Pump suggestion???? Dart vs Ampmaster?

fishnugget · 05/06/2006, 04:56 AM

I am redoing my 210 gallon system. Have had a Dolphin Ampmaster 2100 running it. It has no heat transfer and is pretty silent. Does has salt kreep so I bought a new seal. Also bought a Sequence Dart due to all the Reef Central praise as the new primary or as a back up. However, pluming is different.

Any suggestions on which to use as main perminate pump. I am now confused.

I need quiet, efficient with no heat transfer. Is Dart way too much flow?

Help.

aurorafish · 05/06/2006, 05:19 AM

what do you mean perminate pump? If you mean return pump then use the ampmaster and use the dart on a closed loop.

fishnugget · 05/06/2006, 05:35 AM

I mean return pump. Why your decison?

I will only use one of them. I have Tunze for tank circulation

aurorafish · 05/06/2006, 05:42 AM

Personally I think either pump oversized as a return pump unless you are pumping against alot of head pressure. On a 200 display I would try for 800-1100 gph. On my tanks the return pumps are just slightly over what the skimmer can process. I have a dart on a closed loop currently and really like it. I had an older ampmaster that it replaced because it seemed to require changing the seals every 6-12 months which was a PITA. The dare has been running over a year and have never had to mess with it.

fishnugget · 05/06/2006, 05:47 AM

I feel the same way. However, I cant run a chiller so I need no heat transfer. Tank is next to TV so I need silence. I have been throttling ampmaster back for 3 years. I am thinking Dart is event stronger and I would have to throttle back even more. Just thought I would have less maintenence with Dart. But, could I screw it up by putting too much control on it? That is why I am confused which to use.

aurorafish · 05/06/2006, 05:55 AM

Sell them both and get an eheim, they are silent and the heat would be insignificant very low power draw, similiar to your tunze's. They also last forever.

fishnugget · 05/06/2006, 06:08 AM

Aren't they internal? Low flow?

fishnugget · 05/06/2006, 06:11 AM

Way too small for system. Need more Flow than that. With plumbing and dual returns, would produce 600gph. Would need 2 internally. have no room.

05/06/2006, 04:56 AM	#1
fishnugget Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 1,164	Pump suggestion???? Dart vs Ampmaster? I am redoing my 210 gallon system. Have had a Dolphin Ampmaster 2100 running it. It has no heat transfer and is pretty silent. Does has salt kreep so I bought a new seal. Also bought a Sequence Dart due to all the Reef Central praise as the new primary or as a back up. However, pluming is different. Any suggestions on which to use as main perminate pump. I am now confused. I need quiet, efficient with no heat transfer. Is Dart way too much flow? Help.

05/06/2006, 05:19 AM	#2
aurorafish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 331	what do you mean perminate pump? If you mean return pump then use the ampmaster and use the dart on a closed loop. __________________ There is only one planet, please act accordingly. Current Tank Info: A basement full

05/06/2006, 05:35 AM	#3
fishnugget Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 1,164	Yes I mean return pump. Why your decison? I will only use one of them. I have Tunze for tank circulation

05/06/2006, 05:42 AM	#4
aurorafish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 331	Personally I think either pump oversized as a return pump unless you are pumping against alot of head pressure. On a 200 display I would try for 800-1100 gph. On my tanks the return pumps are just slightly over what the skimmer can process. I have a dart on a closed loop currently and really like it. I had an older ampmaster that it replaced because it seemed to require changing the seals every 6-12 months which was a PITA. The dare has been running over a year and have never had to mess with it. __________________ There is only one planet, please act accordingly. Current Tank Info: A basement full

05/06/2006, 05:47 AM	#5
fishnugget Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 1,164	My concern I feel the same way. However, I cant run a chiller so I need no heat transfer. Tank is next to TV so I need silence. I have been throttling ampmaster back for 3 years. I am thinking Dart is event stronger and I would have to throttle back even more. Just thought I would have less maintenence with Dart. But, could I screw it up by putting too much control on it? That is why I am confused which to use.

05/06/2006, 05:55 AM	#6
aurorafish Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 331	Sell them both and get an eheim, they are silent and the heat would be insignificant very low power draw, similiar to your tunze's. They also last forever. __________________ There is only one planet, please act accordingly. Current Tank Info: A basement full

05/06/2006, 06:08 AM	#7
fishnugget Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 1,164	Which eheim Aren't they internal? Low flow?

05/06/2006, 06:11 AM	#8
fishnugget Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Parkland, Florida Posts: 1,164	Largest only 900 gph Way too small for system. Need more Flow than that. With plumbing and dual returns, would produce 600gph. Would need 2 internally. have no room.