Can rearranging LR make you light headed/nausea?????

Fishy Business · 08/06/2006, 02:58 PM

I just added some new LR today and ofcourse it didnt just exactly "fit" what I already had so I had to try different combonations to make the aquascape look good but most importantly...SECURE. Well, after about an hour of trying moving rocks around...I finally got it looking good and secure. Now that Im done, I feel a little lightheaded and a little bit of nausea. Could this be from the LR or maybe the fish was sending me a signal??? Is this possible??

PS: I also installed a 3/4 watt blue-moon-glow led light. Cant wait till tonight to spy on the little guys.

jerehmy · 08/06/2006, 03:01 PM

I have the same thing happen to me. Its not the fish but a high concentration level.

When you focous so hard and long while hunced next to a tank youre bound to feel some type of exhaustion

NO PAINS NO GAINS

reeferman06 · 08/06/2006, 03:30 PM

no

jerehmy · 08/06/2006, 03:43 PM

what you mean no?

Have you ever spent a few hrs bending over your tank?

bertoni · 08/06/2006, 04:51 PM

Well, if you're worried about being poisoned, you could wear gloves. That's what I do. Otherwise, take it a bit easier!

Fishy Business · 08/06/2006, 05:22 PM

Well, it is true...I still feel disoriented. This has happen before (everytime I add LR and have to reposition everything. I was just asking if this ever happened to anyone else. And also if they knew if it was the fish releasing a chemical, the bacteria on the LR, or a combonation of the 2. Anyway, its worth it.

bertoni · 08/06/2006, 05:46 PM

Corals often release toxins, especially when touched. There might be other allergens, etc, in the tank that bother you as well. I'd try some gloves, but it might just be the exertion.

goda · 08/06/2006, 06:02 PM

its a bactiria that forms when a sponge dies that contains a toxin. called paxydoditrine . easily penetrates skin but isnt lethal except in massive amounts

goda · 08/06/2006, 06:05 PM

:P wonder how many people tried to google that lmao..
its just from being bent over like every one else said. but you really should wear gloves. bristleworms and stuff can HURT

( did it in two post for a reason lol)

Fishy Business · 08/06/2006, 08:43 PM

Thanks guys.

CeeGee · 08/06/2006, 08:50 PM

if you have zoanthids or the nudibranchs that eat zoathids I would say that this is definitely possible.

Also the exertion of being over the tank for extended periods could cause this as well. I get so agitated when trying to work in my small tank that I am gonna stroke out one of these days

Fishy Business · 08/06/2006, 08:58 PM

I honestly think I had some type of reaction from whats in the tank but Im not going to argue with the experts.

Beleive me, I know what exhaustion feels like....check my occupation. Infact, my fingertips where I was pushing on the LR (making them stable) have now turned slightly red and tender.

techreef · 08/07/2006, 06:57 AM

which job is tougher?? LOL!

Not sure how big your tank is, but I know that two of my base rocks in my 90G tank weigh a solid 40+ lbs. each, and combine that weight with the awkward lifting position that it takes to haul them up out of the water, I can definitely see potential for exhaustion. (am hunting mantis shrimp and gorilla crabs right now) take a break every couple minutes for a sip of a cold beverage while you're working.

BrainBandAid · 08/07/2006, 08:20 AM

Hydrogen sulfide can cause effects like that, too, but I'm sure you would have gagged from the stench long before you got dizzy!

bertoni · 08/07/2006, 01:01 PM

I don't doubt that you could have had a reaction to something in the tank. That's why I wear gloves.

Sk8r · 08/07/2006, 01:07 PM

Also, when working with your body bent and arms extended at an unnatural angle, or over your head, which is a lot the same, your circulatory system has to work harder. If you are having dizziness/nausea, just mention this to your doctor the next time you have a checkup...I'm not saying 'heart attack', but rather you could have an intermittent rhythm problem or something of the like---I had to use a monitor to turn up mine: it only showed up at night or at odd moments, and you could have bowled me over with a feather when I found out I had the problem...and it can lead to more serious things if not dealt with. Medical treatment is a simple pill, no big deal if you get it early.

