Phosphate media

SAJJ22 · 03/03/2006, 01:10 PM

Has anyone had better results with one product versus another when using a phosphate remover? I now am using a Phos ban Reactor 150 and would like to use the mostefficient product.

Phosban, Phosguard, Phoszorb, phospure and many others.

Anyone's thoughts?

unclemuskie · 03/03/2006, 03:30 PM

Rowaphos from custom aquatics.I use it with my small reactor from two little fishies and has eliminated hair algae from my tank.

tikireefer · 03/03/2006, 03:49 PM

I am interested in using a phosphate reactor, but I am not sure I understand how it works. If I buy the Phos ban Reactor 150, I will also need to buy a power head? What type of power head do I buy and how large (gph)? I can't find a place online that explains this. Ok...and then how does the "phosphate media" work? Just fill up the canister? On average, how long before the media should be replaced? Anyone willing to explain all the details of this process for a dummy like me?? :-) Thanks!

aaronpentz · 03/03/2006, 05:14 PM

I plumbed mine into the return to the tank as It only needs 70-100 GPH they include a vlave which allows you to adjust the flowrate. You want the material you use to vibrate. Not tumble because this will break it down and be released into the tank. You only fill the reactor about halfway and you dhould get a PO test kit to check when the material needs to be replaced. Seachem makes a product (Sea Gel) the has Carbon and PhosGuard mixed together. A lot of people use this.

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...em.asp?CartId=

Don Berry · 03/03/2006, 11:16 PM

From what I've read RowaPhos seems to be by far the best product.

susieQ · 03/06/2006, 09:59 PM

unclemuskie: How bad was your HA and how long did it take to die off? Does it just disintegrate or fall off in clumps and get stuck in PHs?

Thanks!
Susie

ostrow · 03/06/2006, 10:34 PM

Turned all my corals white, didn't like it. I run purigen in the reactor now...

tryingsalt · 03/07/2006, 07:40 AM

Ostrow..Do you reuse your purigen after bleaching or buy more new stuff?

unclemuskie · 03/07/2006, 03:42 PM

the hair algae just went away.I talked to the manufaturer at Rowa.USA and he said a 250 ml bag should last about 3-4 months initially then that same amount should last about a year.for my setup.I love it and the results were great for me.just keep checking your output water to see if yours is exhausted.

Highlander · 03/07/2006, 03:45 PM

Didn't someone publish some data a while back showing that Phosban was just as effective as RowaPhos, at a much lower price?

Rod Buehler · 03/07/2006, 04:38 PM

There are a few out there now. I beleive that rowaphos and the much much cheaper Pura Phoslock are both (wet) ferric hydroxide, while the Phosban and the much cheaper oceans blend are (dry) ferric oxide. I am not 100% certain on this so take it for what its worth...

G13 · 03/07/2006, 06:36 PM

I recommend phosguard. Not a small particle media so it won't leak into your system and in 2 days my tank went from 1.0 phosphates to 0. Cleaned out the rocks and haven't seen hair algae since.

ostrow · 03/07/2006, 08:17 PM

The Phosban stuff and the Oceans Blend are dry. I had problems with the reactor (old model) leaching the stuff into the sump, and I had problems with corals turning white though.

I trash the purigen after 3 months and just buy new. But when this batch runs out I'm not sure what I'll do. I might ditch the reactor thing altogether. Or maybe not. Can't decide. But I don't plan on the ferric oxide stuff anymore. Other ways to deal with phosphates IMHO.

Rod Buehler · 03/08/2006, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G13
I recommend phosguard. Not a small particle media so it won't leak into your system and in 2 days my tank went from 1.0 phosphates to 0. Cleaned out the rocks and haven't seen hair algae since.

Phosguard is aluminum based and the aluminum WILL leach into the water. That is why the ferric oxide/hydroxide(s) have entered the hobby.

tryingsalt · 03/08/2006, 07:07 AM

Has anyone tryed the Seagel stuff?

