Feeding

inadaze · 07/12/2006, 11:46 AM

Hello,
I have been feeding my fish a home mix (shrimp, crab, scallops, octopus...) that i blend and freeze. I do so because I worry about all the jelly preserves that surround the bought food that I have tried and because I save money by doing so.

But now I am trying to be a little more serious about my hobby. I am starting a new aquarium from bits of my old one and I have just a few damsels to cycle the aquarium. I was wondering if I could continue with this fresh then frozen diet or if people would suggest buying the store bought stuff.

Cheers,
Jay

Travis L. Stevens · 07/12/2006, 01:40 PM

If your fish will eat it, there should be no problem. I do recommend removing the damsels to cycle the aquarium. There are more humane ways to cycle an aquarium such as adding uncured live rock, or adding extra food or a piece of raw shrimp left to decompose.

Oh, make sure that the food in your mush does not contain preservatives such as phosphates, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG), etc.

carfac · 07/12/2006, 01:51 PM

+ 1

no need for the damsels.

inadaze · 07/12/2006, 02:00 PM

The damsels were left over from my old aquarium, I didn't get them especially for the cycling. It was either I put them in my new setup or sell them. I thought I was being nice to them by keeping them... I didn't think that it would be inhumane...

Is it really a problem? they are only three small damsels in a 50 gal. I've been checking the water and there is no water quality problems. And they seem fine and eat well. Are you suggesting I get rid of them?

Cheers,
Jay

Travis L. Stevens · 07/12/2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by inadaze
The damsels were left over from my old aquarium, I didn't get them especially for the cycling. It was either I put them in my new setup or sell them. I thought I was being nice to them by keeping them... I didn't think that it would be inhumane...

Is it really a problem? they are only three small damsels in a 50 gal. I've been checking the water and there is no water quality problems. And they seem fine and eat well. Are you suggesting I get rid of them?

Cheers,
Jay

It's a matter of ethics and personal opinion. I can't and won't actively try to sway anyone's beliefs, but will feel free to post my opinion. If you feel swayed by my opinion, I'm either sorry that I did that because it wasn't my intention or happy to see someone that cares about their livestock; whichever the case may be.

The reason I feel cycling with damsels is a problem is because even the slightest ammonia can have lasting damage to a fish's overall health. It's kind of like a pregnant mother drinking alcohol. When the baby is born, there might not be any outward signs of problems, but the child could be seriously damaged. There is also the problem of territory. Damsels command a large amount of territory. Usually while they are small or juveniles, it isn't much of a problem, but they will quickly find a pecking order and as they grow will harrass or kill anything that comes into it's territory, including previously established/tolerated fish. Also, they are very difficult to get out of an established tank. Often getting them out causes great stress on other livestock in the tank. Whether you choose to chase it with a net, pull out all the rock, drain the tank, etc, it is something that could have been avoided from the start. I guess, in short, it would be my opinion that you should take them out and find a tank that is either better suited for them or an aquarist that has the intention on keeping them properly.

inadaze · 07/12/2006, 06:09 PM

boy, I am sorry I put them in. Seriously, I did not think that it would be that bad. I will take them out and find a better home for them. and I will know better next time.

Never thought of things like that.
cheers,
Jason

07/12/2006, 11:46 AM	#1
inadaze Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 41	Feeding Hello, I have been feeding my fish a home mix (shrimp, crab, scallops, octopus...) that i blend and freeze. I do so because I worry about all the jelly preserves that surround the bought food that I have tried and because I save money by doing so. But now I am trying to be a little more serious about my hobby. I am starting a new aquarium from bits of my old one and I have just a few damsels to cycle the aquarium. I was wondering if I could continue with this fresh then frozen diet or if people would suggest buying the store bought stuff. Cheers, Jay

07/12/2006, 01:40 PM	#2
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	If your fish will eat it, there should be no problem. I do recommend removing the damsels to cycle the aquarium. There are more humane ways to cycle an aquarium such as adding uncured live rock, or adding extra food or a piece of raw shrimp left to decompose. Oh, make sure that the food in your mush does not contain preservatives such as phosphates, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG), etc. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

07/12/2006, 01:51 PM	#3
carfac Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 362	+ 1 no need for the damsels.

07/12/2006, 02:00 PM	#4
inadaze Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 41	The damsels were left over from my old aquarium, I didn't get them especially for the cycling. It was either I put them in my new setup or sell them. I thought I was being nice to them by keeping them... I didn't think that it would be inhumane... Is it really a problem? they are only three small damsels in a 50 gal. I've been checking the water and there is no water quality problems. And they seem fine and eat well. Are you suggesting I get rid of them? Cheers, Jay

07/12/2006, 06:09 PM	#6
inadaze Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 41	boy, I am sorry I put them in. Seriously, I did not think that it would be that bad. I will take them out and find a better home for them. and I will know better next time. Never thought of things like that. cheers, Jason