Can LR survive Hyposalinity?

tkeracer619 · 04/24/2006, 04:02 PM

I have a yellow tang in a qt tank. He is showing what looks like black ich. I was going to do hypo on this fish. There is one rock in the tank to help with filtration. Can the benificial bacteria in the LR survive hyposalinity?

tkeracer619 · 04/24/2006, 04:48 PM

I found that the benificial bacteria will but the inverts and creatures inside wont.

It looks like he also has a few white spots, does anyone know if you can mix hypo with formalin dips.

leebca · 04/24/2006, 05:56 PM

Let's get some things clear:
1) Hypo is not a treatment for Black Ich:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr.../blackich.html

2) Live rock through a hypo treatment will kill the pods, inverts, worms, and other good small animals and lifeforms that have come to your aquarium on the live rock. If you treat the live rock with hyposalinity, you will, in effect, turn the live rock into base rock. Is it worth losing the valve of that live rock and all those lives?

3) The beneficial bacteria may well live and usually do, through a hypo treatment. But sometimes they go into stasis, or hibernation until they can adjust to the new salinity. So you'll need to anticipate the need for frequent water changes.

4) If they have Marine Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) then a hyposalinity is one of the right treatments for that. As far as I know you can do formalin treatments to fish in a hyposalinity.

Be sure of your diagnosis to make sure you are giving the right treatment(s).

tkeracer619 · 04/24/2006, 06:57 PM

Yeah it has both ich's. Was clean when i brought him home.

I took the live rock out and started lowering the sg.

I have been doing formalin dips and water changes daily.

Just wanted to add hypo to the list to help with the standard ich.

This guy was one of those skinny malnurished tangs found in a bad store. He was desperatly trying to eat. Nothing to eat so I took him home for 15 bucks. Eats anything i drop into the tank and has def gained some weight in the 3 days I have had him.

Favorite spot ..... by the nori clip.

leebca · 04/25/2006, 04:28 AM

You're very fortunate that it is eating. Please follow the recommendations in this post for a recovering fish (additional supplements and additives to the foods):

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=785228

Good luck with your fish!

04/24/2006, 04:02 PM	#1
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Can LR survive Hyposalinity? I have a yellow tang in a qt tank. He is showing what looks like black ich. I was going to do hypo on this fish. There is one rock in the tank to help with filtration. Can the benificial bacteria in the LR survive hyposalinity? __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

04/24/2006, 04:48 PM	#2
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	I found that the benificial bacteria will but the inverts and creatures inside wont. It looks like he also has a few white spots, does anyone know if you can mix hypo with formalin dips. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

04/24/2006, 06:57 PM	#4
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Yeah it has both ich's. Was clean when i brought him home. I took the live rock out and started lowering the sg. I have been doing formalin dips and water changes daily. Just wanted to add hypo to the list to help with the standard ich. This guy was one of those skinny malnurished tangs found in a bad store. He was desperatly trying to eat. Nothing to eat so I took him home for 15 bucks. Eats anything i drop into the tank and has def gained some weight in the 3 days I have had him. Favorite spot ..... by the nori clip. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

04/24/2006, 05:56 PM	#3
leebca Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: So. CA Posts: 2,902	Let's get some things clear: 1) Hypo is not a treatment for Black Ich: http://www.petsforum.com/personal/tr.../blackich.html 2) Live rock through a hypo treatment will kill the pods, inverts, worms, and other good small animals and lifeforms that have come to your aquarium on the live rock. If you treat the live rock with hyposalinity, you will, in effect, turn the live rock into base rock. Is it worth losing the valve of that live rock and all those lives? 3) The beneficial bacteria may well live and usually do, through a hypo treatment. But sometimes they go into stasis, or hibernation until they can adjust to the new salinity. So you'll need to anticipate the need for frequent water changes. 4) If they have Marine Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans) then a hyposalinity is one of the right treatments for that. As far as I know you can do formalin treatments to fish in a hyposalinity. Be sure of your diagnosis to make sure you are giving the right treatment(s).

04/25/2006, 04:28 AM	#5
leebca Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: So. CA Posts: 2,902	You're very fortunate that it is eating. Please follow the recommendations in this post for a recovering fish (additional supplements and additives to the foods): http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=785228 Good luck with your fish!