What's the best thing to do if a new frag isn't extending it's polpys?

delta410 · 05/18/2006, 01:35 PM

I have a new frag that isn't extending it's polpys, it's all tucked in. What's the best bet to get it to extend? Given that my water isn't the best right now, because I just added some new stuff.

Water change, feeding, more flow etc...?

I've had it for about a week now, and it isn't doing anything.

kirstenk · 05/18/2006, 02:02 PM

Check to see if polyps are out at night. If your water isn't at its best I would do some water changes.

coralfarmer84 · 05/18/2006, 03:56 PM

I'd just give it time. polyp extension isn't always related to the corals health.

jiggy · 05/18/2006, 04:41 PM

ive heard of people leaving the lights off for a day, n then the next day when they put their lights on they get super polyp extension

mikekman · 05/18/2006, 05:24 PM

Don't worry if the polyps don't come out yet. Just gotta give it time. I'll bet that if you get a flashlight and check it at night, the polyps are out.

As long as the tissue is not receeding, etc nothing to worry about. The frag is probably just a little stressed and needs some time.

Charlie Davidson · 05/18/2006, 05:43 PM

Ditto mikeman, but are other sps doing OK in tank? Forgive me if I am wrong- but your questions lead me to think you already think/ know - not enough flow- and I think, maybe to little skimming.

delta410 · 05/18/2006, 07:16 PM

Flow is medium, skimming is good, water may be a bit dirty right now because I just added some new stuff, and there's some die off right now.

What if the tissue starts to receed? There's one small head that broke off and it's receeding from that area very slowly.

fishypets · 05/18/2006, 08:42 PM

Check for bugs/pest.

Harlequinreef · 05/18/2006, 09:20 PM

test your water

G-money · 05/19/2006, 09:02 AM

When you say there is "some die off", what do you mean?

In general, Acro polyp extension isn't necessarily a health issue. The best thing to do with new frags is to put them into a mature system in a place where you won't have to move them or disturb them for a long time.

delta410 · 05/19/2006, 01:04 PM

Some die off, I mean by some of my new zoo's died off from shipping.

spankey · 05/19/2006, 07:49 PM

Too much Flow? I just reduced my flow in my tank as I had to much. A buddy told me that he wasn't getting polyp extension during the day like he used to. He removed his Tunze's and sure enough gets so much extension they practicaly hang out of the coral during the day.

Mine come out more at night though. By cutting my direct flow, I am hoping to get more during the day. We'll see. Flow is a good thing but if its too much, it can be a bad thing...Just my opinion...

Spankey

delta410 · 05/19/2006, 11:40 PM

I've been checking at night to see if the polyp extend out, and I haven't seen one yet at night or day. checked for pest and nothing.

do new frags normally not extend their polyps day and night? How long until I should expect to see some polyp extension/death.

spankey · 05/20/2006, 04:22 AM

Like others have stated, unless you see tissue loss, it might be doing ok?

parothead22 · 05/20/2006, 10:11 AM

Sometimes time is the best remedy and to do nothing is the best thing. With that said however, at some point you may want to try something different. Possibly entice the polyps to come out by target feeding the coral. Also with corals, lighting and water movement is crucial. Try moving the coral to a different place in the tank to change the lighting intensity and water movement.
Another thing is that there may be chemical warfare going on and the coral may be closed up due to chemicals emitted by a neighboring coral. Unhappiness could also be the result of less than optimal placement in your tank.

mikekman · 05/20/2006, 10:32 AM

Like everyone has said, don't do anything and don't worry. I just got a acro frag from Rommel and I don't see any polyp extensions but it doesn't seem to be dying so I'm not worried.

You mentioned some stuff was dying off, well have your skimmer running and perhaps do a small water change.

Anytime I get new corals, I acclimate them into my tank and then an hour or two later I do a small water change.

bogg · 05/20/2006, 04:19 PM

Does the low flow mean better PE because that the coral is looking for food, rather than with high flow the food is being brought to the coral?.

05/18/2006, 01:35 PM	#1
delta410 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	What's the best thing to do if a new frag isn't extending it's polpys? I have a new frag that isn't extending it's polpys, it's all tucked in. What's the best bet to get it to extend? Given that my water isn't the best right now, because I just added some new stuff. Water change, feeding, more flow etc...? I've had it for about a week now, and it isn't doing anything.

