Quick I.D please.

mark97r6 · 05/01/2006, 03:33 PM

Hey guys,

Found this crawling across a cabbage coral. Took it out and put it in a glass beaker.

So the question is, do i put it back in the tank?

Its about 10mm long, kinda snail looking. Really nice but what is it?

Cheers guys.
Mark

SDguy · 05/01/2006, 03:37 PM

nudibranch. Anything of similar color/texture in your tank? Might be it's food source/origin into your tank.

rustybucket145 · 05/01/2006, 04:01 PM

I would say nudi. Like SD guy said is there anything in your tank that mimics the coloration of the nudi? If not, have you added any new corals/liverock recently?

If the nudi does mimic a coloration/formation of coral in your tank I would suggest closely inspecting the coral for other nudi's

SDguy · 05/01/2006, 09:29 PM

Actually, looking more closely at it....is it hard or soft to the touch? It could be one of those cowrie type snails, where the mantle actually covers the shell when fully expanded. Just another thought...

skylar · 05/01/2006, 10:49 PM

Is that a trunk sticking out from under a shell in the front? Does it have a shell? If it has a shell and a trunk I would say its a Conch of some sort. Some are good some are bad, like everythinmg else in this hobby. Since it was on the cabbage coral inspect that peace and the ones next to it very closely and see if you can locate a tissue that has been eaten away. Good luck, I'm sure someone will be able to id better...

Airman · 05/01/2006, 11:11 PM

IMO I would keep it until I saw signs of damage. It might a cool addition to your tank.

adtravels · 05/02/2006, 12:50 AM

cowrie
did you buy it with a dendrophyta
they eat this family very nice but predatory

melev · 05/02/2006, 03:36 AM

It is a beauty, and reminds me of a cowrie or nassarius based on the foot and tissue over what appears to be a shell, as well as the 'nose'. I've got no idea if it is safe or not, but I'd love to find out what you eventually determine.

MDKyleZ · 05/02/2006, 03:45 AM

Very intresting looks like a cowrie to me. I would look for more in the aquarium, till you find out.

Kyle

LeslieH · 05/02/2006, 08:51 AM

It's an allied cowry, an ovulid. They are host specific predators on soft corals, gorgonians, sea fans, etc. The mantle colors & textures are often an exact match for the polyps of the host. I'd need a better picture of the mantle before trying to put a name on it. If you want to do an image search on google try common generic names like Simnia, Pseudosimnia, Dentiovula, Phenacovolva.

mark97r6 · 05/03/2006, 05:52 PM

Thanks guys,
Definetly has a hard cowrie type shell.
the cabbage seems to be fine, though i do have a Dendro of a simular colour. Have not seen anymore of these. really stunning looking, but i cant leave it be untill its I.Ded, dont really think i would come across it again in my 360g reef tank. Its floating in the sump at the mo in a cup. if i let it go in the fuge, can any one see it making its way back up to the tank?

Its a shame to show this guy the porcelin helter skelter!

Thanks again, Leslie thanks for the search help. Will have a look
Mark

05/01/2006, 03:33 PM	#1
mark97r6 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sheffield, U.K Posts: 414	Quick I.D please. Hey guys, Found this crawling across a cabbage coral. Took it out and put it in a glass beaker. So the question is, do i put it back in the tank? Its about 10mm long, kinda snail looking. Really nice but what is it? Cheers guys. Mark

05/01/2006, 03:37 PM	#2
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	nudibranch. Anything of similar color/texture in your tank? Might be it's food source/origin into your tank. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

05/01/2006, 04:01 PM	#3
rustybucket145 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: valdosta, ga Posts: 3,707	I would say nudi. Like SD guy said is there anything in your tank that mimics the coloration of the nudi? If not, have you added any new corals/liverock recently? If the nudi does mimic a coloration/formation of coral in your tank I would suggest closely inspecting the coral for other nudi's __________________ 400gals of various tanks in the same system. Current Tank Info: 2 175w MH, 2 VH0 Actinics, Lots of Live Rock, tons of copepods, a Fat Mandarin Goby, Niger Trigger, Yellow Tang, Falco Hawkfish, Bi-Color Pseudo, numerous soft, SPS and LPS Corals

05/01/2006, 09:29 PM	#4
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Actually, looking more closely at it....is it hard or soft to the touch? It could be one of those cowrie type snails, where the mantle actually covers the shell when fully expanded. Just another thought... __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

05/01/2006, 10:49 PM	#5
skylar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 158	Is that a trunk sticking out from under a shell in the front? Does it have a shell? If it has a shell and a trunk I would say its a Conch of some sort. Some are good some are bad, like everythinmg else in this hobby. Since it was on the cabbage coral inspect that peace and the ones next to it very closely and see if you can locate a tissue that has been eaten away. Good luck, I'm sure someone will be able to id better... __________________ Addicted 14 years. Current tank:300g Reef w/ lot's of fish, SPS, LPS, and Clams. 4 x 400w MH 4 x 110 VHO actinic. MTC Ca reactor ER 12-1 & ASMG4Xrc.

05/01/2006, 11:11 PM	#6
Airman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 643	IMO I would keep it until I saw signs of damage. It might a cool addition to your tank. __________________ What is man, that thou art mindful of him?...:) Current Tank Info: 55 Gal, DSB, protein skimmer, UV light, Sump/Refugium

05/02/2006, 12:50 AM	#7
adtravels you cant buy blue fingers Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,542	cowrie did you buy it with a dendrophyta they eat this family very nice but predatory

05/02/2006, 03:36 AM	#8
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	It is a beauty, and reminds me of a cowrie or nassarius based on the foot and tissue over what appears to be a shell, as well as the 'nose'. I've got no idea if it is safe or not, but I'd love to find out what you eventually determine.

05/02/2006, 03:45 AM	#9
MDKyleZ Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sebring, Florida Posts: 568	Very intresting looks like a cowrie to me. I would look for more in the aquarium, till you find out. Kyle

05/02/2006, 08:51 AM	#10
LeslieH Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,178	It's an allied cowry, an ovulid. They are host specific predators on soft corals, gorgonians, sea fans, etc. The mantle colors & textures are often an exact match for the polyps of the host. I'd need a better picture of the mantle before trying to put a name on it. If you want to do an image search on google try common generic names like Simnia, Pseudosimnia, Dentiovula, Phenacovolva. __________________ Cheers, Leslie So many worms, so little time... Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County

05/03/2006, 05:52 PM	#11
mark97r6 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sheffield, U.K Posts: 414	Thanks guys, Definetly has a hard cowrie type shell. the cabbage seems to be fine, though i do have a Dendro of a simular colour. Have not seen anymore of these. really stunning looking, but i cant leave it be untill its I.Ded, dont really think i would come across it again in my 360g reef tank. Its floating in the sump at the mo in a cup. if i let it go in the fuge, can any one see it making its way back up to the tank? Its a shame to show this guy the porcelin helter skelter! Thanks again, Leslie thanks for the search help. Will have a look Mark