Does the Oceanic 58g have a center brace?

amheck · 05/22/2006, 09:13 AM

Thinking about the 58g for my next tank and trying to decide between one 250MH (no brace) and 2x175W MH (has brace).

Thanks!
Aaron

nbemmer · 05/22/2006, 09:16 AM

Oceanic 58 and 70 do not have a center brace. The All-Glass 65 does.

manderx · 05/22/2006, 09:17 AM

no brace on the oceanic 58. fantastic tank. though consider the 2x175 still, i personally like light coming from as many directions as possible, fewer shadows. especially if you are doing sps.

amheck · 05/22/2006, 09:28 AM

Super, thanks guys. Yeah, I didn't know if a single 250w could cover the whole 36" tank. I'll look more into the 2x175W setups. Yes, this will be a SPS/LPS tank, but I'm pretty worried about heat issues with the dual 250's.

Aaron

Edit - oops, the setup I was looking at is 2x150. Hopefully that's ok.
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...=Oceanlight-T5

landragon · 05/22/2006, 09:34 AM

How deep is that tank, Aaron? What ballasts and bulbs are you considering? Any supp actinic?

amheck · 05/22/2006, 09:39 AM

Hey Jamie,

The Oceanic 58g is 36x18x21. I was hoping to find a MH/PC/t5 combo to get the duck to dawn effect. The Aquamedia linked above is one of the few 36" fixtures that has 2xMH and the supplimental lighting.

Aaron

dap42 · 05/22/2006, 09:39 AM

Here's mine just fyi:

amheck · 05/22/2006, 09:48 AM

Nice, dap. What lighting are you planning?

Nanook · 05/22/2006, 10:46 AM

I had an Oceanic 58g tank and really loved it...I was surprised when I looked at a new Oceanic 58g the other day....the glass looked to be an 1/8" thinner than it used to be.

dave

IU2468 · 05/23/2006, 09:26 AM

I have a 58 I have been running for 3 years love the tank originally went with 1X175. then i bought a 400w 20k over kill i have been told which might be true great growth and great color but should have gone with the 2 X 250. that would have been perfect. The 1 X 175 are nice but i found having to keep some of my sps to high which i guess is fine but i my buddy set up a 58 with 2 x 250 and was able to keep the corals down in the tank to give them more room to grow upwards. if i can i will get a pic post it for you. the heat isn't that bad he has fans on both hoods. Though if you were in a small room or one that doesn't get a lot of ventalation then you might have a heat problem.

amheck · 05/23/2006, 09:29 AM

Yeah, pls post a pic if you can. Always interested in seeing pics of this setup.

IU2468 · 05/23/2006, 10:02 AM

what are you planning on doing in the way of corals? That would help you a great deal i made that mistake and just started when i should have researched more i have spent a lot of cash on stuff i don't even need.

amheck · 05/23/2006, 10:07 AM

Well, I have a mised reef now. A 20g lit by a 4x24W Tek light. I'd like to move all of the zoas and soft corals into the 20g with the T5 lighting, and then have the new 58g be lit by MH and be primarily sps and lps, stuff like acro's monit's, chalices, acans, etc.

I guess I'm debating between the 2x150W setup and the 1x250W setup. It's going to be in a smaller room, so heat (and of course electricity) is a concern. That's the main thing that's kept me away from MH all this time. But I do think the sps especially look much better than under my T5's. Everything now seems to be a little brown, or purple with blue tips. I know a lot of the current corals I have can get some more color, even though they're kept up high now.

Aaron

landragon · 05/23/2006, 11:42 AM

Aaron, one 250 SE with a PFO optimal parrallel reflector will cover quite nicely, and put a decent hot spot over the middle.

amheck · 05/23/2006, 11:58 AM

Maybe something like this?

http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...gory_Code=PFOp

landragon · 05/23/2006, 12:09 PM

No actually like this
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...y_Code=Sockets
Oriented with the bulb fron to back, this will throw a lot of light to the edges of a 36" tank. Withthe one you linked to, I would imagine there will be less of that due to the position of the PC lamps.

dg806 · 05/23/2006, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dap42
Here's mine just fyi:

Where did you purchase the tank?

