Quiet, Energy Efficient & Releases VERY LITTLE Heat Submersible Pump?

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 03:28 PM

Anyone have suggestions for a Quiet, Energy Efficient & Releases VERY LITTLE Heat Submersible Pump? I'm using a Mag7(700 gph), too noisey, so I definitely don't want to upgrade to the Mag9.5. I used a DolphinDP800 (800gph) that put too much heat back into the tank. Looking for something around 900+gph, but don't want to have a big electic bill either.

BlueCorn · 02/15/2006, 03:29 PM

Virtually every watt consumed by the pump will end up as heat in the tank. If you're looking for lowest heat, check the wattage rating on the pumps that you're looking at.

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 03:33 PM

I switched from a Mag7 to an Eheim 1260 for noise reasons. Besides being (MUCH) quieter, it totally blows away the Mag7 in flow despite what the paper numbers would indicate.

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by beerguy
Virtually every watt consumed by the pump will end up as heat in the tank. If you're looking for lowest heat, check the wattage rating on the pumps that you're looking at.

Thanks for the quick response. I'm looking at the wattage for heat right now and the Mag7 is 70watts and the DolphinDP800 is also 70 watts. Hummm, but I know the Dolphin builds up heat and the Mag7 doesn't really do anything significant to increase heat, just that it is so noisey. Also, looking for something stronger than 700gph.

Kinetic · 02/15/2006, 03:39 PM

Quiet one pumps

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by HappyReefer2
Also, looking for something stronger than 700gph.

Forgetting the advertised numbers for a moment...are you looking for stronger than 700 GPH or stronger than a Mag7?

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by sjm817
I switched from a Mag7 to an Eheim 1260 for noise reasons. Besides being (MUCH) quieter, it totally blows away the Mag7 in flow despite what the paper numbers would indicate.

Eheim 1260 is 65watts. Well, little better than Mag or Dolphin. Rating is only 635gph. Maybe the 1262.

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 03:45 PM

Again...

Forget the ratings. The 1260 smokes a Mag7. It flows way more in real applications. A few people on this board have made the switch and all have been very impressed with both the noise reduction and the big increase in flow.

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by koden
Quiet one pumps

I have a Quiet One 3000 with a SCWD for water movement inside the tank. I tried to put in sump for recirculating water back into the tank, it couldn't handle the back pressure... was down to almost nothing. Anyone have specs on wattage for the Quiet One 4000 High Head, that might work, but I can find any info on how watts it uses which will also translate back to how much heat it puts back into the tank.

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 03:49 PM

I think the big difference is an Eheim doesn't fall flat on its face under head pressure like a Mag or QO pump. They actually have good flow when you do silly things to them like add plumbing and 4' of pumping height.

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by sjm817
Again...

Forget the ratings. The 1260 smokes a Mag7. It flows way more in real applications. A few people on this board have made the switch and all have been very impressed with both the noise reduction and the big increase in flow.

I'll look into this pump some more, sounds good. I'll do a search tonight on Eheim 1260. 65watts is good... and QUIET is even better. So this pump can handle back pressure in returning water from sump back into the tank...

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 03:53 PM

I think the Eheim is the only or at least one of the very few submersible pumps out there that can handle head pressure. It is very quiet and extremely reliable. People have had them running over 10 years. From everything I've seen they are the best submersible pump available.

I see WAY too many posts about QO pumps not starting. I woun't touch one myself. I'd rather use a Mag. At least they are reliable.

ErikS · 02/15/2006, 03:58 PM

And I'll second it

Toss out truly expensive pumps like Red Dragon and it pretty much boils down to there's Eheim & everyone else.

A 1262 would be WAY more flow than a MAG9.5 or Quietone equivilent. I have no proof but I suspect it's because Eheim rates the pump with the actual output size.....where companies like Danner (MAG) rate them with double or larger.

Eheim - dead quiet, move a lot of water for the watts consumed, and have a track record of running more than a decade w/o a problem.

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by ErikS
And I'll second it

Toss out truly expensive pumps like Red Dragon and it pretty much boils down to there's Eheim & everyone else.

