ozone and skimmers...question!

infrared69 · 03/25/2006, 11:05 AM

my lfs said that once you hook ozone to your skimmer, you wont get anymore skimmate anymore? is this true? if so, where does the organic matter and protiens go?

ps, i am hooking a red sea 100 mg deluxe ozonizer to a asm g-3 skimmer on a 95g reef. and advice?

E-A-G-L-E-S · 03/25/2006, 11:18 AM

turnedmy skimmate black(from green/brown tea).....only been running for about 3-4 weeks, but my skimmate is about the same in quantity

infrared69 · 03/25/2006, 11:28 AM

that is what i thought, the LFS just started running his ozone about 6 weeks ago, i think he either has to adjust the skimmer setting to skim wetter or maybe his 1985 oceanic skimmer doesnt work well with ozone.

to my knowlede ozone makes a skimmer run better pulling out more/darker skimmate. can anyone else confirm this?

Billybeau1 · 03/25/2006, 11:33 AM

Yes my skimmate is darker than pre-ozone. You will have to adjust the skimmer as pumping ozone through the skimmer changes production. Takes some tweaking.

zapata41 · 03/25/2006, 01:08 PM

i run ozone on my big skimmer and get a different kinda of skimmate. not a much as no ozone but with the ozone the skimate is a little wetter, once tuned to skim wet, but is also gets a nasty black sludge on the bettom of the collection cup.

Tim

infrared69 · 03/25/2006, 02:08 PM

so are you happy running the ozone? do you feel it benifets your tank?

Billybeau1 · 03/25/2006, 02:46 PM

Am I happy running ozone ? Yes, I believe the tank looks better. That said, I am not happy with my aquazone deluxe 100. Next time I buy a unit it will be a Sanders or Aquamedic.

golfish · 03/25/2006, 04:48 PM

It did slow down my Geo recirc skimmer and making adjustments helped. The problem is that when the ozone generator shut off the skimmer would overflow. I use an old berlin skimmer to feed ozone.

Billybeau1 · 03/25/2006, 05:06 PM

From what I've been seeing, it would be better,if you have the room, to run the ozone through a seperate reactor, or skimmer.

If you have the room.

infrared69 · 03/25/2006, 05:19 PM

i do have a css-65 i can run the ozone thru and just use the asm g-3 as a skimmer, maybe that would be my best option

Ti · 04/16/2006, 06:41 PM

ozone made my skimmer better

infrared69 · 04/16/2006, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Am I happy running ozone ? Yes, I believe the tank looks better. That said, I am not happy with my aquazone deluxe 100. Next time I buy a unit it will be a Sanders or Aquamedic.

what dont you like about th aquazone? i have the same unit and i love it.

Billybeau1 · 04/17/2006, 08:40 AM

Well, I dont believe the ozone output on mine is as advertised. My tank rarely gets over 300 mv. It is producing some because I can smell it on top of the collection cup. My 100mg is cranked up to max. It may just be a defective unit. My water is crystal clear though. I quit worrying about it.

Roland Jacques · 04/17/2006, 09:38 AM

when you add ozone you have to adjust your skimmer for the defferance. i don't no if those old oceanic skimmers at your LFS are adjustable enough. i would not use one in a high flow skimmer (down darft- beckect..). a big needle wheel, air stone or venture skimmer would be best IMO. a large volume skimmer, something that would keep the ozone in the skimmer longer. the asm 3 would be ok IMO.

infrared69 · 04/17/2006, 03:02 PM

i have been running ozone thru the CSS 65 for about a week now and it is working very well. i am gettting minimal skimmate but the tank looks great and my ORP hold right around 375mv. i only inject 25mg of ozone and it doesnt even run all the time. i think i will continure to use the CSS 65 and do the recirec mod to my G3 and run it as a straigt skimmer.

03/25/2006, 11:05 AM	#1
infrared69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: wyoming, pa Posts: 587	ozone and skimmers...question! my lfs said that once you hook ozone to your skimmer, you wont get anymore skimmate anymore? is this true? if so, where does the organic matter and protiens go? ps, i am hooking a red sea 100 mg deluxe ozonizer to a asm g-3 skimmer on a 95g reef. and advice? __________________ The quickest way to end a war is to lose it. Current Tank Info: 95g, 2x250w MH Phoenix 14K D/E, SLS Reef Optix III, BlueWave VII HQI Ballast, 55g Sump, ASM G-3 Skimmer, Red Sea 100mg Ozonizer Deluxe, Nilsen Reactor, Typhoon III RO/DI

03/25/2006, 11:18 AM	#2
E-A-G-L-E-S Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 7,038	turnedmy skimmate black(from green/brown tea).....only been running for about 3-4 weeks, but my skimmate is about the same in quantity __________________ Smug Egotistical Contemptuous It's difficult to get a man to understand something that his salary requires him not to.