Feenie · 08/07/2006, 02:14 PM

Do you guys ever notice that when you are working on the tank, rearranging the rocks and such, that you don't breath as often as you would if you were jogging? I was feeling the same way until my friend pointed it out to me. She had to remind me that I was not going for a swim, but it was my natural reaction to getting close to water to hold my breath. Maybe I'm just crazy..... ( did I mention I also clean my tank with my goggles and flippers on? jk)

sbgreen · 08/07/2006, 03:11 PM

Bertoni -

what kind of gloves do you wear?

bertoni · 08/07/2006, 06:11 PM

I have 2 pairs of gloves and a pile of the disposables. The heavyweight ones are from LabSafety.com. The disposables I use mostly for feeding my anemone.

spineshank385 · 08/07/2006, 06:20 PM

palytoxin can be absorbed through small cuts and such on your hands.

do you have any palythoa or zoanthid polyps?

Fishy Business · 08/07/2006, 06:41 PM

Nope. Just pulsating Xenia,Green carpet anemone,feather dusters,Bunch of LR, clean up crew, and some fish.

ek9vboi · 08/07/2006, 07:09 PM

I don't have any issue you mentioned. Just really tired when do it, my muscles get tired. lol

Fishy Business · 08/07/2006, 07:33 PM

This was the final result (the near death experience was worth it)

Dont laugh....Im still a newb!! Most importantly, it is all STABLE!!

cwegescheide · 08/07/2006, 07:37 PM

Makes me sick when I take rocks out and I can't get them back the way they were. Very aggrivating

Fishy Business · 08/07/2006, 07:41 PM

TELL ME ABOUT IT!! I actually wasnt in love with my aquascape they way it is now....but it is all secure and I couldnt take it anymore (literally) I was getting sick. So, I will just live with this set up.

08/06/2006, 02:58 PM	#1
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	Can rearranging LR make you light headed/nausea????? I just added some new LR today and ofcourse it didnt just exactly "fit" what I already had so I had to try different combonations to make the aquascape look good but most importantly...SECURE. Well, after about an hour of trying moving rocks around...I finally got it looking good and secure. Now that Im done, I feel a little lightheaded and a little bit of nausea. Could this be from the LR or maybe the fish was sending me a signal??? Is this possible?? PS: I also installed a 3/4 watt blue-moon-glow led light. Cant wait till tonight to spy on the little guys. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/06/2006, 03:01 PM	#2
jerehmy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 511	I have the same thing happen to me. Its not the fish but a high concentration level. When you focous so hard and long while hunced next to a tank youre bound to feel some type of exhaustion NO PAINS NO GAINS __________________ Fish are the best medecine for body and mind Current Tank Info: 55g, 40g, 29gx2, 60g, 10g African Cichlids (Breeders) 40g SW Reef with a 20g sump/refugium 75lbs prime LR Mag 9.5 SCWD and Remora skimmer, 2x96w PC's

08/06/2006, 03:30 PM	#3
reeferman06 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Raleigh/Down by the river side Posts: 440	no __________________ Marrel Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef- 2x 110w Actinic VHO's 2x 175w 14k Metal Halides, Pair of Saddle back Clowns, SPS, Colt Coral, shrooms, LPS, Bubble coral, Hammer, Crocea, Zoanthinds, Xenia, Blasto

08/06/2006, 03:43 PM	#4
jerehmy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 511	what you mean no? Have you ever spent a few hrs bending over your tank? __________________ Fish are the best medecine for body and mind Current Tank Info: 55g, 40g, 29gx2, 60g, 10g African Cichlids (Breeders) 40g SW Reef with a 20g sump/refugium 75lbs prime LR Mag 9.5 SCWD and Remora skimmer, 2x96w PC's

08/06/2006, 04:51 PM	#5
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Well, if you're worried about being poisoned, you could wear gloves. That's what I do. Otherwise, take it a bit easier! __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/06/2006, 05:22 PM	#6
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	Well, it is true...I still feel disoriented. This has happen before (everytime I add LR and have to reposition everything. I was just asking if this ever happened to anyone else. And also if they knew if it was the fish releasing a chemical, the bacteria on the LR, or a combonation of the 2. Anyway, its worth it. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/06/2006, 05:46 PM	#7
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	Corals often release toxins, especially when touched. There might be other allergens, etc, in the tank that bother you as well. I'd try some gloves, but it might just be the exertion. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/06/2006, 06:02 PM	#8
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	its a bactiria that forms when a sponge dies that contains a toxin. called paxydoditrine . easily penetrates skin but isnt lethal except in massive amounts

08/06/2006, 06:05 PM	#9
goda Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fortlauderdale florida area Posts: 1,874	:P wonder how many people tried to google that lmao.. its just from being bent over like every one else said. but you really should wear gloves. bristleworms and stuff can HURT ( did it in two post for a reason lol)

