Anybody Ever Hear of This?

daisymoonbeam · 04/15/2006, 09:09 PM

Today I got a small Yellow Tang, he was about the size of a silver dollar. He went in the tank and all was great. We went to dinner and came back to find him stuck to the intake of my Seio 600 powerhead and dead.

I know the powr heads could be a problem with Anemones but I never thought the little slots that the water comes in from on it would capture a fish and kill it.

Has anyone ever heard of this? What do I do about this when I replace him. I feel really bad, he looked so healthy and was only with me for a few hours.

wetWolger · 04/15/2006, 09:10 PM

never had a little tang like that....but there death rates are very high in general....my guess is he died and then got stuck to the powerhead

mr pink floyd · 04/15/2006, 09:10 PM

ive heard of it, but ive heard only storied of them living, with a few lines on their sides....

sorry for your loss

AquaReeferMan · 04/15/2006, 11:16 PM

Yeah its common. I know some people that had it happen to. A lot of customers, I then show them where the sponge filters are that connect to the power heads so it wont happen again.

XeniaMania · 04/15/2006, 11:25 PM

Do you have any other fish in the tank? Sometimes, they get worn out by being chased around or accidentally get too close to the pump, but bottomline is, that doesn't happen to healthy fish.

daisymoonbeam · 04/15/2006, 11:39 PM

I actually do have two very small clowns, one sleeper goby and a four lined wrasse. Nobody seemed to be paying any attention to him all afternoon, so I would wonder about his being chased.

He appeared healthy, he was hiding a little today, but they all do that at first so I wasn't concerned.

Do they make sponges are something for the Seio's that anyone knows of.

daisymoonbeam · 04/15/2006, 11:40 PM

AquaReeferMan - if it is common why don't you show them where the sponges are before it happens?

trmiv · 04/15/2006, 11:51 PM

My silver dollar sized yellow tang got stuck in my 820. Did you have the flow turned down a bit? When you do that, the Seio sucks from just two slots on the top, and creates a ton of suction in a little spot. Bad news for little guys. My tang actually survived, and is still going strong now six months later. If you have the flow turned down, I would just turn it all the way up, that way it sucks from all the way around the Seio, and the suction in one spot isn't as strong.

Connoisseurpoet · 04/15/2006, 11:58 PM

you should have 24 hrs garauntee on that fish and take it to lfs and replace it, and learned a lesson.

daisymoonbeam · 04/16/2006, 12:15 AM

My LFS does have a guarantee, but they would probably say the powerhead killed it, don't you think?

XeniaMania · 04/16/2006, 12:33 AM

That's what I'm thinking too...."warranty does not cover powerhead accidents"

AquaReeferMan · 04/16/2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by daisymoonbeam
AquaReeferMan - if it is common why don't you show them where the sponges are before it happens?

Well I wish I could. I only work there 2 days a week(cleaning tanks/doing fish orders). Its hard to catch everyone before it happens. Usually when people buy powerheads they come with the sponge, and a lot of people just throw them away untill a fish get sucked in.

daisymoonbeam · 04/16/2006, 08:44 PM

No sponge on mine as far as I know. Do you know if the Seios come with a sponge?

trmiv · 04/16/2006, 10:12 PM

Seios do NOT come with a sponge.

daisymoonbeam · 04/17/2006, 09:13 AM

So are there any solutions that anyone knows of?

RichConley · 04/17/2006, 09:24 AM

Like the above said, turn them back up to full flow. Thats the only solution.

I have the 820s, that are about the same size, and move more water. My cleaner shrimp sit on top of them and dont get sucked in.

I'd say the tang probably wastn in good shape to start with.

daisymoonbeam · 04/17/2006, 09:40 AM

As far as I know it is up to full flow. I didn't change the flow when I get it. How can I tell how the flow is set?

asfullax · 04/17/2006, 11:08 AM

if you look at the slots around the base, look to see if the entire hole is open, when its on reduced flow you will see only a partial opening.

When I got my 820's, they were set around 50%, and a turbo snail quickly got sucked in, after I opened it up all the way, my turbos now walk all over it without any problems.

Sorry for the loss

afishyonados · 04/17/2006, 11:22 AM

I want to say something callous and jaded about Connoisseur's blithe remark, but I am merely flabbergasted! WOW!

