My new anenome just split??

syilk1 · 03/07/2006, 04:55 PM

I recently added a a new bubble tip ananome in my 75 gallon 2 weeks ago and came down to feed fish this am and now there are two in my aquarium?? Do these guys split that fast?

Amphiprion · 03/07/2006, 04:58 PM

It is quite common for this species to split in captivity. They often do it in response to some stressor (hence it doing it as a recent addition). Also, good feeding and light can provide the surplus energy reserves that aid in making it faster.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 05:10 PM

Two weeks must be the magic time for these anemones!

My BTA also split exactly two weeks after I got it. I have been feeding them almost every day with either flake food or frozen food and they show great growth, color, and shape.

Although I wouldnt feed them for acouple days after they split, because when I feed mine the day after they split, when they tryed to put the food in their mouth, they split back open from where they healed from dividing in two. I dont know if that makes sense or not but it wasnt pretty.

I got mine from saltwaterfish.com.

Good luck with your new anemone, I mean anemoneS.

-Kyle

syilk1 · 03/07/2006, 05:21 PM

I also got mine form saltwaterfish. All there stuff seems very healthy all though my sea cucumber died and I cant get to his rotting corpse, Great, here comes a spike

FloatingFish · 03/07/2006, 05:35 PM

When mine splits it likes to split into 3. It has done this twice in about 2 1/2 years.

reefgeek84 · 03/07/2006, 05:47 PM

They do not split because of stress, it is a way or reproduction. This is a good thing, you can double check your levels but they will be fine. If an ananome is stressed it will close up and eventually die if it is bad enough.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 05:49 PM

I want to get a cuke to clean my sand bed but dont know what type to get or if there are worth the risk. What do you reccomend syilk1?

I want mine to split some more... how often do you feed yours FloatingFish?

-Kyle

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 05:55 PM

It is true that an anemone splitting can be a sign of stress, or it can be a good sign.

It is just hard to tell if the anemone is splitting out of stress "oh no! I am not going to make it! Better split in two and maybe one of us will make it" or if it is splitting becausse it feels "I like this place, let me spread myself sll over this place!"

-Kyle

FloatingFish · 03/07/2006, 05:59 PM

Once maybe twice a week.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 06:04 PM

What do you feed it? I feed mine mysis, brine, krill, plankton, and other frozen food, as well as omega one and ocean nutrition flake food. Yes they eat flake food and they love it!! I fedd flake to them every so often becaspuse i knwo it is nutritionally complete.

You say yours splits into 3? How does this work? Mine splits into two, right across the mouth.

-Kyle

reefgeek84 · 03/07/2006, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoungReefer06
It is true that an anemone splitting can be a sign of stress, or it can be a good sign.

It is just hard to tell if the anemone is splitting out of stress "oh no! I am not going to make it! Better split in two and maybe one of us will make it" or if it is splitting becausse it feels "I like this place, let me spread myself sll over this place!"

-Kyle

I just said... it is a reproductive thing. How many corals to you know that "split" and then grow because of stress? They lose color, come of the skeleton, etc. but never split and then thrive.

FloatingFish · 03/07/2006, 06:14 PM

Krill, Brine, Mysis, Silversides, whatever i'm feeding the fish. The same way they split into 2 just smaller parts.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 06:22 PM

"They do not split because of stress" reefgeek84 03/07/2006 06:47 PM

I am not trying to be mean in any way at all, but they do often split because of stress, I can cite at least 4 sources for you about this if you want to read more about it.

FloatingFish- Do you have any shrimp in your tank with your anemones?

I ask this because if I try to feed mine something big like a silverside my cleaner shrimp start picking the hell out of the anemone before the anemone can close up around the food.

-Kyle

reefgeek84 · 03/07/2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoungReefer06
"They do not split because of stress" reefgeek84 03/07/2006 06:47 PM

I am not trying to be mean in any way at all, but they do often split because of stress, I can cite at least 4 sources for you about this if you want to read more about it.

FloatingFish- Do you have any shrimp in your tank with your anemones?

I ask this because if I try to feed mine something big like a silverside my cleaner shrimp start picking the hell out of the anemone before the anemone can close up around the food.

-Kyle

Cite them.

FloatingFish · 03/07/2006, 06:36 PM

Yes, I have a cleaner shrimp. The trick is to give him a chunk before you feed your anemone. If your feeding him something large you should cut them into small pieces about 1/4 inch.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 06:43 PM

1.)The Coral Reef- White Star Guides- Underwater World- Angelo Mojetta

2.)Marine Biology (College Textbook) Fourth Edition Peter Castro and Michael E. Huber

These for two are for all anemones

3.)The Reef Tank Owners Manual- A Practical Guid to Establishing and Maintaining a Coral Reef Aquarium-John H. Tullock (3rd. Edition Revised and Updated.

