Deresa Clam and Squamosa Clam - Can I have them under 260w PC?

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 03:22 PM

Deresa Clam and Squamosa Clam - Can I have them under 260w PC?

Just wondering if I can keep these type of clams under 260w of PC lighting?

I would be buying them from marinedepotlive: http://www.marinedepotlive.com/clams.html
I did though see that liveaquaria.com is elling, so which would be a better vendor of clams???

Would also like to know about placement (can I place them up high in the rocks, or need to be on sand?) Does it need to be in the sand, or can I keep it up high where it would be closer to light?

What about Predation? I have a Gold Coral Banded Shrimp, a cleaner shrimp, several blue leg crabs, Yellow Tang, Royal Gramma Basslet, Clownfish, and a Mothersailfin Blenny. Would it be ok?

reefnewbie54321 · 07/23/2006, 03:30 PM

Try the clam forum ... I say yes

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 03:32 PM

I did but have not gotten any responses. I want to order today so it can ship out on Monday. So anybody???

RichConley · 07/23/2006, 03:39 PM

I think a derasa would be fine. Squammy, maybe, but most likely ok

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 03:44 PM

Would you think its better to just get two Deresa? I really don't want to waste my money$$$, BUT if Squammy can survive under that lighting, then I am ok with it.

RichConley · 07/23/2006, 03:46 PM

squammy might be fine. I've just never tried it, so I Dont know. I know a derasa will be fine.

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 03:47 PM

Cool stuff RichConley.

Has anyone tried a Squamosa clam under 260w of PC lighting (55g tank)??? Would like to know if they can survive.

faddn1 · 07/23/2006, 04:35 PM

I have had a squammy under 260 watts in a 75g for about 4 months with no problems. I just recently switched to T5s. I also had mine about 6-8 inches below the water surface. I know have him on the sand.

masterqaz · 07/23/2006, 04:54 PM

How deep is your tank? If it is a deeper tank 24'' or more than i'd probably stick with the derasa. squamosas will be fine under PC lighting as long as there is enough of it and they are close enough to the light 18'' or less. They also will do better under Pc lighting if you feed them more often. Personally i'd go with to derasas as derasas can come in some nice colours and they are just generally easyer to keep.

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 05:02 PM

Awesome! thanks Masterqaz. Thats what I needed to hear. The light to the sand is 18" and the tank is a 55g under 260w of PC.

NOw, should I get the Aquacultured or not? Liveaquaria offers the aquacultured, whereas I don't think marinedepotlive offers aquacultered.

cristhiam · 07/23/2006, 05:50 PM

Go for it but check out www.clamsdirect.com they have a very good reputation too.

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 07:57 PM

thank you for that link. I'll call them tomorrow to see if they can ship that same day. thanks again!

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 09:30 PM

Should I even consider any other clams under 260w of PC lighting in a 55g reef tank?

I saw some on clamsdirect.com that I love but do not know if I can sustain them under this lighting. I liked Maxima and Crocea. Can I get these or am I restricted Derasa and Squamosa?

ek9vboi · 07/23/2006, 11:05 PM

From what I was told by an honest LFS emplyee, my tank has 130w of PC over a 29g... which is 18" high. He said to stick with a crocea because the maxima demands more light. either way i am waiting before i get anything. i want to see some coraline agle and i really need to stabilize my calc. levels.

chrisbenavides · 07/23/2006, 11:19 PM

Is this honest LFS guy knowledgeable about clams? If I were to hear people saying that they kept these clams under 260w PC lighting in a 55g tank, I would feel more comfortable. I know most people say stick to the Derasa and maybe Squamosa, but gosh, maybe, if possible could I get a Crocea as well, or not recommended? I roughly have 5 watts per gallon and about 18" in height.

chrisbenavides · 07/24/2006, 12:42 AM

Could they out grow my tank in a year? Whats their growth rate? Like I said they would be in a 55g tank.

neotekz · 07/24/2006, 12:57 AM

i have a squamosa under 192w in my 18in tank, it;s right on the sand about 2 inches up. it's quickly outgrowing my 35g tank so i think u will not have problems with either squamosa or derasas. but if u can get a derasas i think they are nicer than squamosa, i've never been able to find one locally.

chrisbenavides · 07/24/2006, 01:04 AM

Whic are more colorful? Squamosa or Derasa?

mbbuna · 07/24/2006, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ek9vboi
He said to stick with a crocea because the maxima demands more light.

