Are Seio Powerheads good?

snaza · 05/26/2006, 05:50 AM

good ?
ok?
crap?

want2reef · 05/26/2006, 07:48 AM

Mine has been going strong for 8 months now.

Toddrtrex · 05/26/2006, 08:58 AM

I've have had mine for about a year and a half. Shhhh, I been using them on a wavemaker this whole time. I clean them about every 3 months or so, working great.

beaker77 · 05/26/2006, 09:16 AM

I've had mine for about a year now. No problems at all. I do keep them pretty clean though. They are a little loud just when they start up.

want2reef · 05/26/2006, 09:34 AM

Don't tell anybody but, I havn't cleaned mine in 8 months.

DrBDC · 05/26/2006, 10:10 AM

I've had 2 620's for about 1 1/2 years and 2 1500's for a little over a year and they're great!

Ti · 05/26/2006, 10:19 AM

They are great powerheads

onehundred20 · 05/26/2006, 10:44 AM

I like them alot for the price, I use the 1500's and they are kinda large but good quality for the price, if I could afford 1k for powerheads I would buy tunze.

RichConley · 05/26/2006, 10:56 AM

theyrrreee great.

Ramble On Rose · 05/26/2006, 11:14 AM

Mine had startup problems after the first start. It has never started on its own even after days of soaking in pure vinegar. Can't wait for the new tunze to come out so I can junk it.

RichConley · 05/26/2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramble On Rose
Mine had startup problems after the first start. It has never started on its own even after days of soaking in pure vinegar. Can't wait for the new tunze to come out so I can junk it.

Honestly, everytime I see one of these posts, I want to hit someone.

If your tunze came in the mail and didnt work, would you keep it? NO, you'd call tunze and get them to replace.

Why the heck dont people think to do the same with these pumps.

AFAIC, the fact that this pump doesnt work is your own problem, and not a problem with SEIOS. If you get a defective unit, return it.

goda · 05/26/2006, 01:14 PM

i had 3 quit on me within a fewdays running in a tank with just saltwater ( no sand no nothing.. and one of them actualy broke my gfi. i cant reset it now)

taams customer service isnt as good as tunzes thats why people dont replace them

i may give the pumps another shot since maybe htey improved them since i got em ( over a year ago)
but till them i voted crap

RichConley · 05/26/2006, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goda
i had 3 quit on me within a fewdays running in a tank with just saltwater ( no sand no nothing.. and one of them actualy broke my gfi. i cant reset it now)

taams customer service isnt as good as tunzes thats why people dont replace them

i may give the pumps another shot since maybe htey improved them since i got em ( over a year ago)
but till them i voted crap

I had one that broke an impellar the first week. TAAM replaced it no questions asked. Their service was great for me.

It seems most people dont even try.

DrBDC · 05/26/2006, 01:45 PM

The only thing I've noticed regarding the startup issues is that the 620's and 820's sometimes need lifted to the water surface and resubmerged after power off. Same with dirty 1500's after about 6 months. If you loosen the big main impeller housing screw on cap, it seems to give it a little more room and lessens the non-start instances. They're not supposed to be turned on and off as stated by TAAM. This may not even happen any more since I've had mine all over 1 year.

trmiv · 05/26/2006, 01:48 PM

They seem vary. I bought two 820's at the same time last year. One is strong as an ox, and will keep going even with quite a bit of calcium build up, the other stops on a regular basis, even when clean. It's done it since a few weeks after I bought it..

I have to take it out of the water, and unscrew the end to get it started. Even then, when I stick it back in the water it will stop. I emailed TAAM about it, and they said I needed to clean it even though I told them it had just been completely cleaned. When I reiterated that I had cleaned it already, their reply was to purchase a new impeller for it.

I had the same experience with a couple of 620's too.

Toddrtrex · 05/26/2006, 01:53 PM

Interesting, I received my for Xmas (2004) and I've never had an issue with restarts (620s, 3 of them). Mine are all hooked up to a wavemaker, so they have to restart a lot. I will get a little noise once in a while, but they always have restarted.
Like I said above, I clean mine about every 3 months. My tank is mainly
SPS so I have high calcium levels.

The Grim Reefer · 05/26/2006, 03:32 PM

I had more problems with a 6060 Tunze than I ever did with a 1500 Seio. The Tunze would lock up if I had a power outtage and make a heck of racket. The Seio just caught snails.

snaza · 05/26/2006, 05:25 PM

Thanks everyone. i just keep reading thread about how **** they are and always have start up problems. but i guess they were just all the unlucky people. the poll is 80% good so far. thanks again.

kellymm7149 · 05/26/2006, 05:27 PM

I have 2 820s they have been in constant use for 2yrs + I run a very high alk and cal which will kill any pump, tunze included. the key word here is regular maintenance if they lock up the impeller on the ceramic shaft your screwed but the good news is a whole impeller assembly will only you cost you about 15 bucks

Obi-dad · 05/26/2006, 05:40 PM

I have an 1100 well over a year old, never cleaned it, stops and starts once a day on a timer for feeding - no problems. Nice unit especially considering the price. I did a mod though - removed the outer box and the collar, and cut away every other piece of plastic where the intake slots are - way more flow.

