Plumbing Help

Fragmented 99 · 02/15/2006, 09:10 PM

Will be setting up a 120 gallon 48x24x24 with overflow and sump and I'm not sure the best way to plumb this, Ball valves? Gate Valves , check valves float switch etc.

The Bulkhead in the bottom of the tank will be 1 1/2 inch
This will flow directly into the sump and feed an ASM G2 Skimmer.
ASM has a sedra 3500 that will draw from the sump water.

For the return I wa thinking of a quiet one 4000 going into a SCWD then into the tank. For internal circulation 2 Seio 1100.

What type of valves do I need and where should I put them .

How about a float valve, Where and what brand

Thanks
Tony

bkwudzjeep · 02/15/2006, 09:21 PM

I usually use ball valves, or union ball valves. Check valves tend to leak and I have never used a gate valve.

Put valves anywhere you can think you may want to stop water while you maintain your tank or possibly even make a water change easier.

Saaack · 02/16/2006, 12:56 PM

Skip the SCWD. I tried one. Won't flow enough to make any difference in a 120. Made for small tanks. I had mine hooked up to a GEN-X PCX30 (1190 GPH @ 0 head) and it choked it down to about 50%. Also due to the high input, every time it changed directions it rattled and shuttered internally. Very annoying.

Two Seio 1100 will provide enough turnover. Don't waste you money on the SCWD.

Does your 120 have single overflow? I put a ball valve on the return to throttle back the return pump. You don't need one on your drain. Gate valves offer more precise flow control (like on a skimmer feed), but I like ball valves because I can visualize the valve position by looking at them.

Fragmented 99 · 02/16/2006, 05:58 PM

anyone else heard of these being noisy?

$$sucker · 02/16/2006, 07:58 PM

I just hooked up a scwd on a hob cloosed loop 2 days ago. my quiet one 3000 is louder that the scwd it does make a little sound.the paper that came with the scwd says to clean by flushing once in awhile i'm asuming with vinegar and water

COONREEF · 02/16/2006, 08:07 PM

I used all ball values when plumbing mine and I liked them because they allowed me to regulate the flow how I wanted. I have a design of my plumbing if you want. Let me know and I will send it to you

02/15/2006, 09:10 PM	#1
Fragmented 99 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Selden, LI Posts: 722	Plumbing Help Will be setting up a 120 gallon 48x24x24 with overflow and sump and I'm not sure the best way to plumb this, Ball valves? Gate Valves , check valves float switch etc. The Bulkhead in the bottom of the tank will be 1 1/2 inch This will flow directly into the sump and feed an ASM G2 Skimmer. ASM has a sedra 3500 that will draw from the sump water. For the return I wa thinking of a quiet one 4000 going into a SCWD then into the tank. For internal circulation 2 Seio 1100. What type of valves do I need and where should I put them . How about a float valve, Where and what brand Thanks Tony

02/15/2006, 09:21 PM	#2
bkwudzjeep O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,078	I usually use ball valves, or union ball valves. Check valves tend to leak and I have never used a gate valve. Put valves anywhere you can think you may want to stop water while you maintain your tank or possibly even make a water change easier. __________________ "You can lead a horse to water, but a pencil must be lead." ~Laurel and Hardy Current Tank Info: Taking a break for a while

02/16/2006, 05:58 PM	#4
Fragmented 99 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Selden, LI Posts: 722	scwd noise anyone else heard of these being noisy?

02/16/2006, 07:58 PM	#5
$$sucker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: watertucky,michigan Posts: 62	I just hooked up a scwd on a hob cloosed loop 2 days ago. my quiet one 3000 is louder that the scwd it does make a little sound.the paper that came with the scwd says to clean by flushing once in awhile i'm asuming with vinegar and water __________________ I may not agree with what you have to say,but i will fight to death your right to say it. Current Tank Info: 72 bowfront,29 refuge,2x250MH 14k, 4x65 cf,asm-g2,36 watt uv, 115 lbs lr,3inch sand bed (agonite reef),running 4years as fowlr now becoming a reef

02/16/2006, 12:56 PM	#3
Saaack Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 57	Skip the SCWD. I tried one. Won't flow enough to make any difference in a 120. Made for small tanks. I had mine hooked up to a GEN-X PCX30 (1190 GPH @ 0 head) and it choked it down to about 50%. Also due to the high input, every time it changed directions it rattled and shuttered internally. Very annoying. Two Seio 1100 will provide enough turnover. Don't waste you money on the SCWD. Does your 120 have single overflow? I put a ball valve on the return to throttle back the return pump. You don't need one on your drain. Gate valves offer more precise flow control (like on a skimmer feed), but I like ball valves because I can visualize the valve position by looking at them.

02/16/2006, 08:07 PM	#6
COONREEF Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 59	I used all ball values when plumbing mine and I liked them because they allowed me to regulate the flow how I wanted. I have a design of my plumbing if you want. Let me know and I will send it to you