Baby Bangaii hatching Video

Coraldynamics · 03/28/2006, 06:45 AM

Hi all!

This video is of Day 19 (from date of egg transfer to male) bangaii babies. You can see them in the tumbler as they have started to emerge from the egg sack. Also a few have already decided to swim out of the tumbler and into the holding net.

Timeline for these babies:
Egg transfer to male - March 8 2006 Day 0
Forced Spit of eggs - March 13 2006 Day 5
Date of Video - March 27 2006 Day 19

Baby Bangaii Video

Pardon the background music...Boston Fan here. Needed something to cover the noise of the shop.

Enjoy!

jacob30 · 03/28/2006, 07:57 AM

Cool video and nice tunes!

RGE · 03/28/2006, 11:35 AM

Nice video. Thanks for sharing it.

Coraldynamics · 03/28/2006, 11:47 AM

Just got a look into the hatching tumbler - 21 nice little baby bangers! I will update the video tonight or tomorrow.

mwp · 03/28/2006, 03:15 PM

Great Video! Interesting to see!

Matt

Brock Fluharty · 03/28/2006, 04:53 PM

I thought cardinals were mouth brooders? Did he spit them out or something?

Coraldynamics · 03/28/2006, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brock Fluharty
I thought cardinals were mouth brooders? Did he spit them out or something?

See timeline above

I had forced the spit on day 5.

I have updated the video with some shots from the 21 or so that hatched today. Also included a shot of the tumbler and some closeups.

Thanx !!!

tmays · 03/28/2006, 09:35 PM

Nice! Keep up the good work!

David M · 03/28/2006, 10:45 PM

Nice job, that was friggin' awesome. And yes, I am old enough to appreciate the "soundtrack"

Whaddaya think, could this spawn a FBVN ?? ( oh, that would be Fish Breeders Video Network)

tmays · 03/28/2006, 11:03 PM

Good idea!

tmays · 03/28/2006, 11:05 PM

Maybe they should start a fish breeding video forum.

FMarini · 03/29/2006, 01:38 PM

loved it..... Boston rocks. Man I grew up listening to them.
Oh right bangers.
Excellent job stephen. See i told ya the tumbler ideas work, best part is the male banggai only has to carry for a few days. This increases your production by 80%, since you only have to wait a few days after egg transfer
Awesome job

ricordiaking · 03/29/2006, 05:27 PM

Cool vid

Nagel · 03/30/2006, 01:50 AM

Man, I miss myy bangaiis. I lost my breeding pair when I moved their tanks to my new house (3 1/2 years ago). I've tried to get other pairs, unsuccessfully.. All the LFS's here only get wild caught, with those nasty internal parasites, and I've tried piperazine and praziquental to no avail. I need to find a LFS that gets captive breds in. I have a single bangaii that I got from the LFS that someone traded in, we call him gigantor (biggest bangaii I've ever seen). I've gotten 2 dozen from shipments (4 each time) and tried medications in a quarantine tank, but always lose them within 7-10 days.

Given enough time, I'll cough up the dough and get ORA's when I finally find them locally..

When I had my breeders, I always took pappa out around day 20-21, put him in a breeder net, and never had issues (caught him by turning the lights on late at night and I had a 1-2 minute window while he was stunned so I could catch him)

Nice vid BTW. Boston rocks..

David M · 03/30/2006, 07:36 AM

Is there still a persistent problem with wc bangaii's? I though it was better now. One lfs here has a nice group of fairly large fish that have been there a couple weeks now, they seem fine. Good price too, $12.95 I think. Been thinking about getting a few. I have a single male I raised when I was breeding them, he's about 4 years old I guess. Sort of like to put him up against "gigantor" and see who's bigger

Coraldynamics · 03/30/2006, 07:48 AM

IME there is still an issue with parasites and WC bangaii. Recent purchases similar to Nagel's turned out the same way. Many dead WC Bangaii. They would eat, sometimes stuffing themselves until they bulged but just never seemed to get healthy.

It is just sad to see it happen. We need more folks breeding these guys...

Nagel · 03/30/2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David M
Is there still a persistent problem with wc bangaii's?

Around here it is. They died 4 at a time, roughly 2 - 4 months between each purchase. Basically over the last 24 months.

