. The bigger the easier they are but if you do go with a small nano tank, make sure to read up on keeping a small tank, its a whole different beast then a big tank. __________________ Computers allow us to make mistakes faster then any other invention in history....except for tequila and handguns Current Tank Info: 90g RR Display, 2x250w PFO HQI MH's, Phoenix 14k, ASM G3, ACJR, Tunzes/Multi Controller, Kalk Reactor, Basement Sump Room

02/14/2006, 02:30 PM	#10
justagirl992 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	I guess I got a lot of negative responses on my post. Um, maybe I need to give more information. I'm not a beginner. I've been going to LFS and talking to people, reading info for several yrs now. I've also been in the same home with a 10 gal, 30 gal, my 5 gal, my boyfriends 30 gal now and my parents 40 gal. I'm pretty familier with salt water stuff, in general. I know I'll need some help getting the aquarium cycled and such. But I wouldn't really think of myself as a beginner. I know not to buy stuff unless you know it's reef safe and know alittle something about the animal. Now, the only aquarium I have personally owned was the 5 gal but I've helped out with several different systems. A small Nano is just my preference, as I want to have it in a small area in the living room along with the 20 gal salt and 30 gal fresh. Oh, and I also recently became an Open water diver and am a volunteer at the Georgia Aquarium. Marine Science was going to be my career but because I'm in Atlanta..well you know the drill. Sorry I didn't give more info on my background.

02/14/2006, 02:34 PM	#11
Pandora Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland near DC Posts: 1,706	Sorry we assumed so much, justagirl, sort of have to go with the lowest common denominator in the newbie lounge. I still stand by my statements about the Eclipse, though. You should go for the nano if that's your preference, but I personally think you will get more mileage out of another brand with better lighting and an internal overflow __________________ Where are we going... And why am I in this handbasket? Current Tank Info: 75gal reef tank, 30 gal octopus tank, Other: 75gal planted Amazon tank

02/14/2006, 02:37 PM	#12
justagirl992 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18	Pandora, Alright, thanks! I forgot I was in the new people lounge. I guess that makes sense for people to assume.

02/14/2006, 02:38 PM	#13
asmodeus SKIMMER WHORE Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada Posts: 1,564	JBJ are really good 24 gal .....lots of good reviews , But its going to come down to 1 thing what do you wanna get and spend. people here on Reef central are just a opinion that sits here good luck __________________ Doesn't matter how much you have been reading, until you take the plunge. You don't know as much as you think. Moved from the WEST to the EAST