4.) Either the Concientious Marine Aquarium or Reef Secrets, I forget what one it was in that i was reading up on it.

These last two sources talk specifically about Bubble Tip Anemones.

Sorry if my sources are not in MLA Format, LOL, I do that enough in English class.

-Kyle

reefgeek84 · 03/07/2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoungReefer06
1.)The Coral Reef- White Star Guides- Underwater World- Angelo Mojetta

2.)Marine Biology (College Textbook) Fourth Edition Peter Castro and Michael E. Huber

These for two are for all anemones

3.)The Reef Tank Owners Manual- A Practical Guid to Establishing and Maintaining a Coral Reef Aquarium-John H. Tullock (3rd. Edition Revised and Updated.

4.) Either the Concientious Marine Aquarium or Reef Secrets, I forget what one it was in that i was reading up on it.

These last two sources talk specifically about Bubble Tip Anemones.

Sorry if my sources are not in MLA Format, LOL, I do that enough in English class.

-Kyle

MLA, thats funny. I will go home and check my books....Ill get back to you tomorrow.

tag · 03/07/2006, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reefgeek84
I just said... it is a reproductive thing. How many corals to you know that "split" and then grow because of stress? They lose color, come of the skeleton, etc. but never split and then thrive.

anenome WILL split due to stress. it's a survival mechanism. if you have a BTA, feed it well for 2/3 weeks and do a 90% water change. you'll get a split soon after. it's a survival mechanism.

eric borneman cites in his book that many coral do "split" to survive stressful situations. say a rock falls on a favia, it will actually separate itself into two pieces to survive kind of like cutting a limb off that is trapped in something.

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 06:55 PM

Okay, i will try to find the exact page number for you if i have time.

And like I siad before I am not trying to be mean or anything I was just trying to help that member out.

I have seen som mean posts here on RC and I dont know why people get so ticked off.

Anyways what are your tank specs? Do you got/ are you thinking about getting a BTA?

-Kyle

YoungReefer06 · 03/07/2006, 06:57 PM

Thankyou Tag.

-Kyle

MDboyz · 03/07/2006, 07:15 PM

Congratualations.......... you are lucky.
My RBTA has been with me more than 2 years now. I keep feeding it every other day with the whole cocktail shrimp, but it's never splited. When it fully expands, its size is more than 12" now. Maybe it feel so comfortable in my tank...

Amphiprion · 03/07/2006, 09:08 PM

There is actually a great deal of evidence that stress induces schizogyny.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/in...ereprofaqs.htm
and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btareprofaqs.htm show a good deal of evidence about this.

It is still a form of reproduction, however, "splitting" in response to stress is instinctual and is done to increase the likelihood that one individual will survive.

syilk1 · 03/08/2006, 08:13 AM

WOW lots of good responses. I have only fed mine 3x since I got him. Just some frozen cubed food from petco. I had just got done nuking my tank with chemi-clean to get rid of cyano outbreak and had done a water change. SO there definitely were some stressors alon with a dead cucumber back in my rockwork I can not get at. It should be decomposed in next day or two. No ammonia spike to measure so far.
ANd yes feed the shrimp first or they will attck the poor thing with the food in its mouth.

03/07/2006, 04:55 PM	#1
syilk1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 391	My new anenome just split?? I recently added a a new bubble tip ananome in my 75 gallon 2 weeks ago and came down to feed fish this am and now there are two in my aquarium?? Do these guys split that fast?

03/07/2006, 04:58 PM	#2
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	It is quite common for this species to split in captivity. They often do it in response to some stressor (hence it doing it as a recent addition). Also, good feeding and light can provide the surplus energy reserves that aid in making it faster. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

03/07/2006, 05:35 PM	#5
FloatingFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Odell, ILL. Posts: 540	When mine splits it likes to split into 3. It has done this twice in about 2 1/2 years. __________________ . Current Tank Info: None

03/07/2006, 05:59 PM	#9
FloatingFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Odell, ILL. Posts: 540	Once maybe twice a week. __________________ . Current Tank Info: None

03/07/2006, 06:14 PM	#12
FloatingFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Odell, ILL. Posts: 540	Krill, Brine, Mysis, Silversides, whatever i'm feeding the fish. The same way they split into 2 just smaller parts. __________________ . Current Tank Info: None

03/07/2006, 05:10 PM	#3
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	Two weeks must be the magic time for these anemones! My BTA also split exactly two weeks after I got it. I have been feeding them almost every day with either flake food or frozen food and they show great growth, color, and shape. Although I wouldnt feed them for acouple days after they split, because when I feed mine the day after they split, when they tryed to put the food in their mouth, they split back open from where they healed from dividing in two. I dont know if that makes sense or not but it wasnt pretty. I got mine from saltwaterfish.com. Good luck with your new anemone, I mean anemoneS. -Kyle

03/07/2006, 05:21 PM	#4
syilk1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 391	I also got mine form saltwaterfish. All there stuff seems very healthy all though my sea cucumber died and I cant get to his rotting corpse, Great, here comes a spike

03/07/2006, 05:47 PM	#6
reefgeek84 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Portlan, OR Posts: 997	They do not split because of stress, it is a way or reproduction. This is a good thing, you can double check your levels but they will be fine. If an ananome is stressed it will close up and eventually die if it is bad enough.