A 1262 would be WAY more flow than a MAG9.5 or Quietone equivilent. I have no proof but I suspect it's because Eheim rates the pump with the actual output size.....where companies like Danner (MAG) rate them with double or larger.

Eheim - dead quiet, move a lot of water for the watts consumed, and have a track record of running more than a decade w/o a problem.

Sounds Great! Anyone know where I can get at a decent price and reliable seller?

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 04:06 PM

I like Premium Aquatics and shipping from them is good for me on the east, but I think Marine Depot has it on sale right now.

HappyReefer2 · 02/15/2006, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the tips guys. I found it on Marine Depot for $110 and Custom Aquatics for $108... so looks like both have it on special right now.

dattack · 02/15/2006, 04:53 PM

HOw about Oceanrunner pumps? They have a pretty decent heard pressure also.

sjm817 · 02/15/2006, 04:53 PM

To me, Eheim is like Tunze and Deltec. You pay a little more, but it is well worth it.

BTW, you dont need to use the barb fitting it comes with. You can thread in a 3/4" MPT fitting. Use a sched 80 fitting since it has longer threads than a sched 40. Wrap it up with a few winds of Teflon tape and it will work great.

techrider62 · 02/16/2006, 03:41 PM

I like the quiet ones

jacmyoung · 02/16/2006, 06:05 PM

I replaced my Mag12 (110w) with a Eheim1262 (80w). The Mag was very quiet, but I suspect it added too much heat to my tank and I needed a backup pump anyway.

The Eheim1262 has a little less flow than the Mag12, equally quiet, and put less heat in the tank. I often hear people with smaller Mag pumps complaining about the noise but the Mag12 was the quietest pump I have.

cateyes · 02/16/2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by sjm817

BTW, you dont need to use the barb fitting it comes with. You can thread in a 3/4" MPT fitting. Use a sched 80 fitting since it has longer threads than a sched 40. Wrap it up with a few winds of Teflon tape and it will work great.

which Eheim will this work with?? the 1260 or 1262??

i'm using the 1250 as the sump return on my 29 and love it.. i'll be using another Eheim on my 75 when i get it set up with a external overflow and sump.... unfortunatly it's not drilled...

ChemE · 02/23/2006, 06:02 AM

You might check this pump out too. Its flow curve and power consumption are insane.
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...Category_Code=
http://www.bluelineaquatics.com/prod...r_pump/ns.html

At 4' of head you're looking at not quite 800 gpm but it only draws 40 watts! Might be a real possibility.

doox00 · 02/23/2006, 09:03 AM

would I need the 1260 or the 1262, which one would work best? I would be using this for a 90g all glass mega flow tank in a 30 gallon sump in the stand.

CW from the OC · 02/23/2006, 11:50 AM

Eheim 1260 is the best for your application. Worth the extra $$.

sjm817 · 02/23/2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by cateyes
which Eheim will this work with?? the 1260 or 1262??

Both

Quote:

Originally posted by doox00
would I need the 1260 or the 1262, which one would work best? I would be using this for a 90g all glass mega flow tank in a 30 gallon sump in the stand.

1260

02/15/2006, 03:28 PM	#1
HappyReefer2 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt View CA Posts: 157	Quiet, Energy Efficient & Releases VERY LITTLE Heat Submersible Pump? Anyone have suggestions for a Quiet, Energy Efficient & Releases VERY LITTLE Heat Submersible Pump? I'm using a Mag7(700 gph), too noisey, so I definitely don't want to upgrade to the Mag9.5. I used a DolphinDP800 (800gph) that put too much heat back into the tank. Looking for something around 900+gph, but don't want to have a big electic bill either.