Quote:

Sort of like to put him up against "gigantor" and see who's bigger

I'd love to. Now how do you judge size LOL. Photoshop works wonders

Seriously though, his body (not fins) is about the size of a half dollar, even a little larger probably.. Even my breeding pair wasn't his size. They were a little larger then a quarter (again, just body, not fins)

Mieko · 03/31/2006, 06:02 PM

Wow! Great video! Seeing the little balls of striped fish with an eyeball here and there is just amazing. Very exciting to see that the tumbler is working. Congrats!

damer · 03/31/2006, 10:10 PM

how big are they when they hatch?

Coraldynamics · 04/01/2006, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by damer
how big are they when they hatch?

Usually they are at or just under 1/4" Total Length.

David M · 04/01/2006, 10:35 AM

Is that a DIY jar or did you buy it? I was just looking through the AES catalog and they have a hatching jar set up that looks pretty nice for $27. I'm sure I could rig something but $27 is nothing in the grand scheme of breeding, I think I'll buy one.

David M · 04/01/2006, 10:39 AM

I just watched the movie again

I love it. That looks like the AES jar to me.

Coraldynamics · 04/01/2006, 10:42 AM

Hi David, yes that is the AES hatching jar. I bought the complete kit which has the pump, tubing, breeder basket, jar, and a 10 gallon "critter keeper" style tank.

Was a bit more than 27.00 but well worth it IMO...

Glad you guys are enjoying the video!!!

David M · 04/01/2006, 12:27 PM

Yea the kit is around $90. I certainly have pumps, tubing and a zillion tanks lying around and can make a collector any size, shape and mesh I need. Besides I'm a cheap bastard, think I'll just get the jar

km133688 · 04/01/2006, 12:39 PM

Boston Banggers... woohoo!

lost my Boston CD years ago. Think its time for a trip to Wal-Mart.

03/28/2006, 06:45 AM	#1
Coraldynamics Moved On Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,764	Baby Bangaii hatching Video Hi all! This video is of Day 19 (from date of egg transfer to male) bangaii babies. You can see them in the tumbler as they have started to emerge from the egg sack. Also a few have already decided to swim out of the tumbler and into the holding net. Timeline for these babies: Egg transfer to male - March 8 2006 Day 0 Forced Spit of eggs - March 13 2006 Day 5 Date of Video - March 27 2006 Day 19 Baby Bangaii Video Pardon the background music...Boston Fan here. Needed something to cover the noise of the shop. Enjoy!

03/28/2006, 07:57 AM	#2
jacob30 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 813	Cool video and nice tunes! __________________ "This is the last piece we will ever need and the last thing I will have to buy for a very long time" Famous last words Jacob! Current Tank Info: 350g AO glass tank SPS, LPS and soft corals, 3x400 watt MH 20K, Korallin Cal Rx, Deltec AP1003, 2x darts, Gen-X HP w/penducters, ACIII Pro, 80 g breeding system for Cards and Black Ocell., Deltec AP600

03/28/2006, 04:53 PM	#6
Brock Fluharty Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 908	I thought cardinals were mouth brooders? Did he spit them out or something? __________________ Sepiolids rule! Current Tank Info: 75g aggressive reef, 20g A. percula tank, 29g H. erectus seahorse tank

03/29/2006, 01:38 PM	#12
FMarini 10 & Over Club Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 5,260	loved it..... Boston rocks. Man I grew up listening to them. Oh right bangers. Excellent job stephen. See i told ya the tumbler ideas work, best part is the male banggai only has to carry for a few days. This increases your production by 80%, since you only have to wait a few days after egg transfer Awesome job __________________ Fish die belly-up and float to the surface: its their way of falling- Andre Gide

03/29/2006, 05:27 PM	#13
ricordiaking Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,048	Cool vid __________________ Clownfish lovers click on the little RED house.

03/28/2006, 11:35 AM	#3
RGE Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Posts: 27	Nice video. Thanks for sharing it.

03/28/2006, 11:47 AM	#4
Coraldynamics Moved On Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,764	Just got a look into the hatching tumbler - 21 nice little baby bangers! I will update the video tonight or tomorrow.

03/28/2006, 03:15 PM	#5
mwp Moved On Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,637	Great Video! Interesting to see! Matt

03/28/2006, 09:35 PM	#8
tmays Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 92	Nice! Keep up the good work!

03/28/2006, 10:45 PM	#9
David M Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego ( La Mesa) Posts: 2,831	Nice job, that was friggin' awesome. And yes, I am old enough to appreciate the "soundtrack" Whaddaya think, could this spawn a FBVN ?? ( oh, that would be Fish Breeders Video Network)

03/28/2006, 11:03 PM	#10
tmays Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 92	Good idea!

03/28/2006, 11:05 PM	#11
tmays Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 92	Maybe they should start a fish breeding video forum.