03/25/2006, 11:28 AM	#3
infrared69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: wyoming, pa Posts: 587	that is what i thought, the LFS just started running his ozone about 6 weeks ago, i think he either has to adjust the skimmer setting to skim wetter or maybe his 1985 oceanic skimmer doesnt work well with ozone. to my knowlede ozone makes a skimmer run better pulling out more/darker skimmate. can anyone else confirm this? __________________ The quickest way to end a war is to lose it. Current Tank Info: 95g, 2x250w MH Phoenix 14K D/E, SLS Reef Optix III, BlueWave VII HQI Ballast, 55g Sump, ASM G-3 Skimmer, Red Sea 100mg Ozonizer Deluxe, Nilsen Reactor, Typhoon III RO/DI

03/25/2006, 02:08 PM	#6
infrared69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: wyoming, pa Posts: 587	so are you happy running the ozone? do you feel it benifets your tank? __________________ The quickest way to end a war is to lose it. Current Tank Info: 95g, 2x250w MH Phoenix 14K D/E, SLS Reef Optix III, BlueWave VII HQI Ballast, 55g Sump, ASM G-3 Skimmer, Red Sea 100mg Ozonizer Deluxe, Nilsen Reactor, Typhoon III RO/DI

03/25/2006, 05:19 PM	#10
infrared69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: wyoming, pa Posts: 587	i do have a css-65 i can run the ozone thru and just use the asm g-3 as a skimmer, maybe that would be my best option __________________ The quickest way to end a war is to lose it. Current Tank Info: 95g, 2x250w MH Phoenix 14K D/E, SLS Reef Optix III, BlueWave VII HQI Ballast, 55g Sump, ASM G-3 Skimmer, Red Sea 100mg Ozonizer Deluxe, Nilsen Reactor, Typhoon III RO/DI

03/25/2006, 11:33 AM	#4
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	Yes my skimmate is darker than pre-ozone. You will have to adjust the skimmer as pumping ozone through the skimmer changes production. Takes some tweaking.

03/25/2006, 01:08 PM	#5
zapata41 Moved On Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Humboldt County, CA Posts: 2,024	i run ozone on my big skimmer and get a different kinda of skimmate. not a much as no ozone but with the ozone the skimate is a little wetter, once tuned to skim wet, but is also gets a nasty black sludge on the bettom of the collection cup. Tim

03/25/2006, 02:46 PM	#7
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	Am I happy running ozone ? Yes, I believe the tank looks better. That said, I am not happy with my aquazone deluxe 100. Next time I buy a unit it will be a Sanders or Aquamedic.

03/25/2006, 04:48 PM	#8
golfish Team RC Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Alta Loma, Ca Posts: 6,776	It did slow down my Geo recirc skimmer and making adjustments helped. The problem is that when the ozone generator shut off the skimmer would overflow. I use an old berlin skimmer to feed ozone.

03/25/2006, 05:06 PM	#9
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	From what I've been seeing, it would be better,if you have the room, to run the ozone through a seperate reactor, or skimmer. If you have the room.

04/16/2006, 06:41 PM	#11
Ti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 7,927	ozone made my skimmer better __________________ Hair algae is my Macro algae.

04/17/2006, 08:40 AM	#13
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	Well, I dont believe the ozone output on mine is as advertised. My tank rarely gets over 300 mv. It is producing some because I can smell it on top of the collection cup. My 100mg is cranked up to max. It may just be a defective unit. My water is crystal clear though. I quit worrying about it.

04/17/2006, 09:38 AM	#14
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	when you add ozone you have to adjust your skimmer for the defferance. i don't no if those old oceanic skimmers at your LFS are adjustable enough. i would not use one in a high flow skimmer (down darft- beckect..). a big needle wheel, air stone or venture skimmer would be best IMO. a large volume skimmer, something that would keep the ozone in the skimmer longer. the asm 3 would be ok IMO. __________________ Roland

04/17/2006, 03:02 PM	#15
infrared69 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: wyoming, pa Posts: 587	i have been running ozone thru the CSS 65 for about a week now and it is working very well. i am gettting minimal skimmate but the tank looks great and my ORP hold right around 375mv. i only inject 25mg of ozone and it doesnt even run all the time. i think i will continure to use the CSS 65 and do the recirec mod to my G3 and run it as a straigt skimmer. __________________ The quickest way to end a war is to lose it. Current Tank Info: 95g, 2x250w MH Phoenix 14K D/E, SLS Reef Optix III, BlueWave VII HQI Ballast, 55g Sump, ASM G-3 Skimmer, Red Sea 100mg Ozonizer Deluxe, Nilsen Reactor, Typhoon III RO/DI