08/06/2006, 08:43 PM	#10
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	Thanks guys. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/06/2006, 08:50 PM	#11
CeeGee Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 3,272	if you have zoanthids or the nudibranchs that eat zoathids I would say that this is definitely possible. Also the exertion of being over the tank for extended periods could cause this as well. I get so agitated when trying to work in my small tank that I am gonna stroke out one of these days __________________ My algae WAS special. Current Tank Info: 75 gallon display, 40 gallon breeder sump, RLSS R6i, ATI Powermodule, Apex, Ecotech MP40's

08/06/2006, 08:58 PM	#12
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	I honestly think I had some type of reaction from whats in the tank but Im not going to argue with the experts. Beleive me, I know what exhaustion feels like....check my occupation. Infact, my fingertips where I was pushing on the LR (making them stable) have now turned slightly red and tender. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/07/2006, 06:57 AM	#13
techreef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 1,046	which job is tougher?? LOL! Not sure how big your tank is, but I know that two of my base rocks in my 90G tank weigh a solid 40+ lbs. each, and combine that weight with the awkward lifting position that it takes to haul them up out of the water, I can definitely see potential for exhaustion. (am hunting mantis shrimp and gorilla crabs right now) take a break every couple minutes for a sip of a cold beverage while you're working.

08/07/2006, 08:20 AM	#14
BrainBandAid Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 169	Hydrogen sulfide can cause effects like that, too, but I'm sure you would have gagged from the stench long before you got dizzy!

08/07/2006, 01:01 PM	#15
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I don't doubt that you could have had a reaction to something in the tank. That's why I wear gloves. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/07/2006, 01:07 PM	#16
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Also, when working with your body bent and arms extended at an unnatural angle, or over your head, which is a lot the same, your circulatory system has to work harder. If you are having dizziness/nausea, just mention this to your doctor the next time you have a checkup...I'm not saying 'heart attack', but rather you could have an intermittent rhythm problem or something of the like---I had to use a monitor to turn up mine: it only showed up at night or at odd moments, and you could have bowled me over with a feather when I found out I had the problem...and it can lead to more serious things if not dealt with. Medical treatment is a simple pill, no big deal if you get it early. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/07/2006, 02:14 PM	#17
Feenie Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Emerald City Posts: 4	hmmmm Do you guys ever notice that when you are working on the tank, rearranging the rocks and such, that you don't breath as often as you would if you were jogging? I was feeling the same way until my friend pointed it out to me. She had to remind me that I was not going for a swim, but it was my natural reaction to getting close to water to hold my breath. Maybe I'm just crazy..... ( did I mention I also clean my tank with my goggles and flippers on? jk) __________________ Feenie Current Tank Info: 30 Gallon Temp. tank... Soon to move into a 46 gallon bowfront tank

08/07/2006, 03:11 PM	#18
sbgreen Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: santa barbara, ca Posts: 284	Bertoni - what kind of gloves do you wear?

08/07/2006, 06:11 PM	#19
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	I have 2 pairs of gloves and a pile of the disposables. The heavyweight ones are from LabSafety.com. The disposables I use mostly for feeding my anemone. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

08/07/2006, 06:20 PM	#20
spineshank385 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 410	palytoxin can be absorbed through small cuts and such on your hands. do you have any palythoa or zoanthid polyps?

08/07/2006, 06:41 PM	#21
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	Nope. Just pulsating Xenia,Green carpet anemone,feather dusters,Bunch of LR, clean up crew, and some fish. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/07/2006, 07:09 PM	#22
ek9vboi Registered Member. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 3,027	I don't have any issue you mentioned. Just really tired when do it, my muscles get tired. lol

08/07/2006, 07:33 PM	#23
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	This was the final result (the near death experience was worth it) Dont laugh....Im still a newb!! Most importantly, it is all STABLE!! __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.

08/07/2006, 07:37 PM	#24
cwegescheide YOU have been ignored! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 5,231	Makes me sick when I take rocks out and I can't get them back the way they were. Very aggrivating

08/07/2006, 07:41 PM	#25
Fishy Business Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 537	TELL ME ABOUT IT!! I actually wasnt in love with my aquascape they way it is now....but it is all secure and I couldnt take it anymore (literally) I was getting sick. So, I will just live with this set up. __________________ Here to pick your brain and pick-pocket myself at the same time.