But. I made one of the 'maxi-streams' and that has awesome flow, even less expensive than a Seio, and smaller. Didn't ditch the Seio though, I use both.

Colorado · 05/26/2006, 06:04 PM

I have 2 820 in service for 1 1/2 years. I clean them every 3 to 4 months, and have had no problems.

want2reef · 05/26/2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Obi-dad
I have an 1100 well over a year old, never cleaned it, stops and starts once a day on a timer for feeding - no problems. Nice unit especially considering the price. I did a mod though - removed the outer box and the collar, and cut away every other piece of plastic where the intake slots are - way more flow.

But. I made one of the 'maxi-streams' and that has awesome flow, even less expensive than a Seio, and smaller. Didn't ditch the Seio though, I use both.

Do you have any pics of your modded Seio?

Thanks

fishbaiter · 05/26/2006, 10:19 PM

I have one but didn't get all the parts for it. Oh well.......

snaza · 05/27/2006, 05:56 PM

obi dad

PLEASE POST SOME PICS AND MORE INFO about your modded seio

Pico1 · 05/27/2006, 07:54 PM

i did a hanging mod and made up my own pre-filter mod because all my chromis were getting stuck to it
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View Poll Results: Are seio powerheads worth getting?
GOOD	58	70.73%
OK	14	17.07%
CRAP	10	12.20%
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05/26/2006, 05:50 AM	#1
snaza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,393	Are Seio Powerheads good? good ? ok? crap?

05/26/2006, 07:48 AM	#2
want2reef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tracy CA. Posts: 1,353	Mine has been going strong for 8 months now. __________________ Kevin The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Current Tank Info: CADlights Artison II 165g, 50g sump,Aquamaxx Q-3 Skimmer, AI Hydra 26 HD.

05/26/2006, 08:58 AM	#3
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	I've have had mine for about a year and a half. Shhhh, I been using them on a wavemaker this whole time. I clean them about every 3 months or so, working great. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

05/26/2006, 09:16 AM	#4
beaker77 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbia, IL Posts: 754	I've had mine for about a year now. No problems at all. I do keep them pretty clean though. They are a little loud just when they start up. __________________ Brian Current Tank Info: 93g Marineland Cube, 2X Ecotech MP40WesQD, Radion Gen 1, Reef Angel Controller, ART Sump, and NYOS 160 skimmer. 60g frag tank converted to shallow reef.

05/26/2006, 09:34 AM	#5
want2reef Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tracy CA. Posts: 1,353	Don't tell anybody but, I havn't cleaned mine in 8 months. __________________ Kevin The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Current Tank Info: CADlights Artison II 165g, 50g sump,Aquamaxx Q-3 Skimmer, AI Hydra 26 HD.

05/26/2006, 10:10 AM	#6
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	I've had 2 620's for about 1 1/2 years and 2 1500's for a little over a year and they're great! __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

05/26/2006, 10:19 AM	#7
Ti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 7,927	They are great powerheads __________________ Hair algae is my Macro algae.

05/26/2006, 10:44 AM	#8
onehundred20 Moved On Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 826	I like them alot for the price, I use the 1500's and they are kinda large but good quality for the price, if I could afford 1k for powerheads I would buy tunze.

05/26/2006, 10:56 AM	#9
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	theyrrreee great. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

05/26/2006, 11:14 AM	#10
Ramble On Rose Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago area Posts: 1,461	Mine had startup problems after the first start. It has never started on its own even after days of soaking in pure vinegar. Can't wait for the new tunze to come out so I can junk it.

05/26/2006, 01:14 PM	#12
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	i had 3 quit on me within a fewdays running in a tank with just saltwater ( no sand no nothing.. and one of them actualy broke my gfi. i cant reset it now) taams customer service isnt as good as tunzes thats why people dont replace them i may give the pumps another shot since maybe htey improved them since i got em ( over a year ago) but till them i voted crap

05/26/2006, 01:45 PM	#14
DrBDC Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ballwin, Missouri Posts: 10,358	The only thing I've noticed regarding the startup issues is that the 620's and 820's sometimes need lifted to the water surface and resubmerged after power off. Same with dirty 1500's after about 6 months. If you loosen the big main impeller housing screw on cap, it seems to give it a little more room and lessens the non-start instances. They're not supposed to be turned on and off as stated by TAAM. This may not even happen any more since I've had mine all over 1 year. __________________ Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, some just gargle, but most are rabid. Current Tank Info: 180g sps+75 softy/lps on one system tunze's, seio's, mjmods, aquacontroller w/add ons, 2X400 XM10000 and 3X160 vho actinic, 110g sump, 110 frag tank, Geo Beckett and other stuff

