New sump.......... need a REFUGE size

Zoom · 06/28/2006, 11:23 AM

I'm building a new 50G sump and l Iike to know have big a fuge need to be for a 200 Gallon tank .
I never had a fuge in this reef tank ever but i like to use one but don't know how much room the chaeto need to have so it can grow in my new sump.
I'm building this sump from a 50 gallon 36''Lx18"H x18"W AGA tank.
I was trying to get some good reefers with experience to build me a acrylic sump but to no availability they most be very busy ,so I will build it my self

Thank you all .

melev · 06/28/2006, 11:38 AM

10% - or 20g.

Steve, you can do it!!!

melev · 06/28/2006, 11:40 AM

Wait....if you are using a tank that is 36" long, you have to leave enough room for your skimmer too. You'll probably want to keep the refugium section rather narrow, like 8" wide or so. That leaves you with 12" for the skimmer and 12" for the return plus your bubble trap baffles.

Zoom · 06/28/2006, 11:44 AM

Thanks Marc. No skimmer in the sump the skimmer is outside the stand just overflows in the sump.

melev · 06/28/2006, 11:58 AM

So will you have the skimmer draining into the sump?

Zoom · 06/28/2006, 11:59 AM

Yes

melev · 06/28/2006, 12:02 PM

Okay, reduce the section where the tank drains into, as well as your skimmer. I'd make this section 8" wide, and increase the refugium to 12" wide and the return should stay 12" wide.

Zoom · 06/28/2006, 12:09 PM

ok Thank you

Zoom · 07/18/2006, 03:13 PM

Ok here is my new sump it is all glass 50 G sump made out of 18"x 18"x 36" AGA tank it has 15G fuge, raw water trap for skimmer feed and over and under bobble reducer.
It cost me .
$110 50G AGA tank with three holes drill one for the return one for the skimmer pump, and one for the emergency overflow drain.
$115 glass partitions.
$ 10 Silicon
About 5 Hours of work.
total $235 + my time. The only thing is..........this thing is heavy.

Here a top down look.

This is the water path.

melev · 07/18/2006, 04:51 PM

Steve, did you get the top of the panels polished so you won't get cut working in the sump? How thick is the glass?

Nice job.

Zoom · 07/18/2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by melev
Steve, did you get the top of the panels polished so you won't get cut working in the sump? How thick is the glass?

Nice job.

Yes everything is Polished . The glass shop did a great job. I have to wait to install the sump next week the silicon need some time to cure. the glass is 1/4".

Zoom · 07/27/2006, 08:28 PM

Done.

The tank drains here and the skimmer drains in the second compartment so the skimmer gets first dirty water.

melev · 07/28/2006, 12:10 AM

That looks great. Nice and clean.

06/28/2006, 11:23 AM	#1
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	New sump.......... need a REFUGE size I'm building a new 50G sump and l Iike to know have big a fuge need to be for a 200 Gallon tank . I never had a fuge in this reef tank ever but i like to use one but don't know how much room the chaeto need to have so it can grow in my new sump. I'm building this sump from a 50 gallon 36''Lx18"H x18"W AGA tank. I was trying to get some good reefers with experience to build me a acrylic sump but to no availability they most be very busy ,so I will build it my self Thank you all .

07/18/2006, 03:13 PM	#9
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Ok here is my new sump it is all glass 50 G sump made out of 18"x 18"x 36" AGA tank it has 15G fuge, raw water trap for skimmer feed and over and under bobble reducer. It cost me . $110 50G AGA tank with three holes drill one for the return one for the skimmer pump, and one for the emergency overflow drain. $115 glass partitions. $ 10 Silicon About 5 Hours of work. total $235 + my time. The only thing is..........this thing is heavy. Here a top down look. This is the water path. Last edited by Zoom; 07/18/2006 at 03:34 PM.

07/27/2006, 08:28 PM	#12
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Done. The tank drains here and the skimmer drains in the second compartment so the skimmer gets first dirty water. Last edited by Zoom; 07/27/2006 at 08:39 PM.

06/28/2006, 11:38 AM	#2
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	10% - or 20g. Steve, you can do it!!!

06/28/2006, 11:40 AM	#3
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Wait....if you are using a tank that is 36" long, you have to leave enough room for your skimmer too. You'll probably want to keep the refugium section rather narrow, like 8" wide or so. That leaves you with 12" for the skimmer and 12" for the return plus your bubble trap baffles.

06/28/2006, 11:44 AM	#4
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Thanks Marc. No skimmer in the sump the skimmer is outside the stand just overflows in the sump.

06/28/2006, 11:58 AM	#5
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	So will you have the skimmer draining into the sump?

06/28/2006, 11:59 AM	#6
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Yes

06/28/2006, 12:02 PM	#7
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Okay, reduce the section where the tank drains into, as well as your skimmer. I'd make this section 8" wide, and increase the refugium to 12" wide and the return should stay 12" wide.

06/28/2006, 12:09 PM	#8
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	ok Thank you

07/18/2006, 04:51 PM	#10
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Steve, did you get the top of the panels polished so you won't get cut working in the sump? How thick is the glass? Nice job.

07/28/2006, 12:10 AM	#13
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	That looks great. Nice and clean.