drawf seahorse start up questions

puffer21 · 07/27/2006, 02:31 PM

Well i have decided to start a small seahorse tank. This tank will be for drawf seahorse and it will be about 3 gallon. What i was wondering is if i could add live stuff at all. I really dont want any thing fake in my tank. I heard there was something that you could use that would kill the hydorids that kill the seahorse. Were could i get this stuff and does it work? Also what would i need for filters since i heard skimmers wernt really good. Also what is the temp that the seahorse are supposed to be in. Oh and were can i get those brine shrimp tray things. Thanks for any help Puffer21

Big Ying · 07/27/2006, 06:44 PM

Most of this is answered on this recent thread. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=892692

puffer21 · 07/27/2006, 06:49 PM

well it didnt have really any info on live stuff

CodyH · 07/27/2006, 09:50 PM

The 'stuff' to kill hydroids is a substance called fenbendazole, with the popular brand being panacur (best and most easily used in liquid form). It is available at seahorsesource.com under the medicine section. It works very well. The usual treatment is 3 days of 1 dose each day. Search the dwarf forum on seahorse.org not too far back for the dosage. It's been posted there a handful of times.

It will kill all corals with the exception of mushrooms, which will still shrivel and 'hibernate' for lack of better words.
Most snails will die as well, with the exception of nassarius snails, which will also hibernate.
Red lava shrimp survive fenbendazole treatment. So far, the only recorded treatment with these shrimp is the 10% liquid solution.
Most other shrimp do not do so well with it.

It will soak into rock, sand, and reside on the glass for a year to a few years. You can treat any macroalgae and/or seagrasses as well.

For hatching brine, I use the cheap and easy method of using old 2 liter soda bottles. Cut the top cone part off one bottle. cut the bottom off of the other bottle. Place the bottle with the bottom cut off into the other bottle with the open part staying open. Drill a hole in the cap. Place an airline in there and seal the hole with silicone. Instant hatcher.

For a filter, I love the Azoo palm for up to 5g tanks. So it should be perfect for your 3g. Get a cheap, sterile sponge and place it over the intake of the azoo palm so the dwarves and their fry don't get sucked up in the filter.

puffer21 · 07/28/2006, 01:32 PM

ok thanks.

jashort · 07/28/2006, 01:42 PM

Use lots and lots of macro algae. I have done that in my ten gallon which I converted to a seahorse tank, and it has gone beautifully. The macro algae is hard to aquascape though.

puffer21 · 07/28/2006, 01:45 PM

i was thinking if i got some cheto and a piece of dead live rock would that work or do i need to treat it.

nickb · 07/31/2006, 07:22 AM

Anyone have any experience with the Fission Nano-skimmer? Sorry, link is to a Canadian store. Looks like about the right size for a dwarf tank but I wonder about micro-bubbles.

EDIT: SORRY. Search suddenly worked for me and I found a few posts giving very bad reviews: lots of nicro-bubbles and poor skimming

. Looks like I've answered my own question (but, the site wouldn't let me delete this post).

puffer21 · 07/31/2006, 08:08 AM

ya i heard they were bad too.

bohannbj · 08/02/2006, 07:14 PM

Sea horses can go in really anything as long as they can grab on too it and not get stuck. Just stay away for long hair algae, because the younger ones will get tangled. I still think artificial plants are the best for dwarfs.

puffer21 · 08/02/2006, 07:28 PM

Thanks for the info and all the help just to let everyone know i think im going to start a real seahorse tank not that drawf arnt really but i dont know what to call the bigger kind anyways thanks for the help i will though get dwarfs latter on after i try the bigger kind plus the fact that i dont have to make live brine shrimo which i think right know is too hard for me.