05/26/2006, 01:48 PM	#15
trmiv Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,082	They seem vary. I bought two 820's at the same time last year. One is strong as an ox, and will keep going even with quite a bit of calcium build up, the other stops on a regular basis, even when clean. It's done it since a few weeks after I bought it.. I have to take it out of the water, and unscrew the end to get it started. Even then, when I stick it back in the water it will stop. I emailed TAAM about it, and they said I needed to clean it even though I told them it had just been completely cleaned. When I reiterated that I had cleaned it already, their reply was to purchase a new impeller for it. I had the same experience with a couple of 620's too. __________________ Current tank: Red Sea Reefer 350 Deluxe, Avast Marine Pegleg 180 skimmer, Gyre 150, Eheim 1262 return

05/26/2006, 01:53 PM	#16
Toddrtrex Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 23,162	Interesting, I received my for Xmas (2004) and I've never had an issue with restarts (620s, 3 of them). Mine are all hooked up to a wavemaker, so they have to restart a lot. I will get a little noise once in a while, but they always have restarted. Like I said above, I clean mine about every 3 months. My tank is mainly SPS so I have high calcium levels. __________________ Click my name and then "visit toddrtrex's homepage" for tank pictures Current Tank Info: 210g reef and 65g reef

05/26/2006, 03:32 PM	#17
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	I had more problems with a 6060 Tunze than I ever did with a 1500 Seio. The Tunze would lock up if I had a power outtage and make a heck of racket. The Seio just caught snails. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

05/26/2006, 05:25 PM	#18
snaza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,393	Thanks everyone. i just keep reading thread about how **** they are and always have start up problems. but i guess they were just all the unlucky people. the poll is 80% good so far. thanks again. __________________ T5 SPS 60x33x20 Display Tank + 50x16x8 Frag Tank - 10x54W ATI Powermodule \| 2 x Tunze 6205 \| Tunze 6105 \| 2 x modded Tunze 6025 \| Polario 15ML (Frag Tank) \| ATB white cone Skimmer with Airstar 1500 \| WM Ecobak in TLF 550 Current Tank Info: 60x33x20 SPS T5 DT + 52x16x8 FT, 4x2x2, 30x10x8

05/26/2006, 05:27 PM	#19
kellymm7149 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lville ga Posts: 251	I have 2 820s they have been in constant use for 2yrs + I run a very high alk and cal which will kill any pump, tunze included. the key word here is regular maintenance if they lock up the impeller on the ceramic shaft your screwed but the good news is a whole impeller assembly will only you cost you about 15 bucks

05/26/2006, 05:40 PM	#20
Obi-dad Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CT Posts: 4,314	I have an 1100 well over a year old, never cleaned it, stops and starts once a day on a timer for feeding - no problems. Nice unit especially considering the price. I did a mod though - removed the outer box and the collar, and cut away every other piece of plastic where the intake slots are - way more flow. But. I made one of the 'maxi-streams' and that has awesome flow, even less expensive than a Seio, and smaller. Didn't ditch the Seio though, I use both. __________________ Greg, member of ARKSC and CTARS Visit our CTARS club website by clicking my RC name then 'visit homepage' - and please support your LFS Current Tank Info: 75g mostly stonies. DIY LEDs (24 CW XP-G, 48 RB XR-E) on dwizum CAT4101 drivers, DIY Hydra controller, SSB, Korallin Ca Reactor, Euroreef skimmer

05/26/2006, 06:04 PM	#21
Colorado Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 43	I have 2 820 in service for 1 1/2 years. I clean them every 3 to 4 months, and have had no problems.

05/26/2006, 10:19 PM	#23
fishbaiter Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 70	I have one but didn't get all the parts for it. Oh well.......

05/27/2006, 05:56 PM	#24
snaza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,393	obi dad PLEASE POST SOME PICS AND MORE INFO about your modded seio __________________ T5 SPS 60x33x20 Display Tank + 50x16x8 Frag Tank - 10x54W ATI Powermodule \| 2 x Tunze 6205 \| Tunze 6105 \| 2 x modded Tunze 6025 \| Polario 15ML (Frag Tank) \| ATB white cone Skimmer with Airstar 1500 \| WM Ecobak in TLF 550 Current Tank Info: 60x33x20 SPS T5 DT + 52x16x8 FT, 4x2x2, 30x10x8

05/27/2006, 07:54 PM	#25
Pico1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 1,627	i did a hanging mod and made up my own pre-filter mod because all my chromis were getting stuck to it [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ Jordan Current Tank Info: Red Sea Reefer 170