Will I be ok?

Brandon M · 06/16/2006, 01:01 AM

Within the past week I have had a bad ich outbreak and 2 of my fish died. My longnose butterfly and my flame angel have died and my clown, wrasse, and small blue tang are now in a QT being treated with hypo.

I would like to get another butterfly and flame angel because I didnt have them that long. My question is, after I sort out my ich situation and I add these two new fish will I have any aggression problems with the wrasse or tang?

bertoni · 06/16/2006, 01:52 AM

The blue tang will get too large for that tank. I'd find another fish. The longnose and the flame angel should be fine, although the flame might pick at some corals, if you are considering adding any at any time. For a FOWLR, they're a very nice animal, IMO.

Freed · 06/16/2006, 02:25 AM

Remember to QT ANYTHING WET that you intend to put in the main tank or you will likely end up with ich again just like before.

Teremei · 06/16/2006, 03:33 AM

No wonder they got bad ich. You had way too many fish and large sized ones too! For that small of a tank.

Secret to beating ich: Lots of open swimming room, healthy water params, peaceful neighbors. Pay attention to fish size and required tank size. And only add 1 fish every month until the tank is considered "full". Quarantining or lack thereof is not going to solve the posters problem. Cramped living space was the main problem. When a fish gets ich, it is only magnified if the living conditions are stressful.

Freed · 06/16/2006, 08:20 AM

Too bad we can't weed out the misinformed posters who know nothing about ich, or who at least refuse to learn.

theop · 06/16/2006, 09:03 AM

I'll also add the suggestion that you leave your display tank fallow (with no fish in it) for at least 6 weeks to clear it of ich. Inverts are ok.

JRistau81 · 06/16/2006, 09:12 AM

I quarantine all fish. I don't have the means to QT corals for the light not beinfg sufficient, but I have still yet to have an ich outbreak.

Brandon M · 06/16/2006, 12:58 PM

Let me make this clear, the blue tang is fairly small...around an inch and a half. By time its gets too large I plan on upgrading my tank.

Also, I do plan on QT'ing everything.

No one seemed to answer my question...will I have any aggression problems when adding my other fish?

Brandon M · 06/16/2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teremei
No wonder they got bad ich. You had way too many fish and large sized ones too! For that small of a tank.

Secret to beating ich: Lots of open swimming room, healthy water params, peaceful neighbors. Pay attention to fish size and required tank size. And only add 1 fish every month until the tank is considered "full". Quarantining or lack thereof is not going to solve the posters problem. Cramped living space was the main problem. When a fish gets ich, it is only magnified if the living conditions are stressful.

From my understanding, having 5 fish in a 72g isn't overstocking? I understand that once the tang gets bigger I will have to upgrade...and I plan on that.

My fish were a clown, a fairly wrasse, a longnose butterfly, a SMALL blue tang, and a flame angel.

bertoni · 06/16/2006, 02:36 PM

Aggression problems are hard to predict. I don't see anything that leads me to suspect you'll see aggression.

rubysmomma1 · 06/16/2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by 99Hawk
Let me make this clear, the blue tang is fairly small...around an inch and a half. By time its gets too large I plan on upgrading my tank.

Also, I do plan on QT'ing everything.

No one seemed to answer my question...will I have any aggression problems when adding my other fish?

There shouldn't be any aggression problems, but each fish has a personality of its own, just like cats, dogs, or any other animal.

On a side note, I thought my new kitten would get along great with my other cat since they weren't too different in age. Boy was I wrong!!! My cats hate eachother and the new kitten is best friends with the 80 lb. Doberman. Go figure!!

So I'd just worry about personalities striking.

Back on track, if one looks to be too agressive towards the others take him back and trade him in. You won't know until you have everyone in the tank together.

I wouldn't about the blue tang yet. When we got ours she was about the size of a quarter. She's in a 75 and a year later has grown to ~3 inches in length, nose to tail, and still has plenty of room to move about. We are planning an upgrade and she'll be dwarfed by the 210 gallon new home she should be in by Christmas!!

Good luck!

06/16/2006, 01:01 AM	#1
Brandon M Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,116	Will I be ok? Within the past week I have had a bad ich outbreak and 2 of my fish died. My longnose butterfly and my flame angel have died and my clown, wrasse, and small blue tang are now in a QT being treated with hypo. I would like to get another butterfly and flame angel because I didnt have them that long. My question is, after I sort out my ich situation and I add these two new fish will I have any aggression problems with the wrasse or tang?

06/16/2006, 01:52 AM	#2
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The blue tang will get too large for that tank. I'd find another fish. The longnose and the flame angel should be fine, although the flame might pick at some corals, if you are considering adding any at any time. For a FOWLR, they're a very nice animal, IMO. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

06/16/2006, 02:25 AM	#3
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	Remember to QT ANYTHING WET that you intend to put in the main tank or you will likely end up with ich again just like before. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

06/16/2006, 08:20 AM	#5
Freed It's what it's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 41° 2' 45" N 85° 8' 43" W Posts: 7,579	Too bad we can't weed out the misinformed posters who know nothing about ich, or who at least refuse to learn. __________________ Freed Current Tank Info: 180gal(1120 watts of MH/VHO light), 60gal "sump", Deltec 601 calcium reactor, Euro Reef CS8-3+ skimmer, 20 gallon QT

06/16/2006, 09:12 AM	#7
JRistau81 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 264	I quarantine all fish. I don't have the means to QT corals for the light not beinfg sufficient, but I have still yet to have an ich outbreak. __________________ I like pigs. Dogs look up to us; cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals. - Winston Churchill Current Tank Info: 150 gallon, 2 Hamilton 400w 14K Metal halide, Red Sea Berlin Skimmer (Don't scoff, it works well), 150-200 lbs LR, 50 lbs LS, 100 lbs Southdown...anything else?

06/16/2006, 03:33 AM	#4
Teremei Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Chicago (one hour west) Posts: 2,751	No wonder they got bad ich. You had way too many fish and large sized ones too! For that small of a tank. Secret to beating ich: Lots of open swimming room, healthy water params, peaceful neighbors. Pay attention to fish size and required tank size. And only add 1 fish every month until the tank is considered "full". Quarantining or lack thereof is not going to solve the posters problem. Cramped living space was the main problem. When a fish gets ich, it is only magnified if the living conditions are stressful.

06/16/2006, 09:03 AM	#6
theop Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 1,493	I'll also add the suggestion that you leave your display tank fallow (with no fish in it) for at least 6 weeks to clear it of ich. Inverts are ok.

06/16/2006, 12:58 PM	#8
Brandon M Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,116	Let me make this clear, the blue tang is fairly small...around an inch and a half. By time its gets too large I plan on upgrading my tank. Also, I do plan on QT'ing everything. No one seemed to answer my question...will I have any aggression problems when adding my other fish? __________________ Brandon Current Tank Info: 315g 84"x24"x36" FOWLR

06/16/2006, 02:36 PM	#10
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Aggression problems are hard to predict. I don't see anything that leads me to suspect you'll see aggression. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni