is he going to be ok? new tang just acclimated to qt *vid*

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 11:39 AM

just acclimated a new tang i ordered off liveaquaria. The bag water temp that I recieved the fish in was 72 degrees! Yikes! The poor guy wasnt really swimming at all, morte of just laying there. I did a temp acclimation by setting the bag in the tank and letting it adjust. And then i proceded to do the cup ever 4 minutes routine. When done he perked up a good bit so i netted him into the qt tank. Well he was ****ed that I netted him and he struggled in the net, releasing his scapels. When i put the net in the qt tank he tried to dash away but his little scapel was caught in the net. I tried and tried and finally ripped a hole in the net to release him. I am monitoring him closely but he is just kind of sitting in a corner of the tank at the moment. Here is a video of him less than an hour into his new qt tank.

http://fish.conceyted.com/vid/newybhippo.mpg

Slowly but surely he jumps up a little and swims half way up the glass then he sits back down. I know he just went through a lot of stress maybe he just wants to rest

What do you all think?

tkeracer619 · 06/27/2006, 11:50 AM

1 don't net fish.

2 My internet rocks or your 20 meg video would take all day to get =]

3 Sounds like a rought 24hours. Personally I will never mail order fish again. Of the 4 I have ordered one made it and I just got my money back. Atleast live aquaria will get you another one or give you your money back if he dies.

It doesnt look good.... I would turn the lights off and add a large pvc pipe to make him more comftorble. He looks like he wants to hide.

Good luck

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 11:56 AM

Most of my fish were mail ordered and not many problems at all. There are large pieces of pvc for him to hide in on the other side of the tank. I went ahead and turned out the lights. Lets hope he makes it.

Ps: 20 megs for a video is pretty darn small

tkeracer619 · 06/27/2006, 12:01 PM

i hope he does. they are great fishes. I have my source picked out and as soon as my qt is available in goes the hippo.

AquaReeferMan · 06/27/2006, 12:05 PM

Yeah I never use a net when handling saltwater fish. I would keep a close eye on it. It seems to be breathing very heavly. Wow you change a cup every 4 minutes??? I do a cup every 30 minutes. Also 72 degrees isnt bad. Good luck and I hope it calms down

Brandon M · 06/27/2006, 12:18 PM

What would everyone recommend besides a net?

tkeracer619 · 06/27/2006, 12:20 PM

a glass, cup, bucket, acrylic box, the bag it came in............. anything but a net

dime079 · 06/27/2006, 12:26 PM

yeah no nets, and was that music on in the background of your house or did you add it to the video? haha

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 12:30 PM

hehe no didnt add music... im listening to an ambient genre shoutcast

Marinemom · 06/27/2006, 12:57 PM

Blue Hippos can be some of the most difficult tangs to get adjusted to aquarium life. i would provide something for him to hide in and keep the lights out for the entire day and night. Keep an eye on the water perimeters and be ready to do a water change if necessary ASAP. Other than that, give him some time and let him settle in. Continue to monitor and observe him for any signs of disease like ich or marine velvet. If that happens I would try hyposalinity. Good luck with him and i hope he makes it. keep us posted.

Marinemom

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 03:08 PM

quick update before I head to work. As I previously stated I turned the lights on his tank off and turned the room lights off. He found his was into a rear corner next to some pvc and has wedged himself there. He keeps his fins moving and keeps himself in the upright position mostly but he isnt hovering off the bottom much at all. He is basically resting against pvc and the bottom of the tank. He does have lively spurts which makes me think he could still be okay, but only time will tell I guess. I have yet to see him make a swim around the tank. Except during the net incident.

Bradco · 06/27/2006, 03:32 PM

I just got 2 today 1 Flame and 1 purple tang from Live aquaria they are currently in the QT tank the Tang seems okay but the Flame is just hanging in one corner, I am hoping he is just scared his color seems very light i am watching over him like a mother hen, i tried to feed them only the tang ate, next 24 hours will tell, but as they said Live aquaria will either credit or give refund, but I'd rather see him perk up

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 03:47 PM

yea this is def not my first purchase from la I am just worried for the fish not my money

bjolly · 06/27/2006, 04:32 PM

blue hippos like to wedge themselves into spots like that to rest. hopefully he's just hanging out. My blue hippo was very timid and inactive the whole time he was in qt, didn't really swim around much at all and ate poorly. When he went in the main tank he perked up immediately.

bllfish · 06/27/2006, 05:35 PM

Put some live rock or something he can hide in. He will be OK, just freaked out with no where to hide.

nicolicious · 06/27/2006, 05:48 PM

is it true you have to feed the really small ones 4 times a day?

i bought one two weeks ago and put him in 6 month old tank (with places to hide) and for 3 days he seemed happy...he was swimming and eating and looking very normal and healthy....

than on the fourth day he was dead on the bottom on the tank all pale....i had been feeding my tank four times a day for the first two days than i took it to three than two and than dead....

bllfish · 06/27/2006, 05:50 PM

I do not know about feeding 4X per day. They just seem to be very fragile until they get larger. You never really know how they were collected either.