05/22/2006, 09:13 AM	#1
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Does the Oceanic 58g have a center brace? Thinking about the 58g for my next tank and trying to decide between one 250MH (no brace) and 2x175W MH (has brace). Thanks! Aaron

05/22/2006, 09:34 AM	#5
landragon Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 892	How deep is that tank, Aaron? What ballasts and bulbs are you considering? Any supp actinic? __________________ "Experience is the only tool we aren't born with." Unknown

05/22/2006, 09:39 AM	#7
dap42 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: earth.us.texas.austin Posts: 52	Here's mine just fyi: __________________ Livestock: 1 Sixline wrasse & two True Percula's in Quarantine Interests: Computers, Reefs, Snorkeling Current Tank Info: 58G + sump

05/22/2006, 10:46 AM	#9
Nanook Ancient Eskimo Legend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 41,852 Blog Entries: 11	I had an Oceanic 58g tank and really loved it...I was surprised when I looked at a new Oceanic 58g the other day....the glass looked to be an 1/8" thinner than it used to be. dave __________________ The wind blew, the chit flew, and then they came two by two. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Current Tank Info: 375g Tanganyikan Tank & 470g mixed reef

05/23/2006, 11:42 AM	#14
landragon Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 892	Aaron, one 250 SE with a PFO optimal parrallel reflector will cover quite nicely, and put a decent hot spot over the middle. __________________ "Experience is the only tool we aren't born with." Unknown

05/22/2006, 09:16 AM	#2
nbemmer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4	Oceanic 58 and 70 do not have a center brace. The All-Glass 65 does.

05/22/2006, 09:17 AM	#3
manderx Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Christiansburg, VA Posts: 4,893	no brace on the oceanic 58. fantastic tank. though consider the 2x175 still, i personally like light coming from as many directions as possible, fewer shadows. especially if you are doing sps.

05/22/2006, 09:28 AM	#4
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Super, thanks guys. Yeah, I didn't know if a single 250w could cover the whole 36" tank. I'll look more into the 2x175W setups. Yes, this will be a SPS/LPS tank, but I'm pretty worried about heat issues with the dual 250's. Aaron Edit - oops, the setup I was looking at is 2x150. Hopefully that's ok. http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...=Oceanlight-T5

05/22/2006, 09:48 AM	#8
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Nice, dap. What lighting are you planning?

05/23/2006, 09:26 AM	#10
IU2468 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere I don't want to Posts: 255	I have a 58 I have been running for 3 years love the tank originally went with 1X175. then i bought a 400w 20k over kill i have been told which might be true great growth and great color but should have gone with the 2 X 250. that would have been perfect. The 1 X 175 are nice but i found having to keep some of my sps to high which i guess is fine but i my buddy set up a 58 with 2 x 250 and was able to keep the corals down in the tank to give them more room to grow upwards. if i can i will get a pic post it for you. the heat isn't that bad he has fans on both hoods. Though if you were in a small room or one that doesn't get a lot of ventalation then you might have a heat problem.

05/23/2006, 09:29 AM	#11
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Yeah, pls post a pic if you can. Always interested in seeing pics of this setup.

05/23/2006, 10:02 AM	#12
IU2468 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere I don't want to Posts: 255	what are you planning on doing in the way of corals? That would help you a great deal i made that mistake and just started when i should have researched more i have spent a lot of cash on stuff i don't even need.

05/23/2006, 10:07 AM	#13
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Well, I have a mised reef now. A 20g lit by a 4x24W Tek light. I'd like to move all of the zoas and soft corals into the 20g with the T5 lighting, and then have the new 58g be lit by MH and be primarily sps and lps, stuff like acro's monit's, chalices, acans, etc. I guess I'm debating between the 2x150W setup and the 1x250W setup. It's going to be in a smaller room, so heat (and of course electricity) is a concern. That's the main thing that's kept me away from MH all this time. But I do think the sps especially look much better than under my T5's. Everything now seems to be a little brown, or purple with blue tips. I know a lot of the current corals I have can get some more color, even though they're kept up high now. Aaron

05/23/2006, 11:58 AM	#15
amheck Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,721	Maybe something like this? http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...gory_Code=PFOp

05/23/2006, 12:09 PM	#16
landragon Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 892	No actually like this http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...y_Code=Sockets Oriented with the bulb fron to back, this will throw a lot of light to the edges of a 36" tank. Withthe one you linked to, I would imagine there will be less of that due to the position of the PC lamps. __________________ "Experience is the only tool we aren't born with." Unknown