03/03/2006, 01:10 PM	#1
SAJJ22 Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Arlington Hts, Illinois Posts: 47	Phosphate media Has anyone had better results with one product versus another when using a phosphate remover? I now am using a Phos ban Reactor 150 and would like to use the mostefficient product. Phosban, Phosguard, Phoszorb, phospure and many others. Anyone's thoughts? __________________ A Little Piece of Heaven! Current Tank Info: 90 Gallon reef tank

03/03/2006, 05:14 PM	#4
aaronpentz Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pingree Grove, IL Posts: 952	I plumbed mine into the return to the tank as It only needs 70-100 GPH they include a vlave which allows you to adjust the flowrate. You want the material you use to vibrate. Not tumble because this will break it down and be released into the tank. You only fill the reactor about halfway and you dhould get a PO test kit to check when the material needs to be replaced. Seachem makes a product (Sea Gel) the has Carbon and PhosGuard mixed together. A lot of people use this. http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...em.asp?CartId= __________________ "Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling it brings" Current Tank Info: 67 Long

03/06/2006, 09:59 PM	#6
susieQ Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 185	unclemuskie: How bad was your HA and how long did it take to die off? Does it just disintegrate or fall off in clumps and get stuck in PHs? Thanks! Susie __________________ Survival of the fittest, yes, but not in Susie's tank!

03/06/2006, 10:34 PM	#7
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	Turned all my corals white, didn't like it. I run purigen in the reactor now... __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

03/07/2006, 07:40 AM	#8
tryingsalt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cville West ,IL. USA Posts: 200	Ostrow..Do you reuse your purigen after bleaching or buy more new stuff? __________________ Cary Cville West,IL. USA ____________________________________ 75gal Reef Current Tank Info: 75g reef ,30g FOWLR

03/03/2006, 03:30 PM	#2
unclemuskie Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norridge.Il Posts: 454	Rowaphos from custom aquatics.I use it with my small reactor from two little fishies and has eliminated hair algae from my tank.

03/03/2006, 03:49 PM	#3
tikireefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sandwich, IL Posts: 465	I am interested in using a phosphate reactor, but I am not sure I understand how it works. If I buy the Phos ban Reactor 150, I will also need to buy a power head? What type of power head do I buy and how large (gph)? I can't find a place online that explains this. Ok...and then how does the "phosphate media" work? Just fill up the canister? On average, how long before the media should be replaced? Anyone willing to explain all the details of this process for a dummy like me?? :-) Thanks!

03/03/2006, 11:16 PM	#5
Don Berry Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 950	From what I've read RowaPhos seems to be by far the best product.

03/07/2006, 03:42 PM	#9
unclemuskie Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norridge.Il Posts: 454	the hair algae just went away.I talked to the manufaturer at Rowa.USA and he said a 250 ml bag should last about 3-4 months initially then that same amount should last about a year.for my setup.I love it and the results were great for me.just keep checking your output water to see if yours is exhausted.

03/07/2006, 03:45 PM	#10
Highlander outa salt 8-( Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,031	Didn't someone publish some data a while back showing that Phosban was just as effective as RowaPhos, at a much lower price?

03/07/2006, 04:38 PM	#11
Rod Buehler Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: DeKalb, IL Posts: 3,070	There are a few out there now. I beleive that rowaphos and the much much cheaper Pura Phoslock are both (wet) ferric hydroxide, while the Phosban and the much cheaper oceans blend are (dry) ferric oxide. I am not 100% certain on this so take it for what its worth... __________________ Rod Buehler Biodiversity matters because all life on earth has a right to exist. Current Tank Info: many

03/07/2006, 06:36 PM	#12
G13 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 810	I recommend phosguard. Not a small particle media so it won't leak into your system and in 2 days my tank went from 1.0 phosphates to 0. Cleaned out the rocks and haven't seen hair algae since.

03/07/2006, 08:17 PM	#13
ostrow It's Dr. Goodluck Himself Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oak Park, IL Posts: 11,654	The Phosban stuff and the Oceans Blend are dry. I had problems with the reactor (old model) leaching the stuff into the sump, and I had problems with corals turning white though. I trash the purigen after 3 months and just buy new. But when this batch runs out I'm not sure what I'll do. I might ditch the reactor thing altogether. Or maybe not. Can't decide. But I don't plan on the ferric oxide stuff anymore. Other ways to deal with phosphates IMHO. __________________ It's the return of Dr. Goodluck Himself. fml! Current Tank Info: 156G "brick", 150 sump and 75 fuge replaces Fire, Destruction, Sad :(

03/08/2006, 07:07 AM	#15
tryingsalt Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cville West ,IL. USA Posts: 200	Has anyone tryed the Seagel stuff? __________________ Cary Cville West,IL. USA ____________________________________ 75gal Reef Current Tank Info: 75g reef ,30g FOWLR