07/27/2006, 02:31 PM	#1
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	drawf seahorse start up questions Well i have decided to start a small seahorse tank. This tank will be for drawf seahorse and it will be about 3 gallon. What i was wondering is if i could add live stuff at all. I really dont want any thing fake in my tank. I heard there was something that you could use that would kill the hydorids that kill the seahorse. Were could i get this stuff and does it work? Also what would i need for filters since i heard skimmers wernt really good. Also what is the temp that the seahorse are supposed to be in. Oh and were can i get those brine shrimp tray things. Thanks for any help Puffer21 __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

07/27/2006, 06:44 PM	#2
Big Ying Unconventional Wisdom Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Port Charlotte, Fl Posts: 162	Most of this is answered on this recent thread. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=892692 __________________ Big Ying Current Tank Info: 55 gal reef, 29 gal Fl Keys Biotope, 125 gal fowler, 10 gal Gulf of Mexico Biotope

07/27/2006, 06:49 PM	#3
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	well it didnt have really any info on live stuff __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

07/28/2006, 01:32 PM	#5
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	ok thanks. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

07/28/2006, 01:42 PM	#6
jashort Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Charlotte, nc Posts: 24	Use lots and lots of macro algae. I have done that in my ten gallon which I converted to a seahorse tank, and it has gone beautifully. The macro algae is hard to aquascape though. __________________ Build a man a fire and hes warm for the night. Set a man on fire and hes warm for the rest of his life... Current Tank Info: 10 gal

07/27/2006, 09:50 PM	#4
CodyH Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 55	The 'stuff' to kill hydroids is a substance called fenbendazole, with the popular brand being panacur (best and most easily used in liquid form). It is available at seahorsesource.com under the medicine section. It works very well. The usual treatment is 3 days of 1 dose each day. Search the dwarf forum on seahorse.org not too far back for the dosage. It's been posted there a handful of times. It will kill all corals with the exception of mushrooms, which will still shrivel and 'hibernate' for lack of better words. Most snails will die as well, with the exception of nassarius snails, which will also hibernate. Red lava shrimp survive fenbendazole treatment. So far, the only recorded treatment with these shrimp is the 10% liquid solution. Most other shrimp do not do so well with it. It will soak into rock, sand, and reside on the glass for a year to a few years. You can treat any macroalgae and/or seagrasses as well. For hatching brine, I use the cheap and easy method of using old 2 liter soda bottles. Cut the top cone part off one bottle. cut the bottom off of the other bottle. Place the bottle with the bottom cut off into the other bottle with the open part staying open. Drill a hole in the cap. Place an airline in there and seal the hole with silicone. Instant hatcher. For a filter, I love the Azoo palm for up to 5g tanks. So it should be perfect for your 3g. Get a cheap, sterile sponge and place it over the intake of the azoo palm so the dwarves and their fry don't get sucked up in the filter.

07/28/2006, 01:45 PM	#7
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	i was thinking if i got some cheto and a piece of dead live rock would that work or do i need to treat it. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

07/31/2006, 07:22 AM	#8
nickb Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 678	Anyone have any experience with the Fission Nano-skimmer? Sorry, link is to a Canadian store. Looks like about the right size for a dwarf tank but I wonder about micro-bubbles. EDIT: SORRY. Search suddenly worked for me and I found a few posts giving very bad reviews: lots of nicro-bubbles and poor skimming . Looks like I've answered my own question (but, the site wouldn't let me delete this post).

07/31/2006, 08:08 AM	#9
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	ya i heard they were bad too. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)

08/02/2006, 07:14 PM	#10
bohannbj Gone Fishin' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 166	Dwarfs Sea horses can go in really anything as long as they can grab on too it and not get stuck. Just stay away for long hair algae, because the younger ones will get tangled. I still think artificial plants are the best for dwarfs.

08/02/2006, 07:28 PM	#11
puffer21 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,006	Thanks for the info and all the help just to let everyone know i think im going to start a real seahorse tank not that drawf arnt really but i dont know what to call the bigger kind anyways thanks for the help i will though get dwarfs latter on after i try the bigger kind plus the fact that i dont have to make live brine shrimo which i think right know is too hard for me. __________________ I have never been one for guidelines Current Tank Info: 20g Turtle Tank and 58g OC Ultimate Reef :)