What temp is the right temp for FOWLR

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 12:11 PM

I live in thailand so its HOT all day everyday.

My tank temp was 86 until i added a new 1200 GPH powerhead (tank is 225g) and now its 89.6

I know if i want to have any coral i am going to have to get a chiller.

But can i have fish in 89.6 water?

geekreef_05 · 06/28/2006, 12:55 PM

I would advise against it. Most FOWLR tanks tend to run colder than reef's. Mine happens to run at 79-80, which is the average temp for reefs.

But more to the point most natural reef's around the world do not have temperatures of 90 degrees for more than a month out of the year; I can imagine that although these reef systems cope with the heat, it is not the most comfortable environment. 90 degree temp is definately a celicing for reef aquaria. Thus my advice would be to lower the temp; a chiller would be in order.

If you currently have inhabitants in your aquarium, I would suggest putting ice cubes into the water as a temporary solution.

AngeloM3 · 06/28/2006, 02:30 PM

110 degrees

i heard fish like hot tubs

nah... 75-79 is good

AngeloM3 · 06/28/2006, 02:31 PM

if you are using a heater........ try taking that out and not using one

that might drop the temp a little

Amphiprion · 06/28/2006, 02:34 PM

Have you tried using fans? Most fish aren't going to like water that hot, especially not 24 hours per day. In the ocean, they can move to various depths and hence, different temps. It would be best to keep it around 78-82 degrees, or a bit cooler.

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 02:35 PM

Will the high temp effect my cycle that i have going in the tank right now?

Can a tank cycle properly at a higher temp?

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 02:41 PM

No i have not tried using fans... but the average daytime temprature here is around 86-96...

i have only very light amounts of lighting.... just some fleuros for now...

FavaBean · 06/28/2006, 02:50 PM

mailoo.....I second the fans......My 55 gallon was getting around 86 but then I added two little clip on fans and now it stays around 80.....02 cents

hgbarwick · 06/28/2006, 02:51 PM

You need to get your temperature down. You should add some fans.

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 03:02 PM

ok i can try that... fans are cheap here...

Point them at the surface?

hgbarwick · 06/28/2006, 03:24 PM

yes

Avi · 06/28/2006, 04:26 PM

Have them blow length-wise across the surface if possible.

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 04:46 PM

Ok so i pulled the two front sections of the 3 peice hood off, thenj i grabbed a household fan (rather big one) and stuck it on top of a couple of boxes and have it pointed at the waters surface blowing length wise and towards where the air may escape from the room.

I have the fan running on 3 its max output.... and let me tell ya there is a fairly cool and strong breeze running over the surface... you can see the water rippling on the wind....

Lets see how it is in the morning...

mailoo · 06/28/2006, 05:50 PM

Well in this short time it has already come down from 90 to 86 again.

hgbarwick · 06/28/2006, 07:58 PM

try adding another fan.

mailoo · 06/30/2006, 01:57 AM

just one domestic fan on a stand run overnight dropped the temp to 81-82... just amazing.

Now i have removed the huge pond pump from inside the tank that i was using as a powerhead (1200 GPH) and put on in thats 1/2 the size... and i am maintaining the temp with a desk fan.

Soon we will be buying some computer case fans and installing them into our hood sucking and blowing.

hgbarwick · 07/02/2006, 07:04 AM

ok

06/28/2006, 12:11 PM	#1
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	What temp is the right temp for FOWLR I live in thailand so its HOT all day everyday. My tank temp was 86 until i added a new 1200 GPH powerhead (tank is 225g) and now its 89.6 I know if i want to have any coral i am going to have to get a chiller. But can i have fish in 89.6 water?