Croceas are the most light demanding of all the clams. followed closely by Maxima

07/23/2006, 03:22 PM	#1
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Deresa Clam and Squamosa Clam - Can I have them under 260w PC? Deresa Clam and Squamosa Clam - Can I have them under 260w PC? Just wondering if I can keep these type of clams under 260w of PC lighting? I would be buying them from marinedepotlive: http://www.marinedepotlive.com/clams.html I did though see that liveaquaria.com is elling, so which would be a better vendor of clams??? Would also like to know about placement (can I place them up high in the rocks, or need to be on sand?) Does it need to be in the sand, or can I keep it up high where it would be closer to light? What about Predation? I have a Gold Coral Banded Shrimp, a cleaner shrimp, several blue leg crabs, Yellow Tang, Royal Gramma Basslet, Clownfish, and a Mothersailfin Blenny. Would it be ok? __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 03:32 PM	#3
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	I did but have not gotten any responses. I want to order today so it can ship out on Monday. So anybody??? __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 03:39 PM	#4
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	I think a derasa would be fine. Squammy, maybe, but most likely ok __________________ NO TANKS!!!

07/23/2006, 03:44 PM	#5
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Would you think its better to just get two Deresa? I really don't want to waste my money$$$, BUT if Squammy can survive under that lighting, then I am ok with it. __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 03:46 PM	#6
RichConley Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bostonian in Chicago going to DC Posts: 9,908	squammy might be fine. I've just never tried it, so I Dont know. I know a derasa will be fine. __________________ NO TANKS!!!

07/23/2006, 03:30 PM	#2
reefnewbie54321 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 1,263	Try the clam forum ... I say yes

07/23/2006, 03:47 PM	#7
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Cool stuff RichConley. Has anyone tried a Squamosa clam under 260w of PC lighting (55g tank)??? Would like to know if they can survive. __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 04:35 PM	#8
faddn1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 33	I have had a squammy under 260 watts in a 75g for about 4 months with no problems. I just recently switched to T5s. I also had mine about 6-8 inches below the water surface. I know have him on the sand.

07/23/2006, 04:54 PM	#9
masterqaz Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oakville Ont. Canada Posts: 551	How deep is your tank? If it is a deeper tank 24'' or more than i'd probably stick with the derasa. squamosas will be fine under PC lighting as long as there is enough of it and they are close enough to the light 18'' or less. They also will do better under Pc lighting if you feed them more often. Personally i'd go with to derasas as derasas can come in some nice colours and they are just generally easyer to keep.

07/23/2006, 05:02 PM	#10
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Aquacultured??? Awesome! thanks Masterqaz. Thats what I needed to hear. The light to the sand is 18" and the tank is a 55g under 260w of PC. NOw, should I get the Aquacultured or not? Liveaquaria offers the aquacultured, whereas I don't think marinedepotlive offers aquacultered. __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 05:50 PM	#11
cristhiam Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Groveland, FL Posts: 3,099	Go for it but check out www.clamsdirect.com they have a very good reputation too. __________________ 2 yellows tail damsels, yellow watchman goby, tail spot blennie, purple pseudocromis, starry blennie, 2 clowns, 1 black clown, mandarine & Yellow tang Current Tank Info: 125 AGA, 3 40W 6500K, 3 110W URI Actinics, running on 2 IceCaps 660, CSS125

07/23/2006, 07:57 PM	#12
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	thank you for that link. I'll call them tomorrow to see if they can ship that same day. thanks again! __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 09:30 PM	#13
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Should I even consider any other clams under 260w of PC lighting in a 55g reef tank? I saw some on clamsdirect.com that I love but do not know if I can sustain them under this lighting. I liked Maxima and Crocea. Can I get these or am I restricted Derasa and Squamosa? __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/23/2006, 11:05 PM	#14
ek9vboi Registered Member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 3,027	From what I was told by an honest LFS emplyee, my tank has 130w of PC over a 29g... which is 18" high. He said to stick with a crocea because the maxima demands more light. either way i am waiting before i get anything. i want to see some coraline agle and i really need to stabilize my calc. levels.

07/23/2006, 11:19 PM	#15
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Is this honest LFS guy knowledgeable about clams? If I were to hear people saying that they kept these clams under 260w PC lighting in a 55g tank, I would feel more comfortable. I know most people say stick to the Derasa and maybe Squamosa, but gosh, maybe, if possible could I get a Crocea as well, or not recommended? I roughly have 5 watts per gallon and about 18" in height. __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/24/2006, 12:42 AM	#16
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Could they out grow my tank in a year? Whats their growth rate? Like I said they would be in a 55g tank. __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.

07/24/2006, 12:57 AM	#17
neotekz Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ottawa, Ontario Posts: 698	i have a squamosa under 192w in my 18in tank, it;s right on the sand about 2 inches up. it's quickly outgrowing my 35g tank so i think u will not have problems with either squamosa or derasas. but if u can get a derasas i think they are nicer than squamosa, i've never been able to find one locally.

07/24/2006, 01:04 AM	#18
chrisbenavides Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Laredo, TX Posts: 1,897	Whic are more colorful? Squamosa or Derasa? __________________ ChrisBenavides Current Tank Info: 55g sw tank, Remora skimmer, powerfilter, 260w PC lights, 50 pounds live rock, 100 pounds sand, etc.... \| Seahorse Tank (3 H. Kuda, 2 Pep.) 30g tall, skimmer, 130w PC lights, HOB Penguin filter, 30 pounds Fiji and Tonga branch l.r., 4 inch sand bed.