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 10:06 PM

this guy is 3.5 inches although he does look a lot smaller on the video

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 10:44 PM

just got home. He wedged himself in the back corner behind some pvc, and his fins werent moving. I wasnt sure if he had died so i moved the pvc a little and he swam backwards and into a different corner. I am gonna leave him alone tomorrow and hope for the best. He looks like he was just sleeping or something. I dunno this is really a bummer. I never knew I could be this stressed out over a fish :-/

poppin_fresh · 06/27/2006, 10:53 PM

I have lost two hippos in the last month. I had a tiny one that I nursed back from near death, only to have it get stuck to my Tunze 3 days after leaving QT. I then bought a larger one, only to have it die in QT of velvet with in 1 1/2 days. It sucks to lose $70 worth of fish in a week!

Both of my Tangs would scoot to a corner and play dead everytime I got near the QT. I think the behavior you are seeing is normal for them. Just keep an eye out for ich or velvet.

masson · 06/27/2006, 11:05 PM

Do you have any places for him to hide in the tank ?

Sk8r · 06/27/2006, 11:06 PM

Tangs are great at hiding. Don't let him know you see him.

Conceyted · 06/27/2006, 11:06 PM

yes I have tons of pvc pipes some stacked up to form caves. He doesnt seem to care...

Teremei · 06/28/2006, 12:09 AM

How's he doing now? Breathing a little better?

Conceyted · 06/28/2006, 12:22 AM

breathing is much slower. But hes not moving too much. I will give you all an update in the morning when the sunlight shines through the curtains a little.

06/27/2006, 11:39 AM	#1
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	is he going to be ok? new tang just acclimated to qt vid just acclimated a new tang i ordered off liveaquaria. The bag water temp that I recieved the fish in was 72 degrees! Yikes! The poor guy wasnt really swimming at all, morte of just laying there. I did a temp acclimation by setting the bag in the tank and letting it adjust. And then i proceded to do the cup ever 4 minutes routine. When done he perked up a good bit so i netted him into the qt tank. Well he was ****ed that I netted him and he struggled in the net, releasing his scapels. When i put the net in the qt tank he tried to dash away but his little scapel was caught in the net. I tried and tried and finally ripped a hole in the net to release him. I am monitoring him closely but he is just kind of sitting in a corner of the tank at the moment. Here is a video of him less than an hour into his new qt tank. http://fish.conceyted.com/vid/newybhippo.mpg Slowly but surely he jumps up a little and swims half way up the glass then he sits back down. I know he just went through a lot of stress maybe he just wants to rest What do you all think? __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 11:50 AM	#2
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	1 don't net fish. 2 My internet rocks or your 20 meg video would take all day to get =] 3 Sounds like a rought 24hours. Personally I will never mail order fish again. Of the 4 I have ordered one made it and I just got my money back. Atleast live aquaria will get you another one or give you your money back if he dies. It doesnt look good.... I would turn the lights off and add a large pvc pipe to make him more comftorble. He looks like he wants to hide. Good luck __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

06/27/2006, 11:56 AM	#3
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	Most of my fish were mail ordered and not many problems at all. There are large pieces of pvc for him to hide in on the other side of the tank. I went ahead and turned out the lights. Lets hope he makes it. Ps: 20 megs for a video is pretty darn small __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 12:01 PM	#4
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	i hope he does. they are great fishes. I have my source picked out and as soon as my qt is available in goes the hippo. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

06/27/2006, 12:05 PM	#5
AquaReeferMan Got Reef? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Under the Sea, Pa Posts: 4,593	Yeah I never use a net when handling saltwater fish. I would keep a close eye on it. It seems to be breathing very heavly. Wow you change a cup every 4 minutes??? I do a cup every 30 minutes. Also 72 degrees isnt bad. Good luck and I hope it calms down __________________ Couple SPS/Zoanthid tanks and a couple of FW planted tanks. Current Tank Info: 5 pieces of glass with some silicone and plastic frames holding them together

06/27/2006, 12:18 PM	#6
Brandon M Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,116	What would everyone recommend besides a net? __________________ Brandon Current Tank Info: 315g 84"x24"x36" FOWLR

06/27/2006, 12:20 PM	#7
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	a glass, cup, bucket, acrylic box, the bag it came in............. anything but a net __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

06/27/2006, 12:26 PM	#8
dime079 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 236	yeah no nets, and was that music on in the background of your house or did you add it to the video? haha __________________ i only wanted a nano tank, what do you mean 500$ start-up costs?!?!?! all my money, damn fishes Current Tank Info: 10g nano reef, 55 reef in planning

06/27/2006, 12:30 PM	#9
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	hehe no didnt add music... im listening to an ambient genre shoutcast __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 12:57 PM	#10
Marinemom Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 534	Blue Hippos can be some of the most difficult tangs to get adjusted to aquarium life. i would provide something for him to hide in and keep the lights out for the entire day and night. Keep an eye on the water perimeters and be ready to do a water change if necessary ASAP. Other than that, give him some time and let him settle in. Continue to monitor and observe him for any signs of disease like ich or marine velvet. If that happens I would try hyposalinity. Good luck with him and i hope he makes it. keep us posted. Marinemom