04/15/2006, 09:09 PM	#1
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	Anybody Ever Hear of This? Today I got a small Yellow Tang, he was about the size of a silver dollar. He went in the tank and all was great. We went to dinner and came back to find him stuck to the intake of my Seio 600 powerhead and dead. I know the powr heads could be a problem with Anemones but I never thought the little slots that the water comes in from on it would capture a fish and kill it. Has anyone ever heard of this? What do I do about this when I replace him. I feel really bad, he looked so healthy and was only with me for a few hours. __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/15/2006, 09:10 PM	#2
wetWolger Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,955	never had a little tang like that....but there death rates are very high in general....my guess is he died and then got stuck to the powerhead __________________ cheers, jent d-_-b Current Tank Info: 66gal = 32x24x20

04/15/2006, 11:16 PM	#4
AquaReeferMan Got Reef? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Under the Sea, Pa Posts: 4,593	Yeah its common. I know some people that had it happen to. A lot of customers, I then show them where the sponge filters are that connect to the power heads so it wont happen again. __________________ Couple SPS/Zoanthid tanks and a couple of FW planted tanks. Current Tank Info: 5 pieces of glass with some silicone and plastic frames holding them together

04/15/2006, 11:39 PM	#6
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	I actually do have two very small clowns, one sleeper goby and a four lined wrasse. Nobody seemed to be paying any attention to him all afternoon, so I would wonder about his being chased. He appeared healthy, he was hiding a little today, but they all do that at first so I wasn't concerned. Do they make sponges are something for the Seio's that anyone knows of. __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/15/2006, 11:40 PM	#7
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	AquaReeferMan - if it is common why don't you show them where the sponges are before it happens? __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/15/2006, 09:10 PM	#3
mr pink floyd Moved On Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: west hartford, CT Posts: 3,480	ive heard of it, but ive heard only storied of them living, with a few lines on their sides.... sorry for your loss

04/15/2006, 11:25 PM	#5
XeniaMania Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 1,627	Do you have any other fish in the tank? Sometimes, they get worn out by being chased around or accidentally get too close to the pump, but bottomline is, that doesn't happen to healthy fish.

04/15/2006, 11:51 PM	#8
trmiv Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,082	My silver dollar sized yellow tang got stuck in my 820. Did you have the flow turned down a bit? When you do that, the Seio sucks from just two slots on the top, and creates a ton of suction in a little spot. Bad news for little guys. My tang actually survived, and is still going strong now six months later. If you have the flow turned down, I would just turn it all the way up, that way it sucks from all the way around the Seio, and the suction in one spot isn't as strong. __________________ Current tank: Red Sea Reefer 350 Deluxe, Avast Marine Pegleg 180 skimmer, Gyre 150, Eheim 1262 return

04/15/2006, 11:58 PM	#9
Connoisseurpoet Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 32	you should have 24 hrs garauntee on that fish and take it to lfs and replace it, and learned a lesson.

04/16/2006, 12:15 AM	#10
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	My LFS does have a guarantee, but they would probably say the powerhead killed it, don't you think? __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/16/2006, 12:33 AM	#11
XeniaMania Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 1,627	That's what I'm thinking too...."warranty does not cover powerhead accidents"

04/16/2006, 08:44 PM	#13
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	No sponge on mine as far as I know. Do you know if the Seios come with a sponge? __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/16/2006, 10:12 PM	#14
trmiv Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,082	Seios do NOT come with a sponge. __________________ Current tank: Red Sea Reefer 350 Deluxe, Avast Marine Pegleg 180 skimmer, Gyre 150, Eheim 1262 return

04/17/2006, 09:13 AM	#15
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	So are there any solutions that anyone knows of? __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/17/2006, 09:24 AM	#16
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	Like the above said, turn them back up to full flow. Thats the only solution. I have the 820s, that are about the same size, and move more water. My cleaner shrimp sit on top of them and dont get sucked in. I'd say the tang probably wastn in good shape to start with. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

04/17/2006, 09:40 AM	#17
daisymoonbeam Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 49	As far as I know it is up to full flow. I didn't change the flow when I get it. How can I tell how the flow is set? __________________ Daisy I just want all my "wetpets" to be happy, healthy and well-adjusted Current Tank Info: 46 Gallon Bowfront-one lonely Royal Gramma so far

04/17/2006, 11:08 AM	#18
asfullax Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: albuquerque, NM Posts: 415	if you look at the slots around the base, look to see if the entire hole is open, when its on reduced flow you will see only a partial opening. When I got my 820's, they were set around 50%, and a turbo snail quickly got sucked in, after I opened it up all the way, my turbos now walk all over it without any problems. Sorry for the loss __________________ 129 Reef, Custom Cree LED Lighting, 2x54w T5HO, Bubble Magus BM-Curve 7, 55Gal sump - fuge, Iwaki MD40RLXT, Vortech MP40, multiple Hydor's - born 5/1/16 Current Tank Info: 2.5yr old, 129 Mixed Reef

04/17/2006, 11:22 AM	#19
afishyonados Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sumter, SC Posts: 459	I want to say something callous and jaded about Connoisseur's blithe remark, but I am merely flabbergasted! WOW!