05/18/2006, 02:02 PM	#2
kirstenk 23.5 Degrees Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,531	Check to see if polyps are out at night. If your water isn't at its best I would do some water changes. __________________ KIRSTEN REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE Reefer stabs Reefer in back over quarrel. Current Tank Info: 150g, 58g

05/18/2006, 05:43 PM	#6
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	Ditto mikeman, but are other sps doing OK in tank? Forgive me if I am wrong- but your questions lead me to think you already think/ know - not enough flow- and I think, maybe to little skimming. __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

05/19/2006, 09:02 AM	#10
G-money Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 2,250	When you say there is "some die off", what do you mean? In general, Acro polyp extension isn't necessarily a health issue. The best thing to do with new frags is to put them into a mature system in a place where you won't have to move them or disturb them for a long time. __________________ I'll shut up now... Current Tank Info: 120 reef, 75 plant

05/19/2006, 07:49 PM	#12
spankey Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eastern Pa Posts: 2,671	Too much Flow? I just reduced my flow in my tank as I had to much. A buddy told me that he wasn't getting polyp extension during the day like he used to. He removed his Tunze's and sure enough gets so much extension they practicaly hang out of the coral during the day. Mine come out more at night though. By cutting my direct flow, I am hoping to get more during the day. We'll see. Flow is a good thing but if its too much, it can be a bad thing...Just my opinion... Spankey __________________ 75RR. 6x54w T5. Vortech, Reef Octopus Recirc Skimmer, RKL Controller.. On a restocking Frenzy ;0

05/18/2006, 03:56 PM	#3
coralfarmer84 Moved On Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 1,267	I'd just give it time. polyp extension isn't always related to the corals health.

05/18/2006, 04:41 PM	#4
jiggy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ZOO JERSEY Posts: 774	ive heard of people leaving the lights off for a day, n then the next day when they put their lights on they get super polyp extension

05/18/2006, 05:24 PM	#5
mikekman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,064	Don't worry if the polyps don't come out yet. Just gotta give it time. I'll bet that if you get a flashlight and check it at night, the polyps are out. As long as the tissue is not receeding, etc nothing to worry about. The frag is probably just a little stressed and needs some time.

05/18/2006, 07:16 PM	#7
delta410 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	Flow is medium, skimming is good, water may be a bit dirty right now because I just added some new stuff, and there's some die off right now. What if the tissue starts to receed? There's one small head that broke off and it's receeding from that area very slowly.

05/18/2006, 08:42 PM	#8
fishypets Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 1,411	Check for bugs/pest.

05/18/2006, 09:20 PM	#9
Harlequinreef Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 205	test your water

05/19/2006, 01:04 PM	#11
delta410 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	Some die off, I mean by some of my new zoo's died off from shipping.

05/19/2006, 11:40 PM	#13
delta410 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	I've been checking at night to see if the polyp extend out, and I haven't seen one yet at night or day. checked for pest and nothing. do new frags normally not extend their polyps day and night? How long until I should expect to see some polyp extension/death.

05/20/2006, 04:22 AM	#14
spankey Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Eastern Pa Posts: 2,671	Like others have stated, unless you see tissue loss, it might be doing ok? __________________ 75RR. 6x54w T5. Vortech, Reef Octopus Recirc Skimmer, RKL Controller.. On a restocking Frenzy ;0

05/20/2006, 10:11 AM	#15
parothead22 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: connecticut Posts: 170	Sometimes time is the best remedy and to do nothing is the best thing. With that said however, at some point you may want to try something different. Possibly entice the polyps to come out by target feeding the coral. Also with corals, lighting and water movement is crucial. Try moving the coral to a different place in the tank to change the lighting intensity and water movement. Another thing is that there may be chemical warfare going on and the coral may be closed up due to chemicals emitted by a neighboring coral. Unhappiness could also be the result of less than optimal placement in your tank. __________________ 125g 250wattMH's 14000kHQI. 20gal.sump, dual megaflows AquaCEv180skim mag7,9.5 5gal. refug 35g 175w 10000kwactinic pc's, AquaC Remora skim75gal. Sealife skimAsst. LPS,SPS,Octocorals.inverts, reef fish Current Tank Info: 125gal and 35 gal. hex reef tanks, 75 gal fish only w/lr.

05/20/2006, 10:32 AM	#16
mikekman Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,064	Like everyone has said, don't do anything and don't worry. I just got a acro frag from Rommel and I don't see any polyp extensions but it doesn't seem to be dying so I'm not worried. You mentioned some stuff was dying off, well have your skimmer running and perhaps do a small water change. Anytime I get new corals, I acclimate them into my tank and then an hour or two later I do a small water change.

05/20/2006, 04:19 PM	#17
bogg Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,174	Does the low flow mean better PE because that the coral is looking for food, rather than with high flow the food is being brought to the coral?. __________________ And God said let the water teem with living creatures and he saw that it was good. Current Tank Info: Elos 120xl, 2 planet 2's, KZs, wavy sea/Tunze