02/15/2006, 03:29 PM	#2
BlueCorn Retired Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,908	Virtually every watt consumed by the pump will end up as heat in the tank. If you're looking for lowest heat, check the wattage rating on the pumps that you're looking at. __________________ Doug [I]Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made when establishing tonal relationships. ~ Ansel Adams[/I]

02/15/2006, 03:33 PM	#3
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	I switched from a Mag7 to an Eheim 1260 for noise reasons. Besides being (MUCH) quieter, it totally blows away the Mag7 in flow despite what the paper numbers would indicate. __________________ - Scott

02/15/2006, 03:45 PM	#8
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	Again... Forget the ratings. The 1260 smokes a Mag7. It flows way more in real applications. A few people on this board have made the switch and all have been very impressed with both the noise reduction and the big increase in flow. __________________ - Scott

02/15/2006, 03:49 PM	#10
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	I think the big difference is an Eheim doesn't fall flat on its face under head pressure like a Mag or QO pump. They actually have good flow when you do silly things to them like add plumbing and 4' of pumping height. __________________ - Scott

02/15/2006, 03:39 PM	#5
Kinetic Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 7,230	Quiet one pumps

02/15/2006, 03:53 PM	#12
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	I think the Eheim is the only or at least one of the very few submersible pumps out there that can handle head pressure. It is very quiet and extremely reliable. People have had them running over 10 years. From everything I've seen they are the best submersible pump available. I see WAY too many posts about QO pumps not starting. I woun't touch one myself. I'd rather use a Mag. At least they are reliable. __________________ - Scott

02/15/2006, 03:58 PM	#13
ErikS Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: VA Posts: 2,199	And I'll second it Toss out truly expensive pumps like Red Dragon and it pretty much boils down to there's Eheim & everyone else. A 1262 would be WAY more flow than a MAG9.5 or Quietone equivilent. I have no proof but I suspect it's because Eheim rates the pump with the actual output size.....where companies like Danner (MAG) rate them with double or larger. Eheim - dead quiet, move a lot of water for the watts consumed, and have a track record of running more than a decade w/o a problem. __________________ It's just my opinion & it's worth exactly what you paid for it

02/15/2006, 04:06 PM	#15
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	I like Premium Aquatics and shipping from them is good for me on the east, but I think Marine Depot has it on sale right now. __________________ - Scott

02/15/2006, 04:48 PM	#16
HappyReefer2 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt View CA Posts: 157	Eheim 1260 Thanks for the tips guys. I found it on Marine Depot for $110 and Custom Aquatics for $108... so looks like both have it on special right now.

02/15/2006, 04:53 PM	#17
dattack Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 4,992	HOw about Oceanrunner pumps? They have a pretty decent heard pressure also.

02/16/2006, 03:41 PM	#19
techrider62 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: nj Posts: 129	I like the quiet ones __________________ Techrider62

02/16/2006, 06:05 PM	#20
jacmyoung Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,421	I replaced my Mag12 (110w) with a Eheim1262 (80w). The Mag was very quiet, but I suspect it added too much heat to my tank and I needed a backup pump anyway. The Eheim1262 has a little less flow than the Mag12, equally quiet, and put less heat in the tank. I often hear people with smaller Mag pumps complaining about the noise but the Mag12 was the quietest pump I have.

02/23/2006, 06:02 AM	#22
ChemE Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Nashville, TN Posts: 1,607	You might check this pump out too. Its flow curve and power consumption are insane. http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...Category_Code= http://www.bluelineaquatics.com/prod...r_pump/ns.html At 4' of head you're looking at not quite 800 gpm but it only draws 40 watts! Might be a real possibility. __________________ Holding it down on the engineering tip y'all Current Tank Info: 190G

02/23/2006, 09:03 AM	#23
doox00 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Michigan Posts: 928	would I need the 1260 or the 1262, which one would work best? I would be using this for a 90g all glass mega flow tank in a 30 gallon sump in the stand.

02/23/2006, 11:50 AM	#24
CW from the OC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 853	Eheim 1260 is the best for your application. Worth the extra $$. __________________ Cheers! C Dub Current Tank Info: 210 LeeMar starfire reef (7x2x2), 100 gal SoCalCreations sump, Aquacontroller 3, Geo 618 fed by Cole Parmer peri pump, ATB Large Cone , Aquatinics Constellation T5, 4 Vortecs with wireless controllers, Eheim 1262 return on a SeaSwirl