06/27/2006, 03:08 PM	#11
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	quick update before I head to work. As I previously stated I turned the lights on his tank off and turned the room lights off. He found his was into a rear corner next to some pvc and has wedged himself there. He keeps his fins moving and keeps himself in the upright position mostly but he isnt hovering off the bottom much at all. He is basically resting against pvc and the bottom of the tank. He does have lively spurts which makes me think he could still be okay, but only time will tell I guess. I have yet to see him make a swim around the tank. Except during the net incident. __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 03:32 PM	#12
Bradco Premium Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Haven, Connecticut Posts: 145	I just got 2 today 1 Flame and 1 purple tang from Live aquaria they are currently in the QT tank the Tang seems okay but the Flame is just hanging in one corner, I am hoping he is just scared his color seems very light i am watching over him like a mother hen, i tried to feed them only the tang ate, next 24 hours will tell, but as they said Live aquaria will either credit or give refund, but I'd rather see him perk up __________________ MCSE,MCP,MCP+I CCA,CCEA Current Tank Info: 125g 160lbs Live sand 150lbs LR 1 Purple Tang, 1 Scopas Tang 1 Foxface 1 striped Damsel 1 Powder Blue 1 Fire Angel 1 Blonde Naso 1 Striped Puffer pom pom Xenia green mushroom rock.CB Shrimp, 2 Brittle Stars, 1 Sand sifting Star, Serpent Star

06/27/2006, 03:47 PM	#13
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	yea this is def not my first purchase from la I am just worried for the fish not my money __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 04:32 PM	#14
bjolly Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Baltimore Posts: 599	blue hippos like to wedge themselves into spots like that to rest. hopefully he's just hanging out. My blue hippo was very timid and inactive the whole time he was in qt, didn't really swim around much at all and ate poorly. When he went in the main tank he perked up immediately.

06/27/2006, 05:35 PM	#15
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	Put some live rock or something he can hide in. He will be OK, just freaked out with no where to hide. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

06/27/2006, 05:48 PM	#16
nicolicious Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 202	is it true is it true you have to feed the really small ones 4 times a day? i bought one two weeks ago and put him in 6 month old tank (with places to hide) and for 3 days he seemed happy...he was swimming and eating and looking very normal and healthy.... than on the fourth day he was dead on the bottom on the tank all pale....i had been feeding my tank four times a day for the first two days than i took it to three than two and than dead....

06/27/2006, 05:50 PM	#17
bllfish Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuart, Florida Posts: 1,818	I do not know about feeding 4X per day. They just seem to be very fragile until they get larger. You never really know how they were collected either. __________________ "I fish by myself because lots of people don't like me, and the ones that do like me, well, I don't want them to know my spots." ><)))))*>--- Current Tank Info: 72 bow, 36" stand, 4 54W T5, vantec stealth fans, eheim 1260, mj 1200 & 2 Koralia #1 to WaveMaster Pro, CPR 24" Aquafuge HOB & 7100K PC, JBJ Arctica chiller, LiterMeter III

06/27/2006, 10:06 PM	#18
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	this guy is 3.5 inches although he does look a lot smaller on the video __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 10:44 PM	#19
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	just got home. He wedged himself in the back corner behind some pvc, and his fins werent moving. I wasnt sure if he had died so i moved the pvc a little and he swam backwards and into a different corner. I am gonna leave him alone tomorrow and hope for the best. He looks like he was just sleeping or something. I dunno this is really a bummer. I never knew I could be this stressed out over a fish :-/ __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem

06/27/2006, 10:53 PM	#20
poppin_fresh Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,982	I have lost two hippos in the last month. I had a tiny one that I nursed back from near death, only to have it get stuck to my Tunze 3 days after leaving QT. I then bought a larger one, only to have it die in QT of velvet with in 1 1/2 days. It sucks to lose $70 worth of fish in a week! Both of my Tangs would scoot to a corner and play dead everytime I got near the QT. I think the behavior you are seeing is normal for them. Just keep an eye out for ich or velvet. __________________ PBITAWA! Current Tank Info: None now. Past- 180g w/ 100g basement sump and 20g 'fuge. H & S skimmer, T'5s & Tunze

06/27/2006, 11:05 PM	#21
masson Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cocoa Beach FL Posts: 2,404	Do you have any places for him to hide in the tank ? __________________ Our stupidity footprint is catching up to our carbon.

06/27/2006, 11:06 PM	#22
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Tangs are great at hiding. Don't let him know you see him. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

06/28/2006, 12:09 AM	#24
Teremei Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Chicago (one hour west) Posts: 2,751	How's he doing now? Breathing a little better?

06/28/2006, 12:22 AM	#25
Conceyted Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,123	breathing is much slower. But hes not moving too much. I will give you all an update in the morning when the sunlight shines through the curtains a little. __________________ -Chris and Jaime Current Tank Info: Rimless & Sumped Biocube Clownfish/BTA Harem