03/07/2006, 05:49 PM	#7
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	I want to get a cuke to clean my sand bed but dont know what type to get or if there are worth the risk. What do you reccomend syilk1? I want mine to split some more... how often do you feed yours FloatingFish? -Kyle

03/07/2006, 05:55 PM	#8
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	It is true that an anemone splitting can be a sign of stress, or it can be a good sign. It is just hard to tell if the anemone is splitting out of stress "oh no! I am not going to make it! Better split in two and maybe one of us will make it" or if it is splitting becausse it feels "I like this place, let me spread myself sll over this place!" -Kyle

03/07/2006, 06:04 PM	#10
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	What do you feed it? I feed mine mysis, brine, krill, plankton, and other frozen food, as well as omega one and ocean nutrition flake food. Yes they eat flake food and they love it!! I fedd flake to them every so often becaspuse i knwo it is nutritionally complete. You say yours splits into 3? How does this work? Mine splits into two, right across the mouth. -Kyle

03/07/2006, 06:22 PM	#13
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	"They do not split because of stress" reefgeek84 03/07/2006 06:47 PM I am not trying to be mean in any way at all, but they do often split because of stress, I can cite at least 4 sources for you about this if you want to read more about it. FloatingFish- Do you have any shrimp in your tank with your anemones? I ask this because if I try to feed mine something big like a silverside my cleaner shrimp start picking the hell out of the anemone before the anemone can close up around the food. -Kyle

03/07/2006, 06:36 PM	#15
FloatingFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Odell, ILL. Posts: 540	Yes, I have a cleaner shrimp. The trick is to give him a chunk before you feed your anemone. If your feeding him something large you should cut them into small pieces about 1/4 inch. __________________ . Current Tank Info: None

03/07/2006, 06:43 PM	#16
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	1.)The Coral Reef- White Star Guides- Underwater World- Angelo Mojetta 2.)Marine Biology (College Textbook) Fourth Edition Peter Castro and Michael E. Huber These for two are for all anemones 3.)The Reef Tank Owners Manual- A Practical Guid to Establishing and Maintaining a Coral Reef Aquarium-John H. Tullock (3rd. Edition Revised and Updated. 4.) Either the Concientious Marine Aquarium or Reef Secrets, I forget what one it was in that i was reading up on it. These last two sources talk specifically about Bubble Tip Anemones. Sorry if my sources are not in MLA Format, LOL, I do that enough in English class. -Kyle

03/07/2006, 06:55 PM	#19
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	Okay, i will try to find the exact page number for you if i have time. And like I siad before I am not trying to be mean or anything I was just trying to help that member out. I have seen som mean posts here on RC and I dont know why people get so ticked off. Anyways what are your tank specs? Do you got/ are you thinking about getting a BTA? -Kyle

03/07/2006, 06:57 PM	#20
YoungReefer06 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eastern Shore Posts: 285	Thankyou Tag. -Kyle

03/07/2006, 07:15 PM	#21
MDboyz Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 662	Congratualations.......... you are lucky. My RBTA has been with me more than 2 years now. I keep feeding it every other day with the whole cocktail shrimp, but it's never splited. When it fully expands, its size is more than 12" now. Maybe it feel so comfortable in my tank...

03/07/2006, 09:08 PM	#22
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	There is actually a great deal of evidence that stress induces schizogyny. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/in...ereprofaqs.htm and http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btareprofaqs.htm show a good deal of evidence about this. It is still a form of reproduction, however, "splitting" in response to stress is instinctual and is done to increase the likelihood that one individual will survive. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

03/08/2006, 08:13 AM	#23
syilk1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 391	WOW lots of good responses. I have only fed mine 3x since I got him. Just some frozen cubed food from petco. I had just got done nuking my tank with chemi-clean to get rid of cyano outbreak and had done a water change. SO there definitely were some stressors alon with a dead cucumber back in my rockwork I can not get at. It should be decomposed in next day or two. No ammonia spike to measure so far. ANd yes feed the shrimp first or they will attck the poor thing with the food in its mouth.