06/28/2006, 12:55 PM	#2
geekreef_05 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 626	I would advise against it. Most FOWLR tanks tend to run colder than reef's. Mine happens to run at 79-80, which is the average temp for reefs. But more to the point most natural reef's around the world do not have temperatures of 90 degrees for more than a month out of the year; I can imagine that although these reef systems cope with the heat, it is not the most comfortable environment. 90 degree temp is definately a celicing for reef aquaria. Thus my advice would be to lower the temp; a chiller would be in order. If you currently have inhabitants in your aquarium, I would suggest putting ice cubes into the water as a temporary solution. __________________ A good aquarium is like a beautiful woman. Shes nice to look at but requires daily attention and constantly leaves you broke. Current Tank Info: 15H Mixed Reef, 150 HQI, 25lbs Vanuatu, SSB; 60 gal FOWLR 'Tap Water' Show Tank; 33L Skimmerless Softie Reef w/ BTA, 50/50 PC's, 70lbs Indo

06/28/2006, 02:30 PM	#3
AngeloM3 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,016	110 degrees i heard fish like hot tubs nah... 75-79 is good __________________ "I'm sick of chasing my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where their going and catch up with them later." -Mitch Hedberg R.I.P

06/28/2006, 02:31 PM	#4
AngeloM3 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 1,016	if you are using a heater........ try taking that out and not using one that might drop the temp a little __________________ "I'm sick of chasing my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where their going and catch up with them later." -Mitch Hedberg R.I.P

06/28/2006, 02:34 PM	#5
Amphiprion Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 6,611	Have you tried using fans? Most fish aren't going to like water that hot, especially not 24 hours per day. In the ocean, they can move to various depths and hence, different temps. It would be best to keep it around 78-82 degrees, or a bit cooler. __________________ You've done it now, haven't you? Current Tank Info: 40g breeder patch reef w/ seagrass; 2-250w XM 10K; Vortech MP40wES & MP10wES; BM Curve 7 skimmer; carbon & occasional GFO

06/28/2006, 02:35 PM	#6
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	Will the high temp effect my cycle that i have going in the tank right now? Can a tank cycle properly at a higher temp? __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

06/28/2006, 02:41 PM	#7
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	No i have not tried using fans... but the average daytime temprature here is around 86-96... i have only very light amounts of lighting.... just some fleuros for now... __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

06/28/2006, 02:50 PM	#8
FavaBean Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Abilene Texas Posts: 789	mailoo.....I second the fans......My 55 gallon was getting around 86 but then I added two little clip on fans and now it stays around 80.....02 cents

06/28/2006, 02:51 PM	#9
hgbarwick Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Plant City, Florida Posts: 1,390	You need to get your temperature down. You should add some fans.

06/28/2006, 03:02 PM	#10
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	ok i can try that... fans are cheap here... Point them at the surface? __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

06/28/2006, 03:24 PM	#11
hgbarwick Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Plant City, Florida Posts: 1,390	yes

06/28/2006, 04:26 PM	#12
Avi Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Westchester County, NY Posts: 7,327	Have them blow length-wise across the surface if possible. __________________ I'd keep the whole ocean if my den were big enough Current Tank Info: 120 gallon reef with 210 lbs. of live rock, Aqua-C EV180 Skimmer, Aquactinic double 250W MH with blue plus t5 support; 58 gallon freshwater planted tank using CO2 and T5s; 30-gallon cube with a few fancy goldfish; and a 110 gallon FOWLR

06/28/2006, 04:46 PM	#13
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	Ok so i pulled the two front sections of the 3 peice hood off, thenj i grabbed a household fan (rather big one) and stuck it on top of a couple of boxes and have it pointed at the waters surface blowing length wise and towards where the air may escape from the room. I have the fan running on 3 its max output.... and let me tell ya there is a fairly cool and strong breeze running over the surface... you can see the water rippling on the wind.... Lets see how it is in the morning... __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

06/28/2006, 05:50 PM	#14
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	Well in this short time it has already come down from 90 to 86 again. __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

06/28/2006, 07:58 PM	#15
hgbarwick Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Plant City, Florida Posts: 1,390	try adding another fan.

06/30/2006, 01:57 AM	#16
mailoo Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 153	just one domestic fan on a stand run overnight dropped the temp to 81-82... just amazing. Now i have removed the huge pond pump from inside the tank that i was using as a powerhead (1200 GPH) and put on in thats 1/2 the size... and i am maintaining the temp with a desk fan. Soon we will be buying some computer case fans and installing them into our hood sucking and blowing. __________________ Mailoo Current Tank Info: none Right now

07/02/2006, 07:04 AM	#17
hgbarwick Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Plant City, Florida Posts: 1,390	ok