03/30/2006, 01:50 AM	#14
Nagel Old Salt... Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: West Milford, NJ Posts: 7,167	Man, I miss myy bangaiis. I lost my breeding pair when I moved their tanks to my new house (3 1/2 years ago). I've tried to get other pairs, unsuccessfully.. All the LFS's here only get wild caught, with those nasty internal parasites, and I've tried piperazine and praziquental to no avail. I need to find a LFS that gets captive breds in. I have a single bangaii that I got from the LFS that someone traded in, we call him gigantor (biggest bangaii I've ever seen). I've gotten 2 dozen from shipments (4 each time) and tried medications in a quarantine tank, but always lose them within 7-10 days. Given enough time, I'll cough up the dough and get ORA's when I finally find them locally.. When I had my breeders, I always took pappa out around day 20-21, put him in a breeder net, and never had issues (caught him by turning the lights on late at night and I had a 1-2 minute window while he was stunned so I could catch him) Nice vid BTW. Boston rocks.. __________________ "Who ARE you people!?!" "Got Prime Rib?" "Hold your children close." Jim Hobbs Current Tank Info: Tankless :( for now....

03/30/2006, 07:36 AM	#15
David M Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego ( La Mesa) Posts: 2,831	Is there still a persistent problem with wc bangaii's? I though it was better now. One lfs here has a nice group of fairly large fish that have been there a couple weeks now, they seem fine. Good price too, $12.95 I think. Been thinking about getting a few. I have a single male I raised when I was breeding them, he's about 4 years old I guess. Sort of like to put him up against "gigantor" and see who's bigger

03/30/2006, 07:48 AM	#16
Coraldynamics Moved On Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,764	IME there is still an issue with parasites and WC bangaii. Recent purchases similar to Nagel's turned out the same way. Many dead WC Bangaii. They would eat, sometimes stuffing themselves until they bulged but just never seemed to get healthy. It is just sad to see it happen. We need more folks breeding these guys...

03/31/2006, 06:02 PM	#18
Mieko Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 14	Wow! Great video! Seeing the little balls of striped fish with an eyeball here and there is just amazing. Very exciting to see that the tumbler is working. Congrats!

03/31/2006, 10:10 PM	#19
damer Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: geelong, australia Posts: 111	how big are they when they hatch?

04/01/2006, 10:35 AM	#21
David M Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego ( La Mesa) Posts: 2,831	Is that a DIY jar or did you buy it? I was just looking through the AES catalog and they have a hatching jar set up that looks pretty nice for $27. I'm sure I could rig something but $27 is nothing in the grand scheme of breeding, I think I'll buy one. __________________ These are my rotifers. Without my rotifers I am nothing. Without me my rotifers are nothing. Current Tank Info: 125 Caribbean theme folr, 800 gallon breeding system w/ mostly clownfish.

04/01/2006, 10:39 AM	#22
David M Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego ( La Mesa) Posts: 2,831	I just watched the movie again I love it. That looks like the AES jar to me. __________________ These are my rotifers. Without my rotifers I am nothing. Without me my rotifers are nothing. Current Tank Info: 125 Caribbean theme folr, 800 gallon breeding system w/ mostly clownfish.

04/01/2006, 10:42 AM	#23
Coraldynamics Moved On Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,764	Hi David, yes that is the AES hatching jar. I bought the complete kit which has the pump, tubing, breeder basket, jar, and a 10 gallon "critter keeper" style tank. Was a bit more than 27.00 but well worth it IMO... Glad you guys are enjoying the video!!!

04/01/2006, 12:27 PM	#24
David M Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego ( La Mesa) Posts: 2,831	Yea the kit is around $90. I certainly have pumps, tubing and a zillion tanks lying around and can make a collector any size, shape and mesh I need. Besides I'm a cheap bastard, think I'll just get the jar __________________ These are my rotifers. Without my rotifers I am nothing. Without me my rotifers are nothing. Current Tank Info: 125 Caribbean theme folr, 800 gallon breeding system w/ mostly clownfish.

04/01/2006, 12:39 PM	#25
km133688 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Norwich CT Posts: 1,559	Boston Banggers... woohoo! lost my Boston CD years ago. Think its time for a trip to Wal-Mart. __________________ Elderwoman says: "come in Chosen One and hear, our village is saved, for the holy G.E.C.K. has promised we will be delivered a Fallout3!" Current Tank Info: 28Gallon BioCube HQI w/ mated pair of tomatoe clowns and mated